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No I don't live near a Microcenter shop but I do live near a computer shop, Memory Express. I just saw that video btw right before the other reply that's why I figured 1866 is good enough, but then there's the CL stuff so I don't know if CL9 or 10 and I don't know which frequency-CL is good. I do understand the lower is better and the calculation part but I don't know if there's a specific range of frequencies within that CL.

Its simple, you divide the first number of the CAS by the frequency.  Thats it.  The lower the number, the better/faster the RAM.

 

I like to multiply the number I get by 2000, to make it a larger number which is easier to read.  example: (9 / 1600) * 2000 = 11.25

Here are some common ones:

 

1600 / 9 = 11.25

2133 / 10 = 9.37

1600 / 7 = 8.75

1866 / 8 = 8.57

2133 / 9 = 8.43

2400 / 10 = 8.33

2400 / 9 = 7.5

 

Find the RAM that has the aesthetic you want, that is not very expensive.  The differences between the RAMs is so minimal, it is not noticeable.  If you ever do a multi GPU setup, then higher frequencies will give you better results.  If all you do is gaming, you only need 8GB of RAM.

Hey guys, I'm new to this website and I don't have much knowledge with RAMs, well with all computers hardwares to be honest......but I know stuff. Aaaaanyway, I'm planning on building a gaming pc and I'm figuring out the parts that I want. I'm trying to figure out which RAM is compatible with an Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z. Here's the motherboard:

 

http://www.asus.com/ca-en/ROG_ROG/CROSSHAIR_V_FORMULAZ/

 

 

It says that it supports 2400+ RAMs, does that mean it supports RAMs 2400 MHz or above? Or it supports RAMs within some kind of range. When I was looking for RAMs, I could not find any that is compatible with AM3+. I don't know the relationship between RAMs and Motherboards and CPUs, so if anyone is kind enough to share some knowledge, please do. Also, all the RAMs I saw said that it's compatible with Intel chipsets, but I saw people say that it works best with that kind of chipsets/sockets. I probably don't even know what I'm saying, so please somebody help me T_T Also if anyone can recommend a good RAM, please do tell me. I don't have any kind of budget limit or anything, but I prefer ones that aren't too expensive but not that cheap either or ones that have good price-performance. Also the CPU I picked is the AMD FX-8350. Thanks, and please clarify whatever mistake/confusion is in my post. If the whole post is a mistake, then........ok.

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What is your budget?  Where are you located?  What is the machine being used for?  If Gaming, what specific games?  If workstation, what specific programs?

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What is your budget?  Where are you located?  What is the machine being used for?  If Gaming, what specific games?  If workstation, what specific programs?

I don't really have a limit on my budget, I just pick parts and save up for that part, same for everything, I do stuff bit by bit. I'm in Canada. I'll mostly use the pc for games. I know the FX-8350 might not be the best CPU for this kind of setup, but it's my current CPU right now on this stock computer and I like it. Also if there's a better CPU you had in mind, please do share. I also have a just in case mindset, so that's why I picked this CPU. For games, well I haven't really planned which games I'm gonna be playing, and I don't play much games on this stock pc because it's terrible. But I'd like to play all or most games in High-Ultra settings.

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the games in questions 

 

what are they?

 

IMO the Crosshair Formula Z is way overpriced and cost as much as a Z97 Intel board

 

and Intel these days perform much better than the FX8350 even if the latter is OC to crazy speeds

 

pick a I5 4690K and a Z97 board with support for SLi

 

and then pick a R9 290 and later CrossFire it for 1440P Ultra gaming

 

pick a good 850 Watts PSU and you are done

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the games in questions

what are they?

IMO the Crosshair Formula Z is way overpriced and cost as much as a Z97 Intel board

and Intel these days perform much better than the FX8350 even if the latter is OC to crazy speeds

pick a I5 4690K and a Z97 board with support for SLi

and then pick a R9 290 and later CrossFire it for 1440P Ultra gaming

pick a good 850 Watts PSU and you are done

I don't have a lot of games on my current pc but I have BF4 on awful settings, skyrim on awful settings, TERA on awful settings, DotA 2 on good settings and other games. Is there an AMD CPU that is on almost equal level with Intel CPUs? I prefer to stay away from Intel as much as possible, no idea why but yeah. Also you said R9 290, but I thought AMD does not work with Intel, I don't know any of that stuff so please explain if possible. I had the R9 290 in mind too but was not originally planning on Crossfiring it, but seems like a good idea.

