Windows 10 Pro sales

[EdInk]

Purchased Windows 10 pro from this company based in the UK and thought to share

[Paralectic]

That's shady

[Domifi]

That's OEM software. In some countries it's illegal to buy OEM software without the correspondig hardware. I Germany and Great Britain it's not in the US it is (I think). I bought Windows 7 Ultimate for 15€.

[Domifi]

3 minutes ago, Paralectic said:

That's shady

It's not, it's just OEM software

[Ophidio]

12 minutes ago, Domifi said:

That's OEM software. In some countries it's illegal to buy OEM software without the correspondig hardware. I Germany and Great Britain it's not in the US it is (I think). I bought Windows 7 Ultimate for 15€.

I dont think it's illegal to buy OEM Software in the US. If it is I'm screwed because I've purchased both Windows 7 and 8.1 OEM and I've never even left this stupid country. 

[Domifi]

Just now, Ophidio said:

I dont think it's illegal to buy OEM Software in the US. If it is I'm screwed because I've purchased both Windows 7 and 8.1 OEM and I've never even left this stupid country. 

That's just what I thought, I could be wrong of course

[EdInk]

19 minutes ago, Paralectic said:

That's shady

Nothing shady, it's a registered UK company, I ve purchased and activated it. If you are in doubt, then perhaps it will be wiser to contact them to confirm and have proof in writing than jump to conclusions. a childish approach.

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Microsoft's EULA for the OEM versions of Windows is very clear on this :

 

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The software is licensed, not sold. Under this agreement, we grant you the right to install and run one copy only on the computer with which you acquired the software (the licensed computer), for use by one person at a time, but only if you comply with all the terms of this agreement.

Basically this means you may only use an OEM version if it came with the PC.  Shops and professional PC builders may put OEM Windows installations on the customers' PCs.  However as a consumer you may not build your own PC and then install an OEM version on it, you need to get the retail version. 

 

By purchasing and using an OEM key yourself and installing it, you are violating the EULA (which you explicitly agreed to during the installation).  So basically it's illegal to purchase and use an OEM key. 

You will be able to activate, but legally speaking you are running a pirated copy of Windows.

 

 

 

EDIT : What the quack did they do to the forum?  This new quote method is so messed up it's not even funny.

[Domifi]

5 minutes ago, Captain Chaos said:

Microsoft's EULA for the OEM versions of Windows is very clear on this :

 

Basically this means you may only use an OEM version if it came with the PC.  Shops and professional PC builders may put OEM Windows installations on the customers' PCs.  However as a consumer you may not build your own PC and then install an OEM version on it. 

 

By purchasing and using an OEM key yourself, you are violating the EULA (which you explicitly agreed to during the installation).  So technically it's illegal to purchase and use an OEM key.  You will be able to activate, but legally speaking you are running a pirated copy of Windows.

 

 

 

EDIT : What the quack did they do to the forum?  This new quote method is so messed up it's not even funny.

But again, that depends on the country

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12 minutes ago, Domifi said:

But again, that depends on the country

By clicking "I agree", you enter a legal agreement.  By not living up to the terms of that agreement, you are in breach of the EULA and hence your Windows installation isn't valid.  That automatically means it's pirated.  I'm not aware of any country where piracy is legal

[Domifi]

5 minutes ago, Captain Chaos said:

By clicking "I agree", you enter the legal equivalent of a contract.  By not living up to the terms of that agreement, you are in breach of said contract and hence your Windows installation isn't valid.  I don't know of any country where contracts have no legal value.

The German Bundesgerichtshof (federal court) sentenced on the 6th of July 2000 that the sale of "unbundled" OEM software (that means without the corresponding hardware) is legal (Source: BGH ZR244/97 http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bgh&Art=en&nr=22588&anz=25&pos=9&Frame=4&.pdf )

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Just skimmed through it (my German is just good enough).  Interesting read.  I'm pretty sure the current EULA covers that part, something which the old one most likely didn't.  I've briefly been looking for a German Windows OEM EULA to see if it's different from the rest of the world, but I'm having no luck finding it.