i5 v i7 ?

[ionutenciu]

Just for gaming !!! What do you guys think I should get if I just want to use this CPU ONLY for gaming?

 

[Ringtail Jax]

i5

[DarkRift5]

If you're only gaming, the i5 will work fine. Just get a higher-end newer one like a 6600.

[Shakaza]

For gaming, at this current point in time, there is little to no benefit to using an i7 over an i5 aside from the higher clock speeds out of the box for the i7-4790k and the 6700k, but that can quickly be negated by overclocking the i5 if you get an unlocked one, but even that is unnecessary to get a good gaming experience. A lot of people do fine with just an i5-4460 or similar.

[Nonco]

i5 is all you really need for just gaming

[vanished]

Can you please clarify if you want to use the CPU (and maybe a video card) to just play games and nothing else, or if you mean that you want to game using only the CPU (and no video card)?

[ionutenciu]

Can you please clarify if you want to use the CPU (and maybe a video card) to just play games and nothing else, or if you mean that you want to game using only the CPU (and no video card)?

 

For the graphics card i'm going with a msi r9 390... but i wanted to know what cpu should i buy i was leaning for the 4790k but i don't know if i would just throw my money away if I just use it to play games

[vanished]

For the graphics card i'm going with a msi r9 390... but i wanted to know what cpu should i buy i was leaning for the 4790k but i don't know if i would just throw my money away if I just use it to play games

Ah ok (the joys of English eh? )

 

Traditional wisdom has been that games won't use more than 4 threads (so get the i5), but there have been tests suggesting otherwise in certain cases, and the market is always changing; it's been "4 threads FTW" for a while now and you never know when 6 or 8 will start being useful.

 

I should say though that when it comes to more threads, that video suggests that to get the benefit (if there is any) you need an actual 8 core processor; a 4 with HT (ie. the i7) won't likely be any better than the i5

[ionutenciu]

Ah ok (the joys of English eh? )

 

Traditional wisdom has been that games won't use more than 4 threads (so get the i5), but there have been tests suggesting otherwise in certain cases, and the market is always changing; it's been "4 threads FTW" for a while now and you never know when 6 or 8 will start being useful.

 

I should say though that when it comes to more threads, that video suggests that to get the benefit (if there is any) you need an actual 8 core processor; a 4 with HT (ie. the i7) won't likely be any better than the i5

 

Inglish iz hard )

 

Building a PC is harder than I taught there are too many factors to consider... ). Well I wanted to go with the i7 because in my mind I wanted to use the same CPU for at least 3-4 years , while changing the graphics card after 1-2 years... what do you think?

[vanished]

Inglish iz hard )

 

Building a PC is harder than I taught there are too many factors to consider... ). Well I wanted to go with the i7 because in my mind I wanted to use the same CPU for at least 3-4 years , while changing the graphics card after 1-2 years... what do you think?

Those sound like reasonable timelines more or less.  I look at it this way: is the i5 going to do as well in every current game?  Yeah, I believe so.  Will that trend continue?  Maybe, but no one knows.  I kind of hope 2 or 3 years from now tops we will start to see a benefit to i7's and above, but it might not happen.

 

I've got an i7 because I do more than just games, and in hindsight, I would have actually been much better off with an overclocked 6 or 8 core, but A ) that's a lot more expensive, and B ) If I had had the luck with a 6 or 8 core that I did with my i7, I would be really mad since overclocking an i7 is nice, but overclocking a 6 or 8 core is essential if you want to match per core performance.

 

anyways, I would say if an extra $100 is worth the piece of mind, go with the i7, but Linus always says build what gets you what you need now, so if you follow that, get the i5.

[ionutenciu]

Those sound like reasonable timelines more or less.  I look at it this way: is the i5 going to do as well in every current game?  Yeah, I believe so.  Will that trend continue?  Maybe, but no one knows.  I kind of hope 2 or 3 years from now tops we will start to see a benefit to i7's and above, but it might not happen.

 

I've got an i7 because I do more than just games, and in hindsight, I would have actually been much better off with an overclocked 6 or 8 core, but A ) that's a lot more expensive, and B ) If I had had the luck with a 6 or 8 core that I did with my i7, I would be really mad since overclocking an i7 is nice, but overclocking a 6 or 8 core is essential if you want to match per core performance.

 

anyways, I would say if an extra $100 is worth the piece of mind, go with the i7, but Linus always says build what gets you what you need now, so if you follow that, get the i5.

 

You my friend have a way to preach ) if it's not too much to ask at this hour (in romania it's 6 AM almost) what i5 would you recomend ?

[vanished]

You my friend have a way to preach ) if it's not too much to ask at this hour (in romania it's 6 AM almost) what i5 would you recomend ?

heh, now that's another whole debate.  you could go with the new Skylake 6600 or an older but still excellent 4690.  It depends on the pricing in your country.  I know here the Z170 stuff is ludicrous compared to Z97 but in other places it's worth the upgrade.  Then there is the debate of over clocking.  If you want to, you will need the K series of whatever you pick.

