First pc gaming build

[Giggidy25]

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Gigidy/saved/3wctt6

Max budget right now want to know what you guys think. Please give input! Xeon because of hyperthreading, will get cpu cooler later, will also upgrade case later on but j just need something very cheap to hold everything together. If you can find something cheaper( that includes the shipping price) let me know.

Please give your imput!!

[rtpb5642]

Unless ur rendering go Z97 with 4690k i5

[JalenKoneko]

Swap the Corsair builder for a EVGA 600w 80+ bronze PSU The Corsair builders can be kind of unreliable, Also throw in a ssd the extra cost justifys the performance 120gb for OS and a couple games and if you have a decent game library go for a 250gb ssd,Samsung 850 evos are on a pretty good deal right now too. Besides that the rest looks fine

 

[Panzer003]

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Gigidy/saved/3wctt6

Max budget right now want to know what you guys think. Please give input! Xeon because of hyperthreading, will get cpu cooler later, will also upgrade case later on but j just need something very cheap to hold everything together. If you can find something cheaper( that includes the shipping price) let me know.

Please give your imput!!

Just get a I5 and use the money you save for a 120gb SSD

[Giggidy25]

Just get a I5 and use the money you save for a 120gb SSD

The i5 is only like 10 dollars cheaper so how wood i be saving money

[Giggidy25]

Thermaltake SMART 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

Would this be better?

Swap the Corsair builder for a EVGA 600w 80+ bronze PSU The Corsair builders can be kind of unreliable, Also throw in a ssd the extra cost justifys the performance 120gb for OS and a couple games and if you have a decent game library go for a 250gb ssd,Samsung 850 evos are on a pretty good deal right now too. Besides that the rest looks fine

[Thunder Down Under]

Ok I put together a list for you and first off your OS drive is a kingston SSD NOW and regardless of what some people might tell you they are not bad SSD's. As far as the GPU I chose the PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ because it has better cooling it's cheaper and PowerColor has great customer support from my experience and many others I've talked to. I chose the Corsair 200r as your case because it's the best all around cheap case you can get and for the USB3 which the motherboard I chose supports. I changed your PSU to a evga 600b because it's more reliable. Lastly the processor is a i5 4690. If you have any question let me know.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H9MMNG

[Giggidy25]

Ok I put together a list for you and first off your OS drive is a kingston SSD NOW and regardless of what some people might tell you they are not bad SSD's. As far as the GPU I chose the PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ because it has better cooling it's cheaper and PowerColor has great customer support from my experience and many others I've talked to. I chose the Corsair 200r as your case because it's the best all around cheap case you can get and for the USB3 which the motherboard I chose supports. I changed your PSU to a evga 600b because it's more reliable. Lastly the processor is a i5 4690. If you have any question let me know.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H9MMNG

Thanks! I do like the build but I also have a couple questions. Please don't take this as a rant I am sincerely asking questions that I don't know. Thanks again!

For the cpu: why that certain one? I was looking forward to the hyperthreading of the xeon for things like streaming, and it seemed to be a good price for the processor.

Next the mobo: how is this better than the Asus one I already had? Plus the Asus one was cheaper.

Ram: seems cheap for cas8 1866 so that's why I chose that. I've seen it on sale for under $50 I know not much different then 1600 but why not?

Case: I was looking to buy a cheaper case atm to save a bit of money because I want the Razer themed h440 but don't have the money right now.

OS: still need one of these around 30 dollars on g2a.

[Thunder Down Under]

Oh ok I wasn't sure exactly what you were planning to do with the system. The Xeon is not a bad processor however I would not recommend going with a Z87 chipset as it can be a bit finicky and that's why I went with the other mobo. Now hyperthreading is great but it is not a substitute for physical cores so if you want to do multitasking such as streaming then somthing with real cores is going to suit you better. I made two new list's one is X99 and one is a AMD option. Now I think considering what you want to do the AMD option is best for you and no i'm not a AMD fanboy(i'm currently running a i7 5820k and GTX 980 by the way). The 8350 is better at multitasking than the intel option's and only a little behind in gaming performance but honestly the chances of you seeing the difference in gaming performace are very slim. Don't get caught up in the intel hype like most first time builders. I have some link's to video's showing the difference between the i5 4690k i7 4790k and the 8350 keep in mind the Xeon you chose would probably fit in between the i5 and i7. Also keep in mind the AMD list has a way better psu than any of the intel list's, the case  you wanted, better CPU cooling, and even some green led fan's to go with your theme for only $79 more than your original list.   Oh and the $30 for the OS.

 

Video's = https://youtu.be/IEkEFC734ho

               https://youtu.be/WZ_5p9wd2dk

 

List's = AMD http://pcpartpicker.com/p/77ZqnQ

      Intel X99 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6fjqnQ

[Giggidy25]

Oh ok I wasn't sure exactly what you were planning to do with the system. The Xeon is not a bad processor however I would not recommend going with a Z87 chipset as it can be a bit finicky and that's why I went with the other mobo. Now hyperthreading is great but it is not a substitute for physical cores so if you want to do multitasking such as streaming then somthing with real cores is going to suit you better. I made two new list's one is X99 and one is a AMD option. Now I think considering what you want to do the AMD option is best for you and no i'm not a AMD fanboy(i'm currently running a i7 5820k and GTX 980 by the way). The 8350 is better at multitasking than the intel option's and only a little behind in gaming performance but honestly the chances of you seeing the difference in gaming performace are very slim. Don't get caught up in the intel hype like most first time builders. I have some link's to video's showing the difference between the i5 4690k i7 4790k and the 8350 keep in mind the Xeon you chose would probably fit in between the i5 and i7. Also keep in mind the AMD list has a way better psu than any of the intel list's, the case you wanted, better CPU cooling, and even some green led fan's to go with your theme for only $79 more than your original list. Oh and the $30 for the OS.

Video's = https://youtu.be/IEkEFC734ho

https://youtu.be/WZ_5p9wd2dk

List's = AMD http://pcpartpicker.com/p/77ZqnQ

Intel X99 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6fjqnQ

Wow those look awesome!! The Intel one is way out of budget but looks great! The amd one I may be able to squeeze but I'm still having thoughts about that cpu... I know the cpu doesn't matter much in most games but the 4690k was getting up to 15 + fps in those videos and wondering ( with the 390) if that will make a difference at 1080p. Also I plan to go for a triple monitor setup and will the cpu be able to handle that?(that's for a later build will most likely upgrade or add another 390 by then) the 8 cores is really compelling!! Thanks so much your awesome!!

[Giggidy25]

Oh ok I wasn't sure exactly what you were planning to do with the system. The Xeon is not a bad processor however I would not recommend going with a Z87 chipset as it can be a bit finicky and that's why I went with the other mobo. Now hyperthreading is great but it is not a substitute for physical cores so if you want to do multitasking such as streaming then somthing with real cores is going to suit you better. I made two new list's one is X99 and one is a AMD option. Now I think considering what you want to do the AMD option is best for you and no i'm not a AMD fanboy(i'm currently running a i7 5820k and GTX 980 by the way). The 8350 is better at multitasking than the intel option's and only a little behind in gaming performance but honestly the chances of you seeing the difference in gaming performace are very slim. Don't get caught up in the intel hype like most first time builders. I have some link's to video's showing the difference between the i5 4690k i7 4790k and the 8350 keep in mind the Xeon you chose would probably fit in between the i5 and i7. Also keep in mind the AMD list has a way better psu than any of the intel list's, the case you wanted, better CPU cooling, and even some green led fan's to go with your theme for only $79 more than your original list. Oh and the $30 for the OS.

Video's = https://youtu.be/IEkEFC734ho

https://youtu.be/WZ_5p9wd2dk

List's = AMD http://pcpartpicker.com/p/77ZqnQ

Intel X99 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6fjqnQ

Also the ram is cas 10 does that effect anything?

[DiegoWithLag]

Very good choice of GPU, CPU and build in general.

Just One note, you will need to get an SSD asap, but i recommend getting an m.2SATA ssd, these are smaller and normally fit right into the motherboard and have greater speeds. You can get one of these for the same price as a normal SSD on amazon. Happy Building

[Giggidy25]

Oh ok I wasn't sure exactly what you were planning to do with the system. The Xeon is not a bad processor however I would not recommend going with a Z87 chipset as it can be a bit finicky and that's why I went with the other mobo. Now hyperthreading is great but it is not a substitute for physical cores so if you want to do multitasking such as streaming then somthing with real cores is going to suit you better. I made two new list's one is X99 and one is a AMD option. Now I think considering what you want to do the AMD option is best for you and no i'm not a AMD fanboy(i'm currently running a i7 5820k and GTX 980 by the way). The 8350 is better at multitasking than the intel option's and only a little behind in gaming performance but honestly the chances of you seeing the difference in gaming performace are very slim. Don't get caught up in the intel hype like most first time builders. I have some link's to video's showing the difference between the i5 4690k i7 4790k and the 8350 keep in mind the Xeon you chose would probably fit in between the i5 and i7. Also keep in mind the AMD list has a way better psu than any of the intel list's, the case you wanted, better CPU cooling, and even some green led fan's to go with your theme for only $79 more than your original list. Oh and the $30 for the OS.

