My first PC build

[Jake13424]

I've been wanting to build a computer for a while now since I broke my laptop. I plan to add a graphics card later due to my budget. I want to know if this is a good build that is somewhat "future proof" and will deliver good performance for what I'm spending.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZG9gxr

[WoodenMarker]

What's the system being used for? No ssd?

Is the optical drive really necessary?

[TheSLSAMG]

Go for a Cryorig H5 or be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 for the cooler and get a slightly better motherboard. Add in something like a 290X or a GTX 970 down the line and you will be ready to go with a good gaming rig. Do you really need the ODD or fan though?

[Encoded7]

I've been wanting to build a computer for a while now since I broke my laptop. I plan to add a graphics card later due to my budget. I want to know if this is a good build that is somewhat "future proof" and will deliver good performance for what I'm spending.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZG9gxr

 

Go WD Blue, save some money, and also an SSD is pretty much godsend! If your budget allows it!

[Jake13424]

Go for a Cryorig H5 or be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 for the cooler and get a slightly better motherboard. Add in something like a 290X or a GTX 970 down the line and you will be ready to go with a good gaming rig. Do you really need the ODD or fan though?

I will need the optical drive for burning CDs, as my truck doesn't have AUX. As for the fan, do you think that this system will get enough airflow with just the stock case fans?

[Jake13424]

What's the system being used for? No ssd?

Is the optical drive really necessary?

The system will be used for gaming and running CAD programs from time to time. Should I spend the extra money to get an ssd? And yes, I will need an optical drive.

[Sam Z Man]

 

The system will be used for gaming and running CAD programs from time to time. Should I spend the extra money to get an ssd? And yes, I will need an optical drive.

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($113.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Kingston Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer  ($13.99 @ Amazon) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($87.88 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $680.81

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-17 23:42 EDT-0400

 

I slashed 95$ bucks off and got a better motherboard that can run sli if you take that route down the road, get a ssd first its way easier to add a Hard drive latter then adding a ssd later, also you can use a stock cooler until you get the more cash, and I also put in a better power supply. Personally I would put the extra 95$ towards a better case but the choice is yours to do with it as you wish. 

[Jake13424]

 

 

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($113.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Kingston Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer  ($13.99 @ Amazon) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($87.88 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $680.81

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-17 23:42 EDT-0400

 

I slashed 95$ bucks off and got a better motherboard that can run sli if you take that route down the road, get a ssd first its way easier to add a Hard drive latter then adding a ssd later, also you can use a stock cooler until you get the more cash, and I also put in a better power supply. Personally I would put the extra 95$ towards a better case but the choice is yours to do with it as you wish. 

 

Thanks for the helpful advice. I will definitely go with the ssd first, as I won't be downloading anything huge until my rig is ready for gaming. As for cooling, I won't be overclocking until gaming, so the stock fan only makes sense as of right now. What case would you recommend?

[Sam Z Man]

Thanks for the helpful advice. I will definitely go with the ssd first, as I won't be downloading anything huge until my rig is ready for gaming. As for cooling, I won't be overclocking until gaming, so the stock fan only makes sense as of right now. What case would you recommend?

My case suggestions are anything over the 60-80$ made by Fractal Design, NZXT, or Corsair that is compatible with your components.

But if you would be willing to spend a little extra I would forgo the case for now and run the thing on your desk and buy this thing while it's on sale because it's dirt cheap.

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003612sr

[WoodenMarker]

The system will be used for gaming and running CAD programs from time to time. Should I spend the extra money to get an ssd? And yes, I will need an optical drive.

Getting a ssd makes a world of difference and I'd highly recommend getting one.

Gaming yet no graphics card?

[Jake13424]

Getting a ssd makes a world of difference and I'd highly recommend getting one.

Gaming yet no graphics card?

I am going to buy a graphics card later when I get more money. I'm just trying to get the bare necessities for right now so I can get this computer ordered up and built ASAP.

[WoodenMarker]

I am going to buy a graphics card later when I get more money. I'm just trying to get the bare necessities for right now so I can get this computer ordered up and built ASAP.

You could just get the graphics card from the get-go: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6KqjQ7

[Sam Z Man]

You could just get the graphics card from the get-go: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6KqjQ7

Yes that works but it is sacrificing so much performance, if he wants to build it progressively and is willing to wait why would he need everything now but with so many compromises.

[WoodenMarker]

Yes that works but it is sacrificing so much performance, if he wants to build it progressively and is willing to wait why would he need everything now but with so many compromises.

Where's the 'so much performance' and 'so many compromises' you're mentioning?

[Sam Z Man]

Where's the 'so much performance' and 'so many compromises' you're mentioning?

No overclocking, no possibility for crossfire let alone sli, worse SSD, worse graphics card, no dual channel RAM, worse power supply, worse stock clock speed.

[WoodenMarker]

No overclocking, no possibility for crossfire let alone sli, worse SSD, worse graphics card, no dual channel RAM, worse power supply, worse stock clock speed.

The difference between the 4440 and an oc'ed 4690k isn't much for most games. The SP600 isn't far behind other decent SSDs and the difference is likely unnoticeable. A graphics card is better than no graphics card. The difference between single and dual channel ram for gaming with a dedicated graphics card is negligible. The psu doesn't have any practical difference as long as it works.

