Building a PC - need help.

[Totalimus]

Hello, so I'm about to buy a new PC and could really use your help.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hpQhpg

 

Potentional rig:

CPU: i7-4790k

GPU: GTX 980 Ti (x2)

MOBO: Gigabyte z97X-Gaming 3 or Maximus Vii Hero (could someone please explain why maximus is so much better that the gaming one? )

PSU: Corsair RM850i 80+ Gold (from what I know, this is a really high quality PSU, will it be able to power my PC?)

HDD: 1TB WD Blue

RAM: 8GB Kingston Savage 1600MHz

Case: Fractal Design R5

[ThatGuyNamedKasper]

It would be easier for everyone else if you put the parts in pcpartpicker. Do that next time!  

 

 

The power supply should handle but I'm no power expert thingy majig so yeah, everything else seems good. 

 

 

 

EDIT: Also the motherboards I would just choose the asus as its reliable but so is gigabyte, I would choose which one is cheaper, which one has better features and ect .

[Totalimus]

It would be easier for everyone else if you put the parts in pcpartpicker. Do that next time!  

 

 

The power supply should handle but I'm no power expert thingy majig so yeah, everything else seems good. 

 

 

 

EDIT: Also the motherboards I would just choose the asus as its reliable but so is gigabyte, I would choose which one is cheaper, which one has better features and ect .

Well that's the thing, I don't know what features I have to check since I'm so new to building PC's (this is gonna be my first build).

About the partpicker, yes, didn't think about it - added a link.

[Sylar1155]

Hello, so I'm about to buy a new PC and could really use your help.

 

Potentional rig:

CPU: i7-4790k

GPU: GTX 980 Ti (x2)

MOBO: Gigabyte z97X-Gaming 3 or Maximus Vii Hero (could someone please explain why maximus is so much better that the gaming one? )

PSU: Corsair RM850i 80+ Gold (from what I know, this is a really high quality PSU, will it be able to power my PC?)

HDD: 1TB WD Blue

RAM: 8GB Kingston Savage 1600MHz

Case: Fractal Design R5

Maybe get a PSU with a little higher wattage, 850 should handle it but nothing wrong with a little headroom..

 

Throw in an SSD for your games/OS too!

[Totalimus]

Maybe get a PSU with a little higher wattage, 850 should handle it but nothing wrong with a little headroom..

 

Throw in an SSD for your games/OS too!

What about the PSU itself? Is it good, reliable? I see it's high on the PSU tier list but there are like no reviews about this psu whatsoever.

On pcpartpicker it says the recommended wattage is 697 - so if I do a little bit of CPU overclocking, let's say from 4.0 to 4.6 (maximum, probably gonna go only 4.4 though just to be safe). So wouldn't that be enough?

[ind3x]

If i recall correctly, the gaming 3 board doesn't support SLI? Plz doublecheck this. Otherwise you're good.

Usually the price premium for high end motherboards only give you a couple of extra features like dualbios, more fan headers, more sata ports, a better look of the board.

[bpw87]

Hello, so I'm about to buy a new PC and could really use your help.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hpQhpg

 

Potentional rig:

CPU: i7-4790k

GPU: GTX 980 Ti (x2)

MOBO: Gigabyte z97X-Gaming 3 or Maximus Vii Hero (could someone please explain why maximus is so much better that the gaming one? )

PSU: Corsair RM850i 80+ Gold (from what I know, this is a really high quality PSU, will it be able to power my PC?)

HDD: 1TB WD Blue

RAM: 8GB Kingston Savage 1600MHz

Case: Fractal Design R5

Look at an EVGA Supernova G2 850w if you want a really good quality PSU. The normal Corsair RM PSU are pretty bad but I'm not 100% sure with the RMi series. Either way Corsair PSUs are overpriced and not the best quality unless you're looking at the HX and AX series

[bpw87]

If i recall correctly, the gaming 3 board doesn't support SLI? Plz doublecheck this. Otherwise you're good.

Usually the price premium for high end motherboards only give you a couple of extra features like dualbios, more fan headers, more sata ports, a better look of the board.

It definitely does support SLI

[Totalimus]

If i recall correctly, the gaming 3 board doesn't support SLI? Plz doublecheck this. Otherwise you're good.

Usually the price premium for high end motherboards only give you a couple of extra features like dualbios, more fan headers, more sata ports, a better look of the board.

It does support SLI.

 

Look at an EVGA Supernova G2 850w if you want a really good quality PSU. The normal Corsair RM PSU are pretty bad but I'm not 100% sure with the RMi series. Either way Corsair PSUs are overpriced and not the best quality unless you're looking at the HX and AX series

In my country only 1 internet shop has EVGA Supernova G2 850w but it's a pretty unreliable shop (has a lot of complaigns from people about their warranty service and products themselves).

