Thunderbolt displays?

[firatt]

Why manufacturers don't put high end gpus into thunderbolt monitors? For gaming or work purposes?

[alexhelvetica]

Monitors or Graphics Cards don't Use Thunderbolt.

They Use DP and Thunderbolt uses the DP connector.

DP and Thunderbolt are different, You can use ThunderBolt as DP though. 

[firatt]

I meant like apple thunderbolt monitor; they connect your computer via thunderbolt cable and you have all other data going through one cable. something like this: 

 

[Glenwing]

I meant like apple thunderbolt monitor; they connect your computer via thunderbolt cable and you have all other data going through one cable. something like this: 

 

 

You would only be able to use it with integrated graphics, because Thunderbolt is very difficult to integrate with swappable GPUs. So, graphics cards don't have Thunderbolt outputs, only motherboards.

[Naeaes]

PC side of things would never replace a display connector with something that isn't one. That's not how we roll, baby. Thunderbolt also requires some licensing (fees and extra validation = more cost) that for example USB 3.1 type-C doesn't.

[Glenwing]

PC side of things would never replace a display connector with something that isn't one. That's not how we roll, baby. Thunderbolt also requires some licensing (fees and extra validation = more cost) that for example USB 3.1 type-C doesn't.

 

USB Consortium charges royalties too.

[Naeaes]

USB Consortium charges royalties too.

They only charge non-USB-IF members. So if you or me wanted to use the it, then yes. But if Asus, Dell, Acer and so on wanted to, then no. I've even heard but can't verify that if you use the connector but not the logo, it's free.

[gergy008]

This is a good question, I don't think all you people understand the question properly - These people specifically:

 

Monitors or Graphics Cards don't Use Thunderbolt.

They Use DP and Thunderbolt uses the DP connector.

DP and Thunderbolt are different, You can use ThunderBolt as DP though. 

 

You would only be able to use it with integrated graphics, because Thunderbolt is very difficult to integrate with swappable GPUs. So, graphics cards don't have Thunderbolt outputs, only motherboards.

 

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He's asking why don't manufacturers release monitors with built-in graphics cards which can connect with a single Thunderbolt/USB-C cable.

 

Thunderbolt is capable of handling both video and data, but the video isn't required (Unless it's a laptop and you still want to use the laptop's' screen), because the GPU is inside the monitor and the video signal would be internal to that. So a thunderbolt monitor with a built in GPU.

 

That way, you could come home with your laptop, hook it up with a thunderbolt cable and off you go - Upgraded GPU *click* as fast as that. With that, the monitor's GPU can just send a display port signal back through the cable for the monitor on the laptop.

[Glenwing]

This is a good question, I don't think all you people understand the question properly - These people specifically:

 

 

 

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He's asking why don't manufacturers release monitors with built-in graphics cards which can connect with a single Thunderbolt/USB-C cable.

 

Thunderbolt is capable of handling both video and data, but the video isn't required (Unless it's a laptop and you still want to use the laptop's' screen), because the GPU is inside the monitor and the video signal would be internal to that. So a thunderbolt monitor with a built in GPU.

 

That way, you could come home with your laptop, hook it up with a thunderbolt cable and off you go - Upgraded GPU *click* as fast as that. With that, the monitor's GPU can just send a display port signal back through the cable for the monitor on the laptop.

 

So, an external GPU and monitor combined into one unit?

[gergy008]

So, an external GPU and monitor combined into one unit?

 

Yes, pretty much! My guess is that it wouldn't work in it's current state but would potentially work if the underlying architecture was changed to allow it, I don't it would be that hard and I certainly think it's possible.

[Glenwing]

Yes, pretty much! My guess is that it wouldn't work in it's current state but would potentially work if the underlying architecture was changed to allow it, I don't it would be that hard and I certainly think it's possible.

 

But his example the Apple Thunderbolt display doesn't have a GPU in it either, so I'm confused... I thought he was asking why they don't put Thunderbolt on high-end GPUs.

[gergy008]

But his example the Apple Thunderbolt display doesn't have a GPU in it either, so I'm confused... I thought he was asking why they don't put Thunderbolt on high-end GPUs.

 

He's pretty much asking why Apple didn't put a GPU in it, I think.

[Dimi3os]

I once saw an apple macbook pro hooked up to an external nvidia graphics card via thunderbolt, it blew my mind. Feel free to dig up that post on /r/pcmasterrace

Edit: this isn't the original post I saw but it discusses the same thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/32shes/my_external_gpu_setup_on_my_macbook_pro_details/