[Sam Z Man]

The difference between the 4440 and an oc'ed 4690k isn't much for most games. The SP600 isn't far behind other decent SSDs and the difference is likely unnoticeable. A graphics card is better than no graphics card. The difference between single and dual channel ram for gaming with a dedicated graphics card is negligible. The psu doesn't have any practical difference as long as it works.

There is still a difference when going with 4690K in things like games that do use it and other tasks that benefit from faster cores.

The SP600 has good reads but crap writes.

He said he was going to buy a graphics card down the road a bit because he's OK with waiting.

There is still a difference when using single channel some tasks are worse with it.

The PSU matters the most because what happens if it stops working, oh yea it can take most of your system with it.

Yet you still never mentioned the fact that the board you choose had only a single PCIe slot that runs at 2.0 16x witch makes it even more of a joke.

And everything you said basically aquaints to this: it won't effect gaming the difference will be negligible. Open your eyes there is still a difference and you can use computers to do more than just game.

[WoodenMarker]

There is still a difference when going with 4690K in things like games that do use it and other tasks that benefit from faster cores.

The SP600 has good reads but crap writes.

He said he was going to buy a graphics card down the road a bit because he's OK with waiting.

There is still a difference when using single channel some tasks are worse with it.

The PSU matters the most because what happens if it stops working, oh yea it can take most of your system with it.

Yet you still never mentioned the fact that the board you choose had only a single PCIe slot that runs at 2.0 16x witch makes it even more of a joke.

And everything you said basically aquaints to this: it won't effect gaming the difference will be negligible. Open your eyes there is still a difference and you can use computers to do more than just game.

For everyday usage, write speeds don't make that much of a difference for a drive that is just going to store the OS and programs. It's still faster than the Fury you recommended: http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Kingston-HyperX-Fury-120GB-vs-Adata-SP600-128GB/2586vsm7306

Please link a practical scenario where the difference between single and dual channel would be applicable. 

The 500B1 isn't bad. It shouldn't take out the system if it dies like any other decent psu. 

The difference between 2.0 and 3.0 16x is negligible for today's cards in gaming.

There are differences but they are negligible--please mention what would actually take a perceivable hit since you make it seem so drastic as to call it 'so much performance' and 'so many compromises' but don't give actual examples other than 'other things'. Link benchmarks showing how much or how little those things actually matter.

So far, the compromise comes down to lack of oc'ing which really isn't worth the money for those who don't need the power and isn't that much of a difference until games become more cpu heavy in a few years or so and lack of sli/cf which usually isn't recommended when the time comes to upgrade and is an upgrade most people don't go with despite having planned to in the past.

[Sam Z Man]

For everyday usage, write speeds don't make that much of a difference for a drive that is just going to store the OS and programs. It's still faster than the Fury you recommended: http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Kingston-HyperX-Fury-120GB-vs-Adata-SP600-128GB/2586vsm7306

Please link a practical scenario where the difference between single and dual channel would be applicable. 

The 500B1 isn't bad. It shouldn't take out the system if it dies like any other decent psu. 

The difference between 2.0 and 3.0 16x is negligible for today's cards in gaming.

There are differences but they are negligible--please mention what would actually take a perceivable hit since you make it seem so drastic as to call it 'so much performance' and 'so many compromises' but don't give actual examples other than 'other things'. Link benchmarks showing how much or how little those things actually matter.

So far, the compromise comes down to lack of oc'ing which really isn't worth the money for those who don't need the power and isn't that much of a difference until games become more cpu heavy in a few years or so and lack of sli/cf which usually isn't recommended when the time comes to upgrade and is an upgrade most people don't go with despite having planned to in the past.

Your so fricking stubborn, the op said he was going to be getting stuff later on why the duck do you think he needs or all now.

[WoodenMarker]

Your so fricking stubborn, the op said he was going to be getting stuff later on why the duck do you think he needs or all now.

I never said anything about needing it now. I'm just showing a similar performing system for a few hundred dollars less. After all, why spend more if it's unnecessary or not very helpful?

You're actually the one saying the difference is all so big yet don't actually show benchmarks or tests--basically exaggerating on the behalf of the worse recommendation.

[Sam Z Man]

I never said anything about needing it now. I'm just showing a similar performing system for a few hundred dollars less. After all, why spend more if it's unnecessary or not very helpful?

You're actually the one saying the difference is all so big yet don't actually show benchmarks or tests--basically exaggerating on the behalf of the worse recommendation.

But dat fps doe.

[WoodenMarker]

But dat fps doe.

Exactly--what fps?

Link some benchmarks instead of saying 'the difference is massive but I won't show you'.

[Sam Z Man]

Exactly--what fps?

Link some benchmarks instead of saying 'the difference is massive but I won't show you'.

Well if you have a better CPU and better GPU why would you need benchmarks it's common sense.

[WoodenMarker]

Well if you have a better CPU and better GPU why would you need benchmarks it's common sense.

Because you say the difference is huge when they are not. 

It's like how the 7970 is better than the 7950 but isn't massively better or worth several hundred dollars more.