Well this tier list shows that RM series was pretty high (Tier 2a) - http://i.imgur.com/tgrbCnr.jpg - and from what I know, the RMi series made it go to tier 1.

[bpw87]

Hello, so I'm about to buy a new PC and could really use your help.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hpQhpg

 

Potentional rig:

CPU: i7-4790k

GPU: GTX 980 Ti (x2)

MOBO: Gigabyte z97X-Gaming 3 or Maximus Vii Hero (could someone please explain why maximus is so much better that the gaming one? )

PSU: Corsair RM850i 80+ Gold (from what I know, this is a really high quality PSU, will it be able to power my PC?)

HDD: 1TB WD Blue

RAM: 8GB Kingston Savage 1600MHz

Case: Fractal Design R5

You may also want to look at getting two 4GB sticks of ram instead of one 8GB. And throw an SSD in there like a Samsung 250GB 850 Evo.

 

Also why two 980ti are you going 4k?

[Totalimus]

You may also want to look at getting two 4GB sticks of ram instead of one 8GB. And throw an SSD in there like a Samsung 250GB 850 Evo.

 

Also why two 980ti are you going 4k?

The reason why I'm buying only one 8gb stick is because I'm planning to ugprade it to 16GB in the future (if I decide to youtube or stream), from what I know, one stick is 10-15% less effiecent than two which is honestly fine with me. And I want to have that option available (upgrade even to 32GB RAM) in the future.

 

Well I'm currently buying only one card, but after a few years I'll probably get a second just to get higher fps while playing 1080p (since I don't want to get less than 60fps on any game while playing at ultra, 1080p). And that's the reason why I want to get a PSU with enough wattage so I wouldn't need to upgrade it in the future).

[bpw87]

In my country only 1 internet shop has EVGA Supernova G2 850w but it's a pretty unreliable shop (has a lot of complaigns from people about their warranty service and products themselves).

Well this tier list shows that RM series was pretty high (Tier 2a) - http://i.imgur.com/tgrbCnr.jpg - and from what I know, the RMi series made it go to tier 1.

If it gets hot where you live stay away from the RM PSUs as they are only rated for use up to 35c ambient temp. Most cases will hit this under light load. The RM is also in the tier 3 PSUs as well so I don't know why they are ranked twice, but I can guarantee they aren't teir 2 worthy.

 

Look at Coolermaster V series, XFX Pro, Super Flower Leadex Gold, Seasonic m12ii.

[Sylar1155]

What about the PSU itself? Is it good, reliable? I see it's high on the PSU tier list but there are like no reviews about this psu whatsoever.

On pcpartpicker it says the recommended wattage is 697 - so if I do a little bit of CPU overclocking, let's say from 4.0 to 4.6 (maximum, probably gonna go only 4.4 though just to be safe). So wouldn't that be enough?

The PSU is easily very reliable, If you get a PSU with more wattage you can upgrade your hardware without having to worry about wattage, i have an 850W PSU, and i only use about 650W's, i leave headroom incase i buy another GPU or something like that.

[GoldForest]

What's your budget limit?

[bpw87]

The reason why I'm buying only one 8gb stick is because I'm planning to ugprade it to 16GB in the future (if I decide to youtube or stream), from what I know, one stick is 10-15% less effiecent than two which is honestly fine with me. And I want to have that option available (upgrade even to 32GB RAM) in the future.

 

Well I'm currently buying only one card, but after a few years I'll probably get a second just to get higher fps while playing 1080p (since I don't want to get less than 60fps on any game while playing at ultra, 1080p). And that's the reason why I want to get a PSU with enough wattage so I wouldn't need to upgrade it in the future).

That is fair enough then and you should find one 980ti should play everything maxed out at 1080p for a little while yet. I'm planning on running a 980ti on an Acer Predator 3440x1440p 100hz and it should run fine with most games using gsync.

[bpw87]

The PSU is easily very reliable, If you get a PSU with more wattage you can upgrade your hardware without having to worry about wattage, i have an 850W PSU, and i only use about 650W's, i leave headroom incase i buy another GPU or something like that.

More wattage and rating mean nothing to reliability and quality of the parts used. Always look at the OEM not the brand.

 

Corsair have a habit of using dodgy OEMs for there cheaper ranges of PSUs and then putting a big fat price tag on it and everyone thinks it's good cause it'd from Corsair.

[bpw87]

Hello, so I'm about to buy a new PC and could really use your help.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hpQhpg

 

Potentional rig:

CPU: i7-4790k

GPU: GTX 980 Ti (x2)

MOBO: Gigabyte z97X-Gaming 3 or Maximus Vii Hero (could someone please explain why maximus is so much better that the gaming one? )

PSU: Corsair RM850i 80+ Gold (from what I know, this is a really high quality PSU, will it be able to power my PC?)

