help pushing overclock further

[jrok96]

ok so im new to overclocking and believe i have my 4690k stable at 47x and 1.275v . i am doing this on asus z97ar with g.skill ripjaws 2x4gb mdules. I am wanting to go further and i think i still have some thermal headroom. btw using h240x swiftech with gelid xtreme paste and temps stay in the low to mid 70's when running ibt at very high setting. when i push to 48 everyting boots and even ibt runs with no crash, but cinebench will give me watchdog bsod. i have tried as much as 1.310v and am kind of afraid to push past that. should i be adjusting the ring bus settings to help with stability? I would love some help with this? I have become obsessed with learning about overclocking this thing!

[Prastupok]

ok so im new to overclocking and believe i have my 4690k stable at 47x and 1.275v . i am doing this on asus z97ar with g.skill ripjaws 2x4gb mdules. I am wanting to go further and i think i still have some thermal headroom. btw using h240x swiftech with gelid xtreme paste and temps stay in the low to mid 70's when running ibt at very high setting. when i push to 48 everyting boots and even ibt runs with no crash, but cinebench will give me watchdog bsod. i have tried as much as 1.310v and am kind of afraid to push past that. should i be adjusting the ring bus settings to help with stability? I would love some help with this? I have become obsessed with learning about overclocking this thing!

 

That voltage is rather low for that high an overclock... For reference though, my 5820 is at 4.7GHz and 1.383 on air.

[Faceman]

Hello, same motherboard, and similar CPU here.  i5-4670k.  What I did with my ringbus that really helped my core was set it to min = 38, max = 38 voltage = adaptive @ 1.000

 

You already have a really amazing OC, and you do have thermal headroom.  After a certain point, chips start to require more voltage for stability, so you might have to go up higher than 1.310 in order to attain x48.  I would not go past 1.35v

 

Even though I also have such an amazing chip, I actually only needed 1.275v for x47, I ended up doing an undervolted overclock.  4.2Ghz @ 1.060v.  I just don't play enough games that require the extra horsepower, but it is there if I need it.

[jrok96]

Also is this normal? when i first built the system i was able to use less voltage and have it pass stability tests. i was able to use 1.260 where now i need 1.275? Even the asus ai suite 3 auto overclock cant/wont go as far as it did when i first built ? i started by using that program until i was brave enough to do it myselt. Ai suite originally would go to 47,49,49,47 when using per core option. now it goes to 46,47,47,46?? Did i degrade the chip?

[Jumper118]

ok so im new to overclocking and believe i have my 4690k stable at 47x and 1.275v . i am doing this on asus z97ar with g.skill ripjaws 2x4gb mdules. I am wanting to go further and i think i still have some thermal headroom. btw using h240x swiftech with gelid xtreme paste and temps stay in the low to mid 70's when running ibt at very high setting. when i push to 48 everyting boots and even ibt runs with no crash, but cinebench will give me watchdog bsod. i have tried as much as 1.310v and am kind of afraid to push past that. should i be adjusting the ring bus settings to help with stability? I would love some help with this? I have become obsessed with learning about overclocking this thing!

hi. prokon has a great guide here http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/41234-intel-haswell-4670k-4770k-overclocking-guide/ try and stick below 80-85c max temps on all cores and you'll be ok

[Faceman]

Also is this normal? when i first built the system i was able to use less voltage and have it pass stability tests. i was able to use 1.260 where now i need 1.275? Even the asus ai suite 3 auto overclock cant/wont go as far as it did when i first built ? i started by using that program until i was brave enough to do it myselt. Ai suite originally would go to 47,49,49,47 when using per core option. now it goes to 46,47,47,46?? Did i degrade the chip?

No, not at all. AI Tuner is good to get an idea of what kind of OC you have, but it is not perfect.  Even when I did the auto tuning, I would get mixed results, not too far off like what you experienced, but mixed.

 

You should also keep your LLC settings in check.

[jrok96]

by in check whet setting do you mean. ? 8? or 7?

