CPU PROBLEM

[panukla]

Hello guys, i recently bought thr rx 9070xt. For cpu i have the ryzen 5 5600x, i know i would have bottleneck and i was saving up to upgrading to AM5. Although fate had other plans and ram and ssd prices skyrocketed. I wanna do an upgrade to my pc and i am thinking to get a better am4 cpu. Tell me your opinions.

[Millios]

For gaming, a 5700x3d or 5800x3d and that is about it.

[Hinjima]

23 minutes ago, panukla said:

Hello guys, i recently bought thr rx 9070xt. For cpu i have the ryzen 5 5600x, i know i would have bottleneck and i was saving up to upgrading to AM5. Although fate had other plans and ram and ssd prices skyrocketed. I wanna do an upgrade to my pc and i am thinking to get a better am4 cpu. Tell me your opinions.

The only worthy upgrade is a 5700X3D or 5800X3D.

For 1440p, the 5600x is actually plenty good enough with a 9070 XT:

[Ha-Satan]

Honestly, unless you can find a used 5700X3D or 5800X3D for a reasonable price (like under $300 USD), I would just stick with the 5600X. It's not like your PC is going to blow up if you are CPU-limited. 

 

If you have a CPU bottleneck and can't maintain a consistent frame rate, using a frame capper like that found in RTSS and capping to a frame rate you can mostly hit consistently will usually help make the game feel better. When you're CPU-limited, a capped consistent frame rate is often more pleasant than a frame rate with a higher average but big frame time swings.

 

If you then find yourself with a ton of extra GPU headroom because of the capped frame rate, you can increase image quality using Virtual Super Resolution to get more out of your GPU.

[panukla]

46 minutes ago, Millios said:

For gaming, a 5700x3d or 5800x3d and that is about it.

if i get the non 3d versions ? because in greece is hard to find them and expensive

 

[panukla]

32 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

The only worthy upgrade is a 5700X3D or 5800X3D.

For 1440p, the 5600x is actually plenty good enough with a 9070 XT:

i am in 1080p i dont know if its worth going to 1440p atm

 

[panukla]

30 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

Honestly, unless you can find a used 5700X3D or 5800X3D for a reasonable price (like under $300 USD), I would just stick with the 5600X. It's not like your PC is going to blow up if you are CPU-limited. 

 

If you have a CPU bottleneck and can't maintain a consistent frame rate, using a frame capper like that found in RTSS and capping to a frame rate you can mostly hit consistently will usually help make the game feel better. When you're CPU-limited, a capped consistent frame rate is often more pleasant than a frame rate with a higher average but big frame time swings.

 

If you then find yourself with a ton of extra GPU headroom because of the capped frame rate, you can increase image quality using Virtual Super Resolution to get more out of your GPU.

what is Virtual Super Resolution

[Fasauceome]

The 5600X is a pretty reasonable pairing for the 9070 XT, I would not be too concerned about bottlenecks unless you are having a specific performance problem in a game you play often. 

[panukla]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

The 5600X is a pretty reasonable pairing for the 9070 XT, I would not be too concerned about bottlenecks unless you are having a specific performance problem in a game you play often. 

for example i paly bf6 and my gpu can go up to 240 fps in low settings in 1080p and my cpu is at 110 fps

 

[Millios]

8 minutes ago, panukla said:

if i get the non 3d versions ? because in greece is hard to find them and expensive

 

Imo not as worth it.

And ik their prices, they can be found for 200-250 euros 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, panukla said:

for example i paly bf6 and my gpu can go up to 240 fps in low settings in 1080p and my cpu is at 110 fps

 

What speed of ram are you currently using?

 

As the others have mentioned, the only practical upgrade for you would probably be the X3D processors. If you go with the 5700X, or something similar, you would have more cores but it would not result in a very large performance boost. From the benchmarks I have seen, the 5700X performance is similar to 5600X in battlefield 6

[panukla]

3 minutes ago, Millios said:

Imo not as worth it.

And ik their prices, they can be found for 200-250 euros 

in what sites

 

[panukla]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

What speed of ram are you currently using?

 

As the others have mentioned, the only practical upgrade for you would probably be the X3D processors. If you go with the 5700X, or something similar, you would have more cores but it would not result in a very large performance boost. From the benchmarks I have seen, the 5700X performance is similar to 5600X in battlefield 6

2 x 8 gb ddr4 3000mhz

[Fasauceome]

Just now, panukla said:

2 x 8 gb ddr4 3000mhz

You would benefit from faster ram. Ryzen CPUs depend on ram speed for core-to-core communication. If you get some DDR4 3600, that would improve your CPU performance a little. 

[panukla]

6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

You would benefit from faster ram. Ryzen CPUs depend on ram speed for core-to-core communication. If you get some DDR4 3600, that would improve your CPU performance a little. 

yeah but they are expensive 

[Millios]

9 minutes ago, panukla said:

in what sites

 

Eshop.gr and skroutz.gr.

Tho you need to wait for them to return to stock cause sales and they have fake scarcity.

[Fasauceome]

41 minutes ago, panukla said:

yeah but they are expensive 

more expensive than a new CPU?

[panukla]

38 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

more expensive than a new CPU?

200 euros 

 

[Ha-Satan]

1 hour ago, panukla said:

what is Virtual Super Resolution

It's a setting that allows you to run the game at a resolution that's higher than your monitor's resolution, and then downsample to your output res. This will improve image quality - basically it's really effective anti-aliasing. 

 

It's kind of the opposite of upscaling (DLSS/FSR).

 

1 hour ago, panukla said:

for example i paly bf6 and my gpu can go up to 240 fps in low settings in 1080p and my cpu is at 110 fps

 

And 110 fps is still great performance! Just use VSR to crank the res scale, turn off the frame counter, and enjoy the game.

 

You're already having a perfectly good gaming experience. Don't let FOMO make you spend a bunch of money on inflated-price hardware when the actual subjective difference it makes won't be that significant.

[panukla]

1 minute ago, Ha-Satan said:

It's a setting that allows you to run the game at a resolution that's higher than your monitor's resolution, and then downsample to your output res. This will improve image quality - basically it's really effective anti-aliasing. 

 

It's kind of the opposite of upscaling (DLSS/FSR).

 

And 110 fps is still great performance! Just use VSR to crank the res scale, turn off the frame counter, and enjoy the game.

 

You're already having a perfectly good gaming experience. Don't let FOMO make you spend a bunch of money on inflated-price hardware when the actual subjective difference it makes won't be that significant.

so should i get a new 1440p monitor

[Ha-Satan]

1 minute ago, panukla said:

so should i get a new 1440p monitor

If you're still playing at 1080p and you're really itching to upgrade something, yes, I'd probably upgrade the monitor

[panukla]

Just now, Ha-Satan said:

If you're still playing at 1080p and you're really itching to upgrade something, yes, I'd probably upgrade the monitor

do you have any recommendation or a link for monitor. i am looking to spend top 250 euros

[Ha-Satan]

Just now, panukla said:

do you have any recommendation or a link for monitor. i am looking to spend top 250 euros

Honestly no, it's been ages since I paid any attention to the monitor market. I'd just go search "1440p monitors" on rtings and try to find one that's available in your price range and has good ratings on that website.

[panukla]

Just now, Ha-Satan said:

Honestly no, it's been ages since I paid any attention to the monitor market. I'd just go search "1440p monitors" on rtings and try to find one that's available in your price range and has good ratings on that website.

alright thanks for your help