New build planning

[testcy]

Which socket today makes more sense to choose for a new productivity (non gaming) build and to keep as many years possible without upgrading? Which are the best value (good performance and low cost) processors? Should DDR5 only be considered or DDR4 as well?

[Why_Me]

Intel LGA-1851 (Arrow Lake / DDR5) is decent for productivity without breaking the bank. 

[testcy]

36 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Intel LGA-1851 (Arrow Lake / DDR5) is decent for productivity without breaking the bank. 

Why do prices look not much different than AM5? Are you talking about productivity?

[Millios]

21 minutes ago, testcy said:

Why do prices look not much different than AM5? Are you talking about productivity?

What exactly is your question here?
Can you rephrase it so we can make sense of it?

[Why_Me]

25 minutes ago, testcy said:

Why do prices look not much different than AM5? Are you talking about productivity?

Yes.

[testcy]

26 minutes ago, Millios said:

What exