Outdoors antenna?

[780blzit]

Hey guys, I'm just wondering what your thoughts and opinions are on this:

 

http://www.tp-link.com/lk/products/details/?model=TL-ANT2424B#over

 

I was thinking of getting it, and right now I have a Asus RT-AC66U router and I'm wondering if all I could do is remove one antenna from the router, get an adapter and a longer cable and hook this thing up? 

It's fairly cheap aswell.

[jbr]

That's a directional antenna, 

 

They are for when you know where a signal is coming from and you aim the antenna at it.

 

If you want to pick up wi-fi from all around, better to go for Omni-directional.

 

Like this

 

http://www.wilsonamplifiers.com/omni-directional-antenna-wide-band-50ohm-n-connector-311203/?utm_source=Shopzilla&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopzilla&utm_content=WA311203&gdftrk=gdfV29614_a_7c3304_a_7c10017_a_7cWA311203

 

Yes, you can remove one antenna from the router and hook up an external, you may need an adapter though.

[780blzit]

That's a directional antenna, 

 

They are for when you know where a signal is coming from and you aim the antenna at it.

 

If you want to pick up wi-fi from all around, better to go for Omni-directional.

 

Like this

 

http://www.wilsonamplifiers.com/omni-directional-antenna-wide-band-50ohm-n-connector-311203/?utm_source=Shopzilla&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopzilla&utm_content=WA311203&gdftrk=gdfV29614_a_7c3304_a_7c10017_a_7cWA311203

 

Yes, you can remove one antenna from the router and hook up an external, you may need an adapter though.

Oh, I see, would I be better off buying an Omni-directional external antenna or 3 other ones to hook up to my router directly? 

 

What kind of range does this give? In let's say just for examples an open field with no disruptions? 

 

Thank you

[Darren]

What kind of wireless coverage are you actually trying to achieve here?

[780blzit]

What kind of wireless coverage are you actually trying to achieve here?

Something like 100-150 meters in diameter.

Something like this: 

Edit: sorry for epic paintskills

[Darren]

Something like 100-150 meters in diameter.

Something like this: 

Edit: sorry for epic paintskills

 

 

Is the goal to provide an internet service to these houses?

What is your budget?

How many houses?

Are they willing to pay for equipment on their premise?

[780blzit]

Is the goal to provide an internet service to these houses?

What is your budget?

How many houses?

Are they willing to pay for equipment on their premise?

Yes

idk something reasonable

11-12

No

[TheGeekster]

I'm not a wifi expert, but even the industrial wifi units we have in the offices where I work, you'll struggle with just one, you'll need multiple access points. Even then that's a little unsafe, as everyone will be connecting using the same wifi if I understood correctly? Basically meaning everyone's computer will be on the same lan... only takes one to have a snoop and it has 11/12 houses of information.

 

What a normal system like this would do, you'd have one central point, which pushes out a strong wifi signal, and then on each house, you'd have a reciever outside on the wall, which will then turn it into a wired network to be fed into the house, into a router or what ever device they want to have their end, you'd then use NAT and have public IP addresses for each house. Not that easy if you're supplying internet to the public.

 

Edit: You won't get a single point of wifi to penetrate through people's houses with decent signal to reach the whole house, you'll have people complaining of bad signal etc)

[Darren]

I'm not a wifi expert, but even the industrial wifi units we have in the offices where I work, you'll struggle with just one, you'll need multiple access points. Even then that's a little unsafe, as everyone will be connecting using the same wifi if I understood correctly? Basically meaning everyone's computer will be on the same lan... only takes one to have a snoop and it has 11/12 houses of information.

 

What a normal system like this would do, you'd have one central point, which pushes out a strong wifi signal, and then on each house, you'd have a reciever outside on the wall, which will then turn it into a wired network to be fed into the house, into a router or what ever device they want to have their end, you'd then use NAT and have public IP addresses for each house. Not that easy if you're supplying internet to the public.

 

Edit: You won't get a single point of wifi to penetrate through people's houses with decent signal to reach the whole house, you'll have people complaining of bad signal etc)

 

Yeah, essentially this. 

 

Yes

idk something reasonable

11-12

No

 

What's driving this deployment?

Is this for a campsite, are these rented houses?

Why do they not want to pay for equipment on their house, sounds like they don't want a service.

[780blzit]

Yeah, essentially this. 

 

 

What's driving this deployment?

Is this for a campsite, are these rented houses?

