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Hello guys,

 

I just want some advice for a system, it is for my dad for his work.

 

Budget: 1200$ (or euros) note: you dont have to spend the whole budget, dont get extra things he doesnt need

 

Location: The Netherlands

 

Use: Photoshop and Lightroom CC (he is a photographer)

 

Monitors: 1 for now but would be nice if he could upgrade to 2 later

 

Peripherals: I only need the computer itself and a nice monitor, 1080p or 1440p (update tomorrow what resolution)

 

OS: he wants a genuine copy of windows, doesnt really matter what version (because he will be upgrading to windows 10 when it comes out)

 

Why upgrade? his old computer was going too slow for the things he was doing (i dont currently have the specs of his old machine but that should be coming tomorrow)

 

Extra notes:

1. You dont have to spend the whole budget, dont get extra things he doesnt need.

2. He has glass fiber at work so wifi ac would be nice, idk if he has wired internet where he will use the machine (update tomorrow)

3. He wants a quiet computer and does not want to overclock, no K series CPUs

4. Yes i have watched the video from ncix about the ultra compact gaming rig

 

Preffered case: Raijintek Metis, i showed him this case, and he likes it alot. he does not want a bulky computer, even bitfenix prodigy would be too big i think.

 

One question: do you need a beefy CPU or GPU for photoshop/lightroom and will the iGPU do?

 

Build i was thinking of: 

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($217.99 @ NCIX US) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D9L 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($120.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.98 @ OutletPC) 
Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Pro OEM (64-bit)  ($149.98 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VX228H 60Hz 21.5" Monitor  ($139.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $1073.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Well, Nvidia GPUs with its CUDA cores would help a lot in Adobe applications like Photoshop.

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might as well go for a Xeon....

 
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1246 V3 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($276.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ Micro Center) 
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.98 @ OutletPC) 
Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($87.98 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VX248H 60Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $983.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Well crap I didn't read that lol. If you are using Photoshop CC 2014, then actually use a Radeon GPU since they destroy at OpenCL.

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Well crap I didn't read that lol. If you are using Photoshop CC 2014, then actually use a Radeon GPU since they destroy at OpenCL.

The case only holds under 170mm graphics cards so that's not going to work.

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The case only holds under 170mm graphics cards so that's not going to work.

You can get some ITX sized cards like the Sapphire R9 285 ITX Compact Edition.

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Compact-PCI-Express-Graphics-11235-06-20G/dp/B00N2ROP36

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You can get some ITX sized cards like the Sapphire R9 285 ITX Compact Edition.

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Compact-PCI-Express-Graphics-11235-06-20G/dp/B00N2ROP36

Yes but why not get a slightly bigger case and pack in a 290 or 290X the cheapest 290's are only 20$ more and blow 285's sky high. Also if you got a standard case that used a normal power supply he could shave off some dollars there.

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Yes but why not get a slightly bigger case and pack in a 290 or 290X the cheapest 290's are only 20$ more and blow 285's sky high. Also if you got a standard case that used a normal power supply he could shave off some dollars there.

I guess the guy really likes this case.

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I would skip the cpu cooler and spend no more than 60 dollars on the PSU. I would DEFINITELY add a GPU acceleration. Hell you can even go core i3 + GPU. Do some research on the GPU to see what will give you the best performance per price.

Your saying drop the core count by half? Now that it's what is the definition of a bad idea, there are other ways to reduce price.

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i see you guys are discussing about xeons and gpus and such, but there is a need and a want, i think you guys are going for the want and not the need? can someone show me a comparison of how photoshop and lightroom handle certain cpus and gpus?

 

edit: that xeon may be a good idea though..

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Your saying drop the core count by half? Now that it's what is the definition of a bad idea, there are other ways to reduce price.

indeed, and this build is not about fitting something into a budget, but rather about getting a machine that is stable and does what it needs to do, for work. and no i will not go with an i3

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indeed, and this build is not about fitting something into a budget, but rather about getting a machine that is stable and does what it needs to do, for work. and no i will not go with an i3

 

Probably not the best idea to get an i3 for photoshop. Is your guy a pro or just starting out? I would get a GPU for sure. It helps a lot. 