Edit: I also picked the V750 from Cooler Master

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X GPU: ASUS Strix Radeon R7 5700 XT OC Edition Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero RAM: G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 CL14 SSD: 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860 Cooling: NZXT Kraken X72 Case: Corsair Crystal Series 570X Mirror Black Display: BenQ XL2420Z  Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB Cherry MX Blue Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Audio: Logitech G633 Artemis Spectrum

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I don't really have a limit on my budget, I just pick parts and save up for that part, same for everything, I do stuff bit by bit. I'm in Canada. I'll mostly use the pc for games. I know the FX-8350 might not be the best CPU for this kind of setup, but it's my current CPU right now on this stock computer and I like it. Also if there's a better CPU you had in mind, please do share. I also have a just in case mindset, so that's why I picked this CPU. For games, well I haven't really planned which games I'm gonna be playing, and I don't play much games on this stock pc because it's terrible. But I'd like to play all or most games in High-Ultra settings.

If your primary purpose is gaming, go with Intel.  The FX doesn't play some games very well, so better you go with Intel so you don't have to worry if certain games will not play as well if you bought the FX instead.  Games like Skyrim, Diablo, LoL, any MMO, DayZ, Starcraft, etc.. do not run well on AMD.  Also, for the FX to even match the stock speeds on Intel, it has to be overclocked to 4.8Ghz+, and in order to achieve that, you will need more expensive motherboards and cooling, which would end up costing the same as an Intel processor.  This is not the case with Intel, Intel and overclocking is completely up to luck of the chip.

 

I think this is a good starting off point, let me know what you think:

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/RJyZXL

Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/RJyZXL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ NCIX)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($23.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Canada Computers)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($89.99 @ Memory Express)

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Canada Computers)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($389.99 @ NCIX)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.99 @ NCIX)

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($126.99 @ NCIX)

Total: $1273.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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I don't have a lot of games on my current pc but I have BF4 on awful settings, skyrim on awful settings, TERA on awful settings, DotA 2 on good settings and other games. Is there an AMD CPU that is on almost equal level with Intel CPUs? I prefer to stay away from Intel as much as possible, no idea why but yeah. Also you said R9 290, but I thought AMD does not work with Intel, I don't know any of that stuff so please explain if possible. I had the R9 290 in mind too but was not originally planning on Crossfiring it, but seems like a good idea.

Edit: I also picked the V750 from Cooler Master

the AMD CPU that is even close to the i5 is only the FX9590 but that CPU should not exist

 

who told you you cannot use Intel CPU with a AMD GPU???

 

tell that guy that is BS

 

i can even mix AMD CPU with Geforce and it runs normally

 

you bought that PSU already?

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I don't have a lot of games on my current pc but I have BF4 on awful settings, skyrim on awful settings, TERA on awful settings, DotA 2 on good settings and other games. Is there an AMD CPU that is on almost equal level with Intel CPUs? I prefer to stay away from Intel as much as possible, no idea why but yeah. Also you said R9 290, but I thought AMD does not work with Intel, I don't know any of that stuff so please explain if possible. I had the R9 290 in mind too but was not originally planning on Crossfiring it, but seems like a good idea.

Edit: I also picked the V750 from Cooler Master

The reason you cannot run Skyrim, TERA, and DOTA well is because of your FX processor.  Those games play terrible on FX chips because they require strong cores, which is what Intel provides.  If you like to play MMOs, then Intel is the answer.  Even an i3 is better than anything AMD has to offer because of the way those games are designed.  Intel can be used with AMD, I am not sure where that misconception comes from, but it is common, so don't feel bad.  The R9 290 is probably the best high end GPU on the market because of its price to performance offering, and its ability to scale to higher resolutions better.  Also, comes with 3 free games.  You won't need to crossfire, and it is always a better idea to get a single, stronger GPU than 2 weaker ones.  If you ever decide to go Ultra 4k, then Crossfire will be necessary.  You could do 1440p without problems using a single R9 290.