Why do they not want to pay for equipment on their house, sounds like they don't want a service.

It's a property my mom owns, she wants to offer free wifi to these houses, that she rents to people. 

 

 

I'm not a wifi expert, but even the industrial wifi units we have in the offices where I work, you'll struggle with just one, you'll need multiple access points. Even then that's a little unsafe, as everyone will be connecting using the same wifi if I understood correctly? Basically meaning everyone's computer will be on the same lan... only takes one to have a snoop and it has 11/12 houses of information.

 

What a normal system like this would do, you'd have one central point, which pushes out a strong wifi signal, and then on each house, you'd have a reciever outside on the wall, which will then turn it into a wired network to be fed into the house, into a router or what ever device they want to have their end, you'd then use NAT and have public IP addresses for each house. Not that easy if you're supplying internet to the public.

 

Edit: You won't get a single point of wifi to penetrate through people's houses with decent signal to reach the whole house, you'll have people complaining of bad signal etc)

What about one of these: http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-ANT2414A-Outdoor-Directional-connector/dp/B003CFATOC ? 

I have an Asus router so I have a guest network which is not password protected. There will be no ethernet support, I only want the wifi to be extended and available for these small houses.

 

 

btw, the picture I draw in paint is not really accurate. Becasue the antenna can not be located in the middle.

[jhaun]

If you've got the cash for it, the bullet by ubiquiti has some insane range. We tested it at a friends house and had signal all the way down the block. If you're in the same room as it though it's too strong and your device just won't connect.

[s3ns3]

Doesnt matter how powerfull the antenna is,your router cant amplify it to max dbi.

But yeah if you put it outdoors the range will increase a lil bit.maybe the closest house will have a signal but it would be low. What you want to achieve cant be done with your home router. You need some expensive gear

[780blzit]

Doesnt matter how powerfull the antenna is,your router cant amplify it to max dbi.

But yeah if you put it outdoors the range will increase a lil bit.maybe the closest house will have a signal but it would be low. What you want to achieve cant be done with your home router. You need some expensive gear

Care to explain? Why can't my router amplify?

 

It can already reach quite far without an antenna, the problem is when you go inside.

[Darren]

Care to explain? Why can't my router amplify?

 

It can already reach quite far without an antenna, the problem is when you go inside.

 

Your router couldn't power the antennae even if you tried.

 

The setup you want cannot be achieved with consumer gear, you need some decent investment into the infrastructure. If your mother doesn't want to spend the money, then too bad.

[780blzit]

Your router couldn't power the antennae even if you tried.

 

The setup you want cannot be achieved with consumer gear, you need some decent investment into the infrastructure. If your mother doesn't want to spend the money, then too bad.

Why not...?

 

I don't want to believe that  

[jhaun]

Why not...?

 

I don't want to believe that

Your home router isn't designed to power a bigass antenna like that. If you plug it into a huge antenna it might work for a bit but it wont actually be running anywhere near the max output of the antenna. It's the same concept as with other stuff like audio equipment. Just because I can plug my ipod into a 1000 watt subwoofer doesn't mean the ipod is gonna be able to drive the speaker as loud as it can go.

 

Seriously though, get a bullet. They're not the nicest equipment but for their range they're pretty cheap and the titanium ones can withstand some pretty serious weather. only major downside is you have to decide when you buy it if you want it to be 2.4 or 5 ghz.

[f22luke]

I would say that open mesh is your best bet: 

[780blzit]

I would say that open mesh is your best bet: 

 

 

Your home router isn't designed to power a bigass antenna like that. If you plug it into a huge antenna it might work for a bit but it wont actually be running anywhere near the max output of the antenna. It's the same concept as with other stuff like audio equipment. Just because I can plug my ipod into a 1000 watt subwoofer doesn't mean the ipod is gonna be able to drive the speaker as loud as it can go.

 

Seriously though, get a bullet. They're not the nicest equipment but for their range they're pretty cheap and the titanium ones can withstand some pretty serious weather. only major downside is you have to decide when you buy it if you want it to be 2.4 or 5 ghz.

 

 

What about a powerline homeplug?

[jhaun]

What about a powerline homeplug?

 

Aren't you trying to link multiple houses? Unless all of the houses on the block run off a single fuse in your house powerline won't work. Unless you ran your own power cables, which is probably illegal and then you shouldn't use powerline anyway and you're looking at building your own ISP...