[jrok96]

which stresstests do you use with haswell? And which program gives the actual vcore when your under load?

[jrok96]

so as long as im under 1.35  i wont degrade the chip? And ofcoarse temps stay below 85.

[Jumper118]

so as long as im under 1.35  i wont degrade the chip? And ofcoarse temps stay below 85.

all chips degrade at any voltage, but it should last well over 3 years as long as you keep it at 1.35v and under 85c. intel xtu will give you everything if it supports your motherboard, it has a stress test too.

[Faceman]

by in check whet setting do you mean. ? 8? or 7?

You need to quote or "@" me so that I know you have responded.

 

Keep your LLC between 2 and 5. 

 

Here is a really good write up done by Queek that explains LLC.  Here are some other guides as well.

 

http://rog.asus.com/...or-Overclocking

http://www.wikihow.com/Overclock-a-PC

https://teksyndicate...ng-guide/153447

http://www.overclock...with-statistics

http://linustechtips...clocking-guide/

Load Line Calibration, Why Overclockers Should Care

 

The LLC setting was the one setting that the Asus auto overclock does that is not good.  It sets it to the maximum value, which is not good, it causes vBoost(overvolting).  You want this set to 2-5 out of 8.

[jrok96]

You need to quote or "@" me so that I know you have responded.

 

Keep your LLC between 2 and 5. 

 

Here is a really good write up done by Queek that explains LLC.  Here are some other guides as well.

 

http://rog.asus.com/...or-Overclocking

http://www.wikihow.com/Overclock-a-PC

https://teksyndicate...ng-guide/153447

http://www.overclock...with-statistics

http://linustechtips...clocking-guide/

Load Line Calibration, Why Overclockers Should Care

 

The LLC setting was the one setting that the Asus auto overclock does that is not good.  It sets it to the maximum value, which is not good, it causes vBoost(overvolting).  You want this set to 2-5 out of 8.

ok thankyou. I put llc to 4. i am trying 48x now. I am unsure of which voltage reading to trust though.  extreme tuning utility says 1.32 which is what i put in bios but asus dip5 always says vcore is higher. like during stress test right now it says 1.344. i know llc can boost but with it on im not sure which reading is the live correct reading

[jrok96]

You need to quote or "@" me so that I know you have responded.

 

Keep your LLC between 2 and 5. 

 

Here is a really good write up done by Queek that explains LLC.  Here are some other guides as well.

 

http://rog.asus.com/...or-Overclocking

http://www.wikihow.com/Overclock-a-PC

https://teksyndicate...ng-guide/153447

http://www.overclock...with-statistics

http://linustechtips...clocking-guide/

Load Line Calibration, Why Overclockers Should Care

 

The LLC setting was the one setting that the Asus auto overclock does that is not good.  It sets it to the maximum value, which is not good, it causes vBoost(overvolting).  You want this set to 2-5 out of 8.

i dont know i think 4.7 is my limit for now, until i learn more. when i just went to 48 with 1.320 i get bsod on cinebench. i went to 1345 and same thing. watchdog timeout.

[Blackie Sheen]

ok so im new to overclocking and believe i have my 4690k stable at 47x and 1.275v . i am doing this on asus z97ar with g.skill ripjaws 2x4gb mdules. I am wanting to go further and i think i still have some thermal headroom. btw using h240x swiftech with gelid xtreme paste and temps stay in the low to mid 70's when running ibt at very high setting. when i push to 48 everyting boots and even ibt runs with no crash, but cinebench will give me watchdog bsod. i have tried as much as 1.310v and am kind of afraid to push past that. should i be adjusting the ring bus settings to help with stability? I would love some help with this? I have become obsessed with learning about overclocking this thing!

1.31 is not that high. Maybe chips would not even be able to be stable 4,7 at 1,31 volt. If I were you, what I would do is to push your overclock as far as you can under something like 1.40V only as a fun experience to see how your chip performs and push it back down to your 4,7 gHz at 1,275 for constant use afterwards.