HDD: 1TB WD Blue

RAM: 8GB Kingston Savage 1600MHz

Case: Fractal Design R5

I had a bit of a search around and while the RMi is made by the same company as the original RM, CWT. They have used all Japanese caps, build quality is much better then the RM, seven year warranty and also rated at 40c under continuous load. It will be a decent PSU but they are still overpriced.

[Sylar1155]

More wattage and rating mean nothing to reliability and quality of the parts used. Always look at the OEM not the brand.

 

Corsair have a habit of using dodgy OEMs for there cheaper ranges of PSUs and then putting a big fat price tag on it and everyone thinks it's good cause it'd from Corsair.

The PSU the OP is talking about is a 80+ Gold PSU, with that rating i'd day its pretty reliable, I never really knew that about Corsair.. i dont buy from them often, Only a watercooler in my rig from them.. My PSU is EVGA and i found it very reliable so far.

[Totalimus]

I had a bit of a search around and while the RMi is made by the same company as the original RM, CWT. They have used all Japanese caps, build quality is much better then the RM, seven year warranty and also rated at 40c under continuous load. It will be a decent PSU but they are still overpriced.

In the summer it gets pretty hot in my room (it's usually up to 31 celcius outside in the summer at max, rarely more than that).

Good to hear it's not a bad psu.

 

However, the prices are about the same (750W CM model costs as same as the 750W RMi and 850W CM model costs 25$ than the 850W RMi model).

+ I'm kinda not sure how long cables will I need for good cable management in my Fractal Design R5 case (RMi series have longer ones).

[GoldForest]

In the summer it gets pretty hot in my room (it's usually up to 31 celcius outside in the summer at max, rarely more than that).

Good to hear it's not a bad psu.

 

However, the prices are about the same (750W CM model costs as same as the 750W RMi and 850W CM model costs 25$ than the 850W RMi model).

+ I'm kinda not sure how long cables will I need for good cable management in my Fractal Design R5 case (RMi series have longer ones).

 

What's your budget and how much over your budget are you willing to go?

[Totalimus]

What's your budget and how much over your budget are you willing to go?

I don't know, just tell me the PSU's you think I should consider buying.

[bpw87]

The PSU the OP is talking about is a 80+ Gold PSU, with that rating i'd day its pretty reliable, I never really knew that about Corsair.. i dont buy from them often, Only a watercooler in my rig from them.. My PSU is EVGA and i found it very reliable so far.

80+ gold or any of those ratings silver, platinum or whatever mean nothing to the quality of the parts and overall design. The 80+ rating is only to show how efficient the power supply is, watts drawn at the wall vs watts used by the system under certain loads, being 20%, 50% and 100%. A lot of PSUs will make these grades these days as 80% efficiency is a fairly low standard. The difference can be factors like the rail type, solder, insulation, capacitors, chokes, temp ratings, cooling and many other important factors. You also need to consider how will it delivers the power and deal with ripple suppression, how close the voltages are to the to the correct outputs needed, how the unit deals with extended periods of full load and extreme heat. Do not believe the 80+ rating gives you any indication of any of the points I have stated, especially if you factor time into it. That PSU might be good now but some cheap parts and bad assembly might mean it's a fire hazard in a years time or tomorrow.

[Totalimus]

80+ gold or any of those ratings silver, platinum or whatever mean nothing to the quality of the parts and overall design. The 80+ rating is only to show how efficient the power supply is, watts drawn at the wall vs watts used by the system under certain loads, being 20%, 50% and 100%. A lot of PSUs will make these grades these days as 80% efficiency is a fairly low standard. The difference can be factors like the rail type, solder, insulation, capacitors, chokes, temp ratings, cooling and many other important factors. You also need to consider how will it delivers the power and deal with ripple suppression, how close the voltages are to the to the correct outputs needed, how the unit deals with extended periods of full load and extreme heat. Do not believe the 80+ rating gives you any indication of any of the points I have stated, especially if you factor time into it. That PSU might be good now but some cheap parts and bad assembly might mean it's a fire hazard in a years time or tomorrow.

 

Alright, so what I have decided is to get a 750W PSU, since I highly doubt that I'll get a second 980 Ti card faster than 2-3 years from now. And in those 2-3 years a new powerful card will be already out and it will be probably more effiecent for me to sell my 980 Ti card, add my own funds and buy the more powerful one while not having the need to upgrade my PSU.

As I mentioned before, Cooler Master V Series 750W power supply is in the same price range as Corsair RM750i, so I'm really thinking to buy the CM one.

However, I have some questions about the CM power supply:

1. If I get a semi-modular one, that means that the definetly needed cables for PC (like the cable for motherboard, cpu, 1 gpu) will be non-removable and optional cables will be modular, right? Since I hope there won't be any unatachable cables which I am not even gonna use.

2. Are the cables even long enough for me to get a good cable management in my Fractal Design R5 case?