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this is the all out version with dual 290s

 

 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($23.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($134.81 @ DirectCanada) 
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($86.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($409.99 @ NCIX) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($409.99 @ NCIX) 
Case: Cooler Master N600 Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1665.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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single 290 Tri-X is $1255 bucks
 
any games including Crysis 3 is no problem for this rig
 
dual 290s will just stomp any single GPU like the 780Ti for almost the same price

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If your primary purpose is gaming, go with Intel.  The FX doesn't play some games very well, so better you go with Intel so you don't have to worry if certain games will not play as well if you bought the FX instead.  Games like Skyrim, Diablo, LoL, any MMO, DayZ, Starcraft, etc.. do not run well on AMD.  Also, for the FX to even match the stock speeds on Intel, it has to be overclocked to 4.8Ghz+, and in order to achieve that, you will need more expensive motherboards and cooling, which would end up costing the same as an Intel processor.  This is not the case with Intel, Intel and overclocking is completely up to luck of the chip.

 

I think this is a good starting off point, let me know what you think:

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/RJyZXL

Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/RJyZXL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ NCIX)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($23.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Canada Computers)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($89.99 @ Memory Express)

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Canada Computers)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($389.99 @ NCIX)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.99 @ NCIX)

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($126.99 @ NCIX)

Total: $1273.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-18 02:44 EDT-0400

 

 

the AMD CPU that is even close to the i5 is only the FX9590 but that CPU should not exist

 

who told you you cannot use Intel CPU with a AMD GPU???

 

tell that guy that is BS

 

i can even mix AMD CPU with Geforce and it runs normally

 

you bought that PSU already?

 

I haven't bought any parts yet, I'm still at the picking and deciding part

 

The reason you cannot run Skyrim, TERA, and DOTA well is because of your FX processor.  Those games play terrible on FX chips because they require strong cores, which is what Intel provides.  If you like to play MMOs, then Intel is the answer.  Even an i3 is better than anything AMD has to offer because of the way those games are designed.  Intel can be used with AMD, I am not sure where that misconception comes from, but it is common, so don't feel bad.  The R9 290 is probably the best high end GPU on the market because of its price to performance offering, and its ability to scale to higher resolutions better.  Also, comes with 3 free games.  You won't need to crossfire, and it is always a better idea to get a single, stronger GPU than 2 weaker ones.  If you ever decide to go Ultra 4k, then Crossfire will be necessary.  You could do 1440p without problems using a single R9 290.

 

The current GPU on this stock pc is only a 7570, so yeah.

 

 

this is the all out version with dual 290s

 

 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($23.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($134.81 @ DirectCanada) 
Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($86.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($409.99 @ NCIX) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($409.99 @ NCIX) 
Case: Cooler Master N600 Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1665.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-18 03:09 EDT-0400
 
single 290 Tri-X is $1255 bucks
 
any games including Crysis 3 is no problem for this rig
 
dual 290s will just stomp any single GPU like the 780Ti for almost the same price

 

 

Uhm, I've decided on a red and black color scheme for the system and the only motherboard brand that I know and trust (mostly know) is ASUS, so Maximus, Rampage, and Crosshair. For the graphics card, I picked the MSI Radeon R9 290. For the case I picked the NZXT H440 but I'm probably gonna have to change that to something in Corsair. I don't know which Intel CPU is good though. And also the RAM, I don't know what to get.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X GPU: ASUS Strix Radeon R7 5700 XT OC Edition Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero RAM: G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 CL14 SSD: 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860 Cooling: NZXT Kraken X72 Case: Corsair Crystal Series 570X Mirror Black Display: BenQ XL2420Z  Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB Cherry MX Blue Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Audio: Logitech G633 Artemis Spectrum

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TERA, Skyrim, and DOTA are CPU bound games, you could have a best GPU on the market paired with an FX processor and you are still going to get bad results.  You need an Intel processor if you play games like that and want to experience them to the fullest.