Video's = https://youtu.be/IEkEFC734ho

https://youtu.be/WZ_5p9wd2dk

List's = AMD http://pcpartpicker.com/p/77ZqnQ

Intel X99 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6fjqnQ

Also how much can I safely overclock the amd cpu with that cooler?

[Thunder Down Under]

I don't think one 390 is quite enough for triple monitors but what type of monitor/monitors are you planing on running. And no the ram cas won't make a difference. Are you planning on gaming at 60 hz or 144?

[Giggidy25]

I don't think one 390 is quite enough for triple monitors but what type of monitor/monitors are you planing on running. And no the ram cas won't make a difference. Are you planning on gaming at 60 hz or 144?

1080p 60hz maybe an upgrade to 144hz or 1440p but just one monitor if I go for 3 monitors they will be 1080p 60hz

[Thunder Down Under]

Oh and I don't feel like have enough experience to speak about 3 way monitor setups but here is a nice video on it.

 

https://youtu.be/Nfcic3whaHE

[Giggidy25]

Oh and I don't feel like have enough experience to speak about 3 way monitor setups but here is a nice video on it.

https://youtu.be/Nfcic3whaHE

I actually have watched that video

[Giggidy25]

I don't think one 390 is quite enough for triple monitors but what type of monitor/monitors are you planing on running. And no the ram cas won't make a difference. Are you planning on gaming at 60 hz or 144?

But my real question is will I notice that much of a difference using the amd over the 4690k to buy the intel cpu? Also how much can I overclock the amd cpu with the hyper 212 evo

[Giggidy25]

Oh ok I wasn't sure exactly what you were planning to do with the system. The Xeon is not a bad processor however I would not recommend going with a Z87 chipset as it can be a bit finicky and that's why I went with the other mobo. Now hyperthreading is great but it is not a substitute for physical cores so if you want to do multitasking such as streaming then somthing with real cores is going to suit you better. I made two new list's one is X99 and one is a AMD option. Now I think considering what you want to do the AMD option is best for you and no i'm not a AMD fanboy(i'm currently running a i7 5820k and GTX 980 by the way). The 8350 is better at multitasking than the intel option's and only a little behind in gaming performance but honestly the chances of you seeing the difference in gaming performace are very slim. Don't get caught up in the intel hype like most first time builders. I have some link's to video's showing the difference between the i5 4690k i7 4790k and the 8350 keep in mind the Xeon you chose would probably fit in between the i5 and i7. Also keep in mind the AMD list has a way better psu than any of the intel list's, the case you wanted, better CPU cooling, and even some green led fan's to go with your theme for only $79 more than your original list. Oh and the $30 for the OS.

Video's = https://youtu.be/IEkEFC734ho

https://youtu.be/WZ_5p9wd2dk

List's = AMD http://pcpartpicker.com/p/77ZqnQ

Intel X99 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6fjqnQ

So I did some more research and found that the i5 is just much better than the fx cpu. I'm spending close to a thousand dollars so I need to stick with the best for the money an the amd just isn't that. Unless you can prove me wrong I will go with the xeon processors, still utilizing more than 4 cores

[Thunder Down Under]

For the cpu I do think if that you may see a bit of a difference in the games that the 8350 dropped 15 fps behind on but it is not going be significant in any way however I can't really tell you becuase everybody is different when it comes to that type of thing but I don't see much of a difference. And i'm not sure how high of a overclock you can get on hyper 212 becuase every chip is different but I've seen people get up to 4.5 GHZ stable with the 8350 and hyper 212. By the way from what i've seen most people tend to buy intel becuase they obsess over the numbers and don't just look at the screen and see if the the higher numbers actually translate to your real world gaming experience . If you're wanting to game at 60hz then you should be just fine with the 8350 and r9 390 but if you want to game at 144hz then I recommend you put your time and money into getting a higher end GPU instead of a new CPU as you will get far better performance for your money. And as for the core count games as of now only use 4 cores but DX12 is going to alow games to use as many as you have however DX12 supported games won't be coming out for probably another year so I wouldn't count on that for now. There is nothing wrong with going with the i5 or Xeon I just want to show you your option's. Only reason I chose to go X99 is beacuase I didn't see enough of a performance gain to between the 8350 and the 4690k or even the 4790k but we do have different applications. I think that Xeon is nice man and if you like it go for it.

[Thunder Down Under]

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