Used 7900xtx

[ProtonNeutronElectron]

should i buy a new 7900gre or used 7900xtx (i found one listed for 650 usd) the 7900xtx has no warranty or box

[y0ur5h4d0w]

what's the price for an RX9070XT at the moment? it's probably somewhat similiar to the xtx, if you want to upgrade i would go straight to the rx9070xt at this point honestly

[podkall]

Why are they selling 7900 XTX? The 9070 XT isn't that much better, just slightly + FSR4. Unless they bought like a 5090?

[y0ur5h4d0w]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

Why are they selling 7900 XTX? The 9070 XT isn't that much better, just slightly + FSR4. Unless they bought like a 5090?

they probably wanted to go full bleeding edge of tech and were interested about the latest FSR which i understand but to be honest i would have stayed on the XTX if i had the cash for a 7900 XTX lol i personally bought a 7800XT because it's probably more worth to wait for UDNA to launch and bring some true performances improvements

[ProtonNeutronElectron]

10 hours ago, podkall said:

Why are they selling 7900 XTX? The 9070 XT isn't that much better, just slightly + FSR4. Unless they bought like a 5090?

It’s a online reseller in my country but there trust worthy, bought a couple 6600s from there.

[ProtonNeutronElectron]

11 hours ago, y0ur5h4d0w said:

what's the price for an RX9070XT at the moment? it's probably somewhat similiar to the xtx, if you want to upgrade i would go straight to the rx9070xt at this point honestly

It’s about a hundred and twenty more expensive

[y0ur5h4d0w]

1 hour ago, a350xwb-pc said:

It’s about a hundred and twenty more expensive

which GPU do you have right now? the 9070XT is still better due to latest FSR support if you really want to buy something new but i would wait for udna if you have a reliable GPU at the moment

[podkall]

11 minutes ago, y0ur5h4d0w said:

which GPU do you have right now? the 9070XT is still better due to latest FSR support if you really want to buy something new but i would wait for udna if you have a reliable GPU at the moment

is it worth 100$+ though? I wouldn't say so personally, the 7900 XT has it's own qualities despite being gen behind of 9000 series, even though some of them can be niche or specific, they're there

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

is it worth 100$+ though? I wouldn't say so personally, the 7900 XT has it's own qualities despite being gen behind of 9000 series, even though some of them can be niche or specific, they're there

Not to mention, it is faster, if you forget about FSR 4 and driver updates that potentially skew this diff unless it gets updated (and 7900 XTX also receives driver updates)

 

[y0ur5h4d0w]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

Not to mention, it is faster, if you forget about FSR 4 and driver updates that potentially skew this diff unless it gets updated

 

depending on which GPU he has right now it could be worth, but i would still wait for UDNA to have a bigger leap tbh

[ProtonNeutronElectron]

20 minutes ago, y0ur5h4d0w said:

which GPU do you have right now? the 9070XT is still better due to latest FSR support if you really want to buy something new but i would wait for udna if you have a reliable GPU at the moment

I’ve got a 6600

[y0ur5h4d0w]

5 minutes ago, a350xwb-pc said:

I’ve got a 6600

that's challenging, you will gain an insane upgrade with both GPUs, they perform sort of the same, the only difference is that the 9070XT is the latest and greatest at the moment and it might get better and better in the future, but it's 100$ more.

 

which games do you want to play with your new card that right now with the 6600 you can't/don't run nicely? this might be the question that will give the answer to which is the better upgrade for you

[ProtonNeutronElectron]

14 minutes ago, y0ur5h4d0w said:

that's challenging, you will gain an insane upgrade with both GPUs, they perform sort of the same, the only difference is that the 9070XT is the latest and greatest at the moment and it might get better and better in the future, but it's 100$ more.

 

which games do you want to play with your new card that right now with the 6600 you can't/don't run nicely? this might be the question that will give the answer to which is the better upgrade for you

But the 7900xtx is faster right?

[y0ur5h4d0w]

4 minutes ago, a350xwb-pc said:

But the 7900xtx is faster right?

"faster" and "slower" is kinda hard to define, you can mesure the performances in games rather then mere benchmarks, just search on youtube for "7900XTX vs 9070XT" and you'll see the actual differences

 

what matter the most in your case is what games you want to play and at what resolution, graphics quality and framerate you want 

[podkall]

7 hours ago, y0ur5h4d0w said:

depending on which GPU he has right now it could be worth, but i would still wait for UDNA to have a bigger leap tbh

What bigger leap? The 7900 XTX is literally above 9070 XT

 

7 hours ago, a350xwb-pc said:

But the 7900xtx is faster right?

That depends how much do you care about upscaling and FSR4, or if you prefer running games natively or with less AI/frame-gen stuff

 

9070 XT might have stronger RT performance though, checking benchmarks or comparisons where RT games can appear can help with that decision if it's something you want/consider.