 

You could also go for a not-top-of-its-class i5 liek the 4460; I know some have a better price/performance ratio, but I always like going the highest class in the line

[Redicat]

I7 has 4 cores & 4 "fake" cores known as threads 2 threads = 1 "fake" core I7 has 8 threads the I5 however only got 4 threads means 2 logical "fake" cores" instead of 4  for the I7

 

Means 

 

I7 has 8 cores (with logical cores)

I5 only has 6 cores (with logical cores) 

 

These are indeed only needed for videoediting YouTube stuff recording whatever...

 

 

These are common I7's & I5's (8 threads) (4 threads) 

[ionutenciu]

heh, now that's another whole debate.  you could go with the new Skylake 6600 or an older but still excellent 4690.  It depends on the pricing in your country.  I know here the Z170 stuff is ludicrous compared to Z97 but in other places it's worth the upgrade.  Then there is the debate of over clocking.  If you want to, you will need the K series of whatever you pick.

 

You could also go for a not-top-of-its-class i5 liek the 4460; I know some have a better price/performance ratio, but I always like going the highest class in the line

well I'm going for an ASUS z97 mother board and I am going to choose a K series... is the new Skylake really worth it or could I just buy the 4690k?

[App4that]

Responses like theses are why I bought an i5, now the game I built my PC to run requires an i7. Go with the i7 f you have the budget.

[vanished]

I7 has 4 cores & 4 "fake" cores known as threads 2 threads = 1 "fake" core I7 has 8 threads the I5 however only got 4 threads means 2 logical "fake" cores" instead of 4  for the I7

 

Means 

 

I7 has 8 cores (with logical cores)

I5 only has 6 cores (with logical cores) 

 

These are indeed only needed for videoediting YouTube stuff recording whatever...

 

 

These are common I7's & I5's (8 threads) (4 threads) 

 

What are you talking about?  the i7 has 4 physical cores that can each run 2 threads (2 logical cores per physical).  the i5 has 4 physical cores that each to one thread (1 logical core per physical).  i5s do not have 6 cores and do not have 2 logical cores

[ionutenciu]

I7 has 4 cores & 4 "fake" cores known as threads 2 threads = 1 "fake" core I7 has 8 threads the I5 however only got 4 threads means 2 logical "fake" cores" instead of 4  for the I7

 

Means 

 

I7 has 8 cores (with logical cores)

I5 only has 6 cores (with logical cores) 

 

These are indeed only needed for videoediting YouTube stuff recording whatever...

 

 

These are common I7's & I5's (8 threads) (4 threads) 

soooo.... what you're trying to say is? :-s

[ionutenciu]

Responses like theses are why I bought an i5, now the game I built my PC to run requires an i7. Go with the i7 f you have the budget.

and what game is that?

[vanished]

well I'm going for an ASUS z97 mother board and I am going to choose a K series... is the new Skylake really worth it or could I just buy the 4690k?

Skylake is more powerful and has more consistency between chips which is good for not "losing the silicon lottery", but depending on your country it might or might not be really expensive by comparison.  If it's like $100 more, then it's definitely not worth it.

[vanished]

and what game is that?

 

 

Responses like theses are why I bought an i5, now the game I built my PC to run requires an i7. Go with the i7 f you have the budget.

 

Is this in response to Fallout 4?  Those specs are a joke and we all know it, let's wait for some real benchmarks before judging

[App4that]

and what game is that?

Fallout 4 has a 4790K i7 CPU listed in the system requirements. I played the Battlefront beta and I was able to play, but my CPU temps were higher than when stress testing using AIDA64 or Intel XTU. If I had a time machine, I'd have a 4790K.

[App4that]

Is this in response to Fallout 4?  Those specs are a joke and we all know it, let's wait for some real benchmarks before judging

We're here to offer experience, not indoctrinate.

[vanished]

Fallout 4 has a 4790K i7 CPU listed in the system requirements. I played the Battlefront beta and I was able to play, but my CPU temps were higher than when stress testing using AIDA64 or Intel XTU. If I had a time machine, I'd have a 4790K.

 

Well, maybe the tides are changing.  I said they probably would, I just didn't expect it to be happening under my nose as I write

[App4that]

Well, maybe the tides are changing.  I said they probably would, I just didn't expect it to be happening under my nose as I write

I was pissed when the system requirements were released for Fallout 4. I was utterly shocked by my CPU straining to run Battlefront. I'm running at 4.6GHz too.

 

My 290, I had it on the stock clock and it's temps were below that of running Valley. Hate to use the word, but that's a bottleneck.

[vanished]

I was pissed when the system requirements were released for Fallout 4. I was utterly shocked by my CPU straining to run Battlefront. I'm running at 4.6GHz too.

wow... it might be time to change the long-held wisdom then once and for all... I know it wasn't that long ago, but maybe that video I linked needs to be updated again Luke