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51 minutes ago, fudgecakes999 said:

Building my first pc and need some advice on a cheap m.2 drive, need it for game or file storage, want it to be cheap but reliable, looking for the best options in 1tb and 2tb.thanks.based in the uk so uk prices.

it's better to purchase even something as cheap as a silicon power gen3 or gen4 instead of crap from an unknown brand that's coinflip on reliablility and overall quality  

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5 hours ago, Dutch_Master said:

On Aliexpress, look at Kingspec or GoldenFir. Chinese, DRAM-less, but pretty cheap. Usual disclaimers and warnings apply!

absolutely do not do this 

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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58 minutes ago, danalog said:

absolutely do not do this

Elaborate? I have drives from both, actual spec's as advertised.

 

The one thing you shouldn't fall for is multi-TB drives for nearly free, those are indeed a scam (I tested one very cheap 4TB drive which actually held just 256GB, warned Aliexpress with evidence and I got refunded, so I have a free 256GB drive 😛 ). I mean, do you really think a 16TB SATA SSD for 41 bucks is realistic? :old-eyeroll:

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7 minutes ago, Dutch_Master said:

Elaborate? I have drives from both, actual spec's as advertised.

 

The one thing you shouldn't fall for is multi-TB drives for nearly free, those are indeed a scam (I tested one very cheap 4TB drive which actually held just 256GB, warned Aliexpress with evidence and I got refunded, so I have a free 256GB drive 😛 ). I mean, do you really think a 16TB SATA SSD for 41 bucks is realistic? :old-eyeroll:

no doubt that those disks "works" the issue is the quality of the components and the longevity which are almost surely awful in both sides. also you're storing your data in something that could break betwen 1 and 4 years depending on luck just to save a couple bucks, is it worth? absolutely NOT. 

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               -+oooooo+:                Packages: Only what i need to keep it simple
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39 minutes ago, Dutch_Master said:

Elaborate? I have drives from both, actual spec's as advertised.

 

The one thing you shouldn't fall for is multi-TB drives for nearly free, those are indeed a scam (I tested one very cheap 4TB drive which actually held just 256GB, warned Aliexpress with evidence and I got refunded, so I have a free 256GB drive 😛 ). I mean, do you really think a 16TB SATA SSD for 41 bucks is realistic? :old-eyeroll:

My family had a couple modded Chromeboxes with these cheapo SSDs we'd put in them for more storage. A few years later and they were so slow they were unusable and the data was pretty much toast. 

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9 hours ago, Dutch_Master said:

On Aliexpress, look at Kingspec or GoldenFir. Chinese, DRAM-less, but pretty cheap. Usual disclaimers and warnings apply!

I bought a Kingspec SSD, lasted 5 weeks, worked one day, completely dead the next, lost everything on it  YAAHH!!!!

 

@fudgecakes999

remember, you tend to get what you pay for. 

I second the WD blue SSD. I have one and it's been solid so far.

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I would recommend hop on eBay and get an enterprise grade SSD used..... insane reliability, super huge DRAM caches, low prices. I got a 1.6TB Samsung with 8GB DRAM cache for about $80 recently, 200TB written and still at 100% endurance. However these do take up more room, either in the form of a x8 slot or longer NVMe.

Eg. if your board supports 22110 Samsung PM983 is a decent option.

But the WD Blue drives others are suggesting are generally great consumer drives. 

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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Everyone on here sleeping on the humble Teamgroup MP44L. They used to be a bit cheaper but they’re sitting at $70 right now for a terabyte and they are very good drives. 

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1 hour ago, spacepickle said:

Everyone on here sleeping on the humble Teamgroup MP44L. They used to be a bit cheaper but they’re sitting at $70 right now for a terabyte and they are very good drives. 

Because it’s mix of controllers and NAND, like 7 hardware version, all DRAMless, two of the version has chinese NAND in it, that has know problems, and can fail even with low P/E cycle. 

But one of the recent versions from 2025 is actually good (Phison E27T + 162l TLC Kioxia) so that is that. 

   
 
 
 
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