[y0ur5h4d0w]

8 minutes ago, podkall said:

What bigger leap? The 7900 XTX is literally above 9070 XT

you literally answered yourself below, new FSR, better ray tracing support, on paper the 7900XTX might look "better" but in the end it's not that "faster". as you can see in the head to head battle video there's not so much difference in the end of the day.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55DX21ErYjk

[podkall]

1 hour ago, y0ur5h4d0w said:

you literally answered yourself below, new FSR, better ray tracing support, on paper the 7900XTX might look "better" but in the end it's not that "faster". as you can see in the head to head battle video there's not so much difference in the end of the day.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55DX21ErYjk

but FSR isn't performance metric for everyone

[y0ur5h4d0w]

14 minutes ago, podkall said:

but FSR isn't performance metric for everyone

i agree with your statement, but:

 

FSR is an objective metric of performance since enabling it will improve performances.

using FSR or NOT using FSR is personal preference.

 

FSR is something that the GPU is capable of, either using it or not using is user choice, if you don't use something "that you payed for" because it's something you don't like (or because you feel edgy like in this case, FSR is actived by default in many games probably 99% of the people doesn't even notice) is your choice, the GPU is capable of generating frames to improve performances and so it needs to have a spot when picking a decision.

 

in the end FSR is a partion of a GPU and something that's the GPU is capable of, you* have to account it at some point, specially when your card is 3/4 years old and at some point you're "forced" to use it if you want to play the game at a decent framerate. unless you live in a pool of cash and you can change your card every generation

 

 

*by "you" i mean in general, people who makes a choice to buy a new GPU

 

 

this is my idea though, and i'm sure many will disagree.

[podkall]

48 minutes ago, y0ur5h4d0w said:

i agree with your statement, but:

 

FSR is an objective metric of performance since enabling it will improve performances.

using FSR or NOT using FSR is personal preference.

 

FSR is something that the GPU is capable of, either using it or not using is user choice, if you don't use something "that you payed for" because it's something you don't like (or because you feel edgy like in this case, FSR is actived by default in many games probably 99% of the people doesn't even notice) is your choice, the GPU is capable of generating frames to improve performances and so it needs to have a spot when picking a decision.

 

in the end FSR is a partion of a GPU and something that's the GPU is capable of, you* have to account it at some point, specially when your card is 3/4 years old and at some point you're "forced" to use it if you want to play the game at a decent framerate. unless you live in a pool of cash and you can change your card every generation

 

 

*by "you" i mean in general, people who makes a choice to buy a new GPU

 

 

this is my idea though, and i'm sure many will disagree.

FSR doesn't just improve performance, it arguably lowers graphics quality

[y0ur5h4d0w]

22 minutes ago, podkall said:

FSR doesn't just improve performance, it arguably lowers graphics quality

yes correct, but the degradation in graphics quality is (iirc) is all about the devs of the single game, and i'm pretty sure most of the people doesn't really notice the degradation of the graphic quality. but yes, it's a side effect of generating frames.

 

the better the tech that the GPU can handle though, the less degradation in graphic quality you will have (probably, i'm assuming this last sentence because i didn't experience much FSR other then an RX6750XT and my current RX7800XT)

 

in the end, the choice of a GPU can be affected by the frame generation tech involved, iirc FSR4 is actually way better then FSR3 on the graphic quality side when implemented correctly (don't quote me much again, i just read stuff online and not actually tested)

[ProtonNeutronElectron]

But the 9070 is 800usd while this 7900xtx is 650

[DNooby]

53 minutes ago, a350xwb-pc said:

But the 9070 is 800usd while this 7900xtx is 650

That's quite the price gap... and that's just the base non XT 9070?

 

I really like FSR 4, I've been playing many games at 4k 120FPS and they look great IMO ( Lords of the fallen / Lies of P / any unreal 5 engine game )

 

Is the new tech stack worth 150$? that will depend on what game you plan on playing and how useful they are to you personally ( your target rez & fps for them ). 650 is a pretty nice deal for the previous flagship card, though ofc if something goes wrong with it you're kind of stuck without any kind of warranty... that 150$ also covers warranty stuff

[Dedayog]

3 hours ago, a350xwb-pc said:

But the 9070 is 800usd while this 7900xtx is 650

You mean 9070xt for 800?

 

there are 9070xt from $699, so get that.

[ProtonNeutronElectron]

11 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

You mean 9070xt for 800?

 

there are 9070xt from $699, so get that.

Not where I’m at, in my country the txt model cost 850-1000 usd

[Dedayog]

33 minutes ago, a350xwb-pc said:

Not where I’m at, in my country the txt model cost 850-1000 usd

And that's why I hate currency equivalent.

 

Just use your own currency and location.  It's a pain in the ass to help when we don't know, or we are lead to assume, where you are.

 

Is that an autocorrect ?  There is no txt model

 

Get the 7900xtx then.