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Probably not the best idea to get an i3 for photoshop. Is your guy a pro or just starting out? I would get a GPU for sure. It helps a lot. 

pro, as i said, he does this as a job, he has been selling cameras for over 10 years..

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Mushkin Stealth 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.98 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.89 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB Gaming Video Card ($278.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.98 @ OutletPC)

Monitor: Asus VN248H-P 23.8" Monitor ($133.00 @ Newegg)

Total: $1227.62

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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I could have only included one drive to make it fit your budget then I realized all of your dad's work is on here so raid 1 is a must.

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might as well go for a Xeon....

 
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1246 V3 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($276.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ Micro Center) 
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.98 @ OutletPC) 
Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($87.98 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Asus VX248H 60Hz 24.0" Monitor  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $983.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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does he need 16 Gb of ram? btw he will be working with raw files which are about 35 MB (he says 1800 photos fit on a 64 GB sd card)

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Mushkin Stealth 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.98 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.89 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($70.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB Gaming Video Card ($278.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.98 @ OutletPC)

Monitor: Asus VN248H-P 23.8" Monitor ($133.00 @ Newegg)

Total: $1227.62

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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I could have only included one drive to make it fit your budget then I realized all of your dad's work is on here so raid 1 is a must.

290X for photoshop... really??? and btw that's going to create a steel furnace in such a small case

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does he need 16 Gb of ram? btw he will be working with raw files which are about 35 MB (he says 1800 photos fit on a 64 GB sd card)

290X for photoshop... really??? and btw that's going to create a steel furnace in such a small case

Keep the 16GB adobe likes it when doing a few tasks, the open CL acceleration of a 290X would be very helpful but you could go to a 290 without sacrificing that much, but modern applications are finally using GPU acceleration so skimping out on GPU power can seriously hurt tasks.

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A hyperthreaded cpu is really needed. As is a good gpu - Photoshop will use the gpu to accelerate various editing functions. I have included a very good cpu cooler to help with cooling and noise levels. I'd like a better psu, but that would really push the budget.

 

An IPS monitor with its better color reproduction is a good choice for photo editing.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($64.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5"; Solid State Drive  ($97.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital WD Green 2TB 3.5"; 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card  ($342.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($87.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VN248H-P 23.8"; Monitor  ($133.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $1274.73
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A hyperthreaded cpu is really needed. As is a good gpu - Photoshop will use the gpu to accelerate various editing functions. I have included a very good cpu cooler to help with cooling and noise levels. I'd like a better psu, but that would really push the budget. An IPS monitor with its better color reproduction is a good choice for photo editing. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Mwave)Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5"; Solid State Drive ($97.98 @ OutletPC)Storage: Western Digital WD Green 2TB 3.5"; 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.89 @ OutletPC)Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($342.99 @ SuperBiiz)Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.98 @ OutletPC)Monitor: Asus VN248H-P 23.8"; Monitor ($133.00 @ Newegg)Total: $1274.73Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-11 19:21 EDT-0400

Why the 970 when it's openCL?

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Keep the 16GB adobe likes it when doing a few tasks, the open CL acceleration of a 290X would be very helpful but you could go to a 290 without sacrificing that much, but modern applications are finally using GPU acceleration so skimping out on GPU power can seriously hurt tasks.

will it hurt the workflow by just going with the xeon that @Bubblewhale suggested? because i think it is ridiculous that kind of a gpu just for editing photos. you need to understand need and want better i think

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will it hurt the workflow by just going with the xeon that @Bubblewhale suggested? because i think it is ridiculous that kind of a gpu just for editing photos. you need to understand need and want better i think

You would maximize workflow by going with a xeon it's essentially a i7 but way cheaper, if you are adimit about a lower GPU get a 280X but seriously you need to understand what GPU acceleration is, and how much it effects programs that use it.

Your best CPU choice would be

Xeon E3-1241 V3

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