 

For gaming, the Intel processor that you want is the i5-4690k paired with a Z97 Motherboard.  For Intel, motherboard doesn't impact performance, its all about what features it comes with.  RoG line of motherboards may look nice, but they are criminally overpriced.  Stay with Asus, but get a Z97-A or Z97-AR.  It comes with the same features, but with a different color scheme.  If you are dead set on doing the most overdone red/black color scheme, then spent the extra money on your RoG motherboard.

 

RAM has very little impact on gaming performance.  Get the least expensive kit of 8GB that appeals to you.  The way to tell which RAM is better than others is by dividing the first number of the CL/CAS latency by the Mhz(frequency).  For example: 9 / 1600 = .005625  Lower is better/faster.

 

Case, the H440 is a nice looking case, and would fit your color scheme but it doesn't have any 5.25 bays, and it has very bad airflow.  I again recommend the Phanteks Enthoo Pro.  It is the best case on the market.  If you want to add some color, you could always buy some inexpensive LED strips.

 

R9 290 is a fantastic GPU, you will be very pleased with it.  Stay away from the Asus R9 290 though, that model has heat problems.  The MSI model is a good one.

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TERA, Skyrim, and DOTA are CPU bound games, you could have a best GPU on the market paired with an FX processor and you are still going to get bad results.  You need an Intel processor if you play games like that and want to experience them to the fullest.

 

For gaming, the Intel processor that you want is the i5-4690k paired with a Z97 Motherboard.  For Intel, motherboard doesn't impact performance, its all about what features it comes with.  RoG line of motherboards may look nice, but they are criminally overpriced.  Stay with Asus, but get a Z97-A or Z97-AR.  It comes with the same features, but with a different color scheme.  If you are dead set on doing the most overdone red/black color scheme, then spent the extra money on your RoG motherboard.

 

RAM has very little impact on gaming performance.  Get the least expensive kit of 8GB that appeals to you.  The way to tell which RAM is better than others is by dividing the first number of the CL/CAS latency by the Mhz(frequency).  For example: 9 / 1600 = .005625  Lower is better/faster.

 

Case, the H440 is a nice looking case, and would fit your color scheme but it doesn't have any 5.25 bays, and it has very bad airflow.  I again recommend the Phanteks Enthoo Pro.  It is the best case on the market.  If you want to add some color, you could always buy some inexpensive LED strips.

 

R9 290 is a fantastic GPU, you will be very pleased with it.  Stay away from the Asus R9 290 though, that model has heat problems.  The MSI model is a good one.

 

Yeah, when it comes to stuff like this I don't mind it being overkill, also I like having a clean looking system (you can probably call that OCD). Which Maximus would be the best choice for this setup? I don't mind the price. I also just checked out the case at Hardware Canucks and it's awesome and very affordable, so yeah, gonna scrap H440 and go for the Enthoo Pro. 

 

Thanks!

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Yeah, when it comes to stuff like this I don't mind it being overkill, also I like having a clean looking system (you can probably call that OCD). Which Maximus would be the best choice for this setup? I don't mind the price. I also just checked out the case at Hardware Canucks and it's awesome and very affordable, so yeah, gonna scrap H440 and go for the Enthoo Pro. 

 

Thanks!

Nice choice, the Enthoo Pro is incredibly, and as they said in that video, it is now the standard that all other cases should be compared to.  I own it myself and it is the best case I have ever used.  The customer service is incredible too.  My window arrived very scratched up on the inside because the toolbox came loose during shipping, I sent in a ticket, within 12 hours I had a response, a phone call, and a new window sent my way, free of charge. 

 

I don't know which RoG motherboard will best suit your needs, its a features and personal preference thing.

 

In terms of appearance, the Asus Maximus VII Formula is far and away the most aesthetically pleasing, but stupid expensive.  Hopefully this video can help explain how motherboards don't impact performance:

 

Other nice motherboards are the Z97-AR // Z97 Sabertooth // Z97 Maximus VII Hero

 

If you are willing to spend that much money on a motherboard, might as well get an i7-4790k also.

