Amd vs Intel

[cam_96]

I'm trying to fit a 780ti into my rig but Intel is so expensive. I'm wondering if I should get an AMD CPU (and what should I get) so it doesn't bottleneck the 780ti. Please help me, thanks. http://pcpartpicker.com/user/godlycam/saved/2bjNnQ

[wildy]

get a i5 refresh .

heard that they overclock better

[79wjd]

Get windows from g2a.com and save $70. 

Stick with the stock cooler until you're ready to oc. 

Get the Hyper 212 if you're not going to oc too hard. 

Get a 500w psu since 650 is an awkward size. Its too big for one gpu but too small for two. 

[cam_96]

Get windows from g2a.com and save $70.

Stick with the stock cooler until you're ready to oc.

Get the Hyper 212 if you're not going to oc too hard.

What about 4ghz

@cam_96

Are you sure that you're going to OC?

Yes, not too much though

[79wjd]

What about 4ghz

Hyper 212 should be fine

[PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($238.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($132.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.91 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card  ($679.99 @ Micro Center) 

Case: Inwin GT1 White ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 

Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Micro Center) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($21.00) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Total: $1385.82

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[cam_96]

Get windows from g2a.com and save $70.

Stick with the stock cooler until you're ready to oc.

Get the Hyper 212 if you're not going to oc too hard.

Get a 500w psu since 650 is an awkward size. Its too big for one gpu but too small for two.

Not necessarily going to go sli, but if I do I would get a better PSU to go with it

[PcBlackBelt]

depends if your looking for best performance in most areas intel with a lil bump in cost.

if your looking for good price to performance amd.

 

seeing how you went for the 780ti

you obviously willing to pay for the extra performance if i was buying right now intel i7-4790k

 

if you have a sandy-bridge or higher right now and can wait 6 months do that, wait 6 months for the new cpus to come out. if you need it now right above

[cam_96]

Hyper 212 should be fine

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($132.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($679.99 @ Micro Center)

Case: Inwin GT1 White ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)

Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Micro Center)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($34.99 @ Micro Center)

Total: $1454.80

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

What about the 212 fitting in the case and the PSU being too small?

[79wjd]

What about the 212 fitting in the case and the PSU being too small?

I'm not sure if it would fit...can't seem to find the height clearance on it.

You can always just spend a bit more and get an h80. 550w will be more than enough for a single gpu, but if you wanted to SLI, you'd really want 750w+. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($238.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($132.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.91 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card  ($679.99 @ Micro Center) 

Case: Inwin GT1 White ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 

Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Micro Center) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($21.00) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Total: $1385.82

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[Thony]

Get a 500w psu since 650 is an awkward size. Its too big for one gpu but too small for two. 

Dont listen to this, since when does "awkward"  play a role in building a gaming cpu ?!

500w is not enough when you plan to OC the processor and possibly GPU (linus/luke suggest everyone does, its free performance). The GPU on its own can eat 330w at stock http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1036

Btw, in your post cam_96 you mention "GTX 780ti" but u got "GTX 780" in your build list. "780ti" is more powerful and too expensive. Unless you going to stream and earn the money back I would stay with just 780.

 

[79wjd]

Dont listen to this, since when does "awkward"  play a role in building a gaming cpu ?!

500w is not enough when you plan to OC the processor and possibly GPU (linus/luke suggest everyone does, its free performance). The GPU on its own can eat 330w at stock http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1036

550w is more than enough, even 500 would be enough. 

[Faa]

This is a much better build
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($218.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($71.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($76.50 @ Newegg) 

Storage: PNY XLR8 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($52.91 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB OC Video Card  ($625.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Case: Inwin GT1 White ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Total: $1331.29

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[Faceman]

Don't get the Ti.  Ti is $100-$200 more expensive than the 780, and it is only 10-15% better performance.  Just not good price to performance.

[79wjd]

Don't get the Ti.  Ti is $100-$200 more expensive than the 780, and it is only 10-15% better performance.  Just not good price to performance.

Thats the very nature of high end cards...similar can be said about 780 vs 770. Not that I really disagree, I opted for a 780 over a 780ti myself. 

[Faceman]

Thats the very nature of high end cards...similar can be said about 780 vs 770. Not that I really disagree, I opted for a 780 over a 780ti myself.

mmm no. The performance difference between a 770 and 780 is closer to 25%, which falls more in line with the price difference. The best high end card in my opinion is the R9 290. They are very close to a 780 in terms of performance, you can find them for $350-$400, and they come with 3 free games. The only downside is they run hotter than 780s.

Here is my attempt, I do recommend switching to an R9 290 if you would like to save some money, if not the 780 is a fantastic GPU, I own one myself:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F4c3mG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F4c3mG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($200.00) <-- In-store at Microcenter, Or you can use Staples.com Price Match feature to get it shipped to you. To do this, you have to call or live chat and show them this link.

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ NCIX US)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)

Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($71.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($479.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: Inwin GT1 White ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)

Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Micro Center) <-- Good quality PSU for cheap.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($35.00) <-- Here is a link to get Windows 8.1 for $35

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($34.99 @ Micro Center)

Total: $1176.34

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[cam_96]

I might go with either the Gigabyte windforce 780 or the MSI gaming editon

[79wjd]

I might go with either the Gigabyte windforce 780 or the MSI gaming editon

Don't underestimate evga, they make a great gpu and they have excellent support.

[cam_96]

Don't underestimate evga, they make a great gpu and they have excellent support.

Yeah, I want the MSI to match the z97 gaming board and red gskill ram + my case

[cam_96]

Dont listen to this, since when does "awkward" play a role in building a gaming cpu ?!

500w is not enough when you plan to OC the processor and possibly GPU (linus/luke suggest everyone does, its free performance). The GPU on its own can eat 330w at stock http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1036

Btw, in your post cam_96 you mention "GTX 780ti" but u got "GTX 780" in your build list. "780ti" is more powerful and too expensive. Unless you going to stream and earn the money back I would stay with just 780.

Possibly recording Minecraft/other games