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Nice choice, the Enthoo Pro is incredibly, and as they said in that video, it is now the standard that all other cases should be compared to.  I own it myself and it is the best case I have ever used.  The customer service is incredible too.  My window arrived very scratched up on the inside because the toolbox came loose during shipping, I sent in a ticket, within 12 hours I had a response, a phone call, and a new window sent my way, free of charge. 

 

I don't know which RoG motherboard will best suit your needs, its a features and personal preference thing.

 

In terms of appearance, the Asus Maximus VII Formula is far and away the most aesthetically pleasing, but stupid expensive.  Hopefully this video can help explain how motherboards don't impact performance:

 

Other nice motherboards are the Z97-AR // Z97 Sabertooth // Z97 Maximus VII Hero

 

If you are willing to spend that much money on a motherboard, might as well get an i7-4790k also.

 

Thanks for the video, and it's decided, Maximus VII Hero. I'll stay with the i5-4690k because people say that an i5 is enough for that kind of stuff. Now for the RAM, how do I figure out which RAM is compatible with the motherboard and which specs of the RAM should I take into consideration?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X GPU: ASUS Strix Radeon R7 5700 XT OC Edition Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero RAM: G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200 CL14 SSD: 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860 Cooling: NZXT Kraken X72 Case: Corsair Crystal Series 570X Mirror Black Display: BenQ XL2420Z  Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB Cherry MX Blue Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Audio: Logitech G633 Artemis Spectrum

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Thanks for the video, and it's decided, Maximus VII Hero. I'll stay with the i5-4690k because people say that an i5 is enough for that kind of stuff. Now for the RAM, how do I figure out which RAM is compatible with the motherboard and which specs of the RAM should I take into consideration?

Do you live near a Microcenter by chance?  If so, you can get an Intel CPU + Motherboard for an incredibly low bundle price.

 

For RAM, it is all compatible with that motherboard.  The specs of the RAM to be taken into consideration are the CAS or CL and the Frequency.  The Frequency is shown in Mhz and the CAS/CL is shown as a number.  Mhz = higher is better, CAS/CL = lower is better.  You want to find a sweet spot, because as Mhz rises, CAS rises also.  To figure out which RAM is the fastest, you use the equation: CL divided by Mhz.  Lower is better.  1600Mhz, 9-9-9-24, 1.5v is the standard, but you can find performance RAM for around the same price or $5 more if you keep your eyes peeled for deals on Newegg.  I recently bought an 8GB(4GBx2) kit of 2400Mhz, 10CL RAM for $76, just check often for sales.

 

Here I will show you a few options, none of which are currently on sale.

1866Mhz & 9CL

2133Mhz & 9CL

2133Mhz & 9CL

2400Mhz & 10CL

 

Here is a video from Linus explaining high speed RAM.  He explains that it is not really worth it, but I would argue that if you can find some performance RAM for roughly the same price as the standard 1600Mhz/9CL stuff, go with the performance RAM.

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Do you live near a Microcenter by chance?  If so, you can get an Intel CPU + Motherboard for an incredibly low bundle price.

 

For RAM, it is all compatible with that motherboard.  The specs of the RAM to be taken into consideration are the CAS or CL and the Frequency.  The Frequency is shown in Mhz and the CAS/CL is shown as a number.  Mhz = higher is better, CAS/CL = lower is better.  You want to find a sweet spot, because as Mhz rises, CAS rises also.  To figure out which RAM is the fastest, you use the equation: CL divided by Mhz.  Lower is better.  1600Mhz, 9-9-9-24, 1.5v is the standard, but you can find performance RAM for around the same price or $5 more if you keep your eyes peeled for deals on Newegg.  I recently bought an 8GB(4GBx2) kit of 2400Mhz, 10CL RAM for $76, just check often for sales.

 

Here I will show you a few options, none of which are currently on sale.

1866Mhz & 9CL

2133Mhz & 9CL

2133Mhz & 9CL

2400Mhz & 10CL

 

Here is a video from Linus explaining high speed RAM.  He explains that it is not really worth it, but I would argue that if you can find some performance RAM for roughly the same price as the standard 1600Mhz/9CL stuff, go with the performance RAM.

 

No I don't live near a Microcenter shop but I do live near a computer shop, Memory Express. I just saw that video btw right before the other reply that's why I figured 1866 is good enough, but then there's the CL stuff so I don't know if CL9 or 10 and I don't know which frequency-CL is good. I do understand the lower is better and the calculation part but I don't know if there's a specific range of frequencies within that CL.

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No I don't live near a Microcenter shop but I do live near a computer shop, Memory Express. I just saw that video btw right before the other reply that's why I figured 1866 is good enough, but then there's the CL stuff so I don't know if CL9 or 10 and I don't know which frequency-CL is good. I do understand the lower is better and the calculation part but I don't know if there's a specific range of frequencies within that CL.

Its simple, you divide the first number of the CAS by the frequency.  Thats it.  The lower the number, the better/faster the RAM.

 

I like to multiply the number I get by 2000, to make it a larger number which is easier to read.  example: (9 / 1600) * 2000 = 11.25

Here are some common ones:

 

1600 / 9 = 11.25

2133 / 10 = 9.37

1600 / 7 = 8.75

1866 / 8 = 8.57

2133 / 9 = 8.43

2400 / 10 = 8.33

2400 / 9 = 7.5

 

Find the RAM that has the aesthetic you want, that is not very expensive.  The differences between the RAMs is so minimal, it is not noticeable.  If you ever do a multi GPU setup, then higher frequencies will give you better results.  If all you do is gaming, you only need 8GB of RAM.

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Its simple, you divide the first number of the CAS by the frequency.  Thats it.  The lower the number, the better/faster the RAM.

 

I like to multiply the number I get by 2000, to make it a larger number which is easier to read.  example: (9 / 1600) * 2000 = 11.25

Here are some common ones:

 

1600 / 9 = 11.25

2133 / 10 = 9.37

1600 / 7 = 8.75

1866 / 8 = 8.57

2133 / 9 = 8.43

2400 / 10 = 8.33

2400 / 9 = 7.5

 

Find the RAM that has the aesthetic you want, that is not very expensive.  The differences between the RAMs is so minimal, it is not noticeable.  If you ever do a multi GPU setup, then higher frequencies will give you better results.  If all you do is gaming, you only need 8GB of RAM.

 

I found some. Need help picking:

 

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46069

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231638

 

Thanks btw for sharing some knowledge about RAMs.

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I found some. Need help picking:

 

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46069

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231638

 

Thanks btw for sharing some knowledge about RAMs.

The second stuff is some serious, heavy duty performance RAM.  2400Mhz CL9 is no joke.  The RAM fan is really not necessary, and is often very loud.  You would be paying a lot more for gains that you wont notice if you're just gaming.  Go with the 1866Mhz stuff is my advice.  Alternatively, you should wait, subscribe to the email deals from Newegg and hopefully some 2400 CL10 stuff will go on sale.  I picked up this kit for only $76 three weeks ago. Be patient and some red/black RAM will go on sale for about the same price.

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The second stuff is some serious, heavy duty performance RAM.  2400Mhz CL9 is no joke.  The RAM fan is really not necessary, and is often very loud.  You would be paying a lot more for gains that you wont notice if you're just gaming.  Go with the 1866Mhz stuff is my advice.  Alternatively, you should wait, subscribe to the email deals from Newegg and hopefully some 2400 CL10 stuff will go on sale.  I picked up this kit for only $76 three weeks ago. Be patient and some red/black RAM will go on sale for about the same price.

 

Thank you very much :D

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Thank you very much :D

Happy to help!

 

By the way, this really good AIO Liquid Cooler is on sale from Newegg.  Cooler Master Seidon 240M  I would go ahead and buy that now before the sale ends.  Use the VCO code and pay with Visa Checkout for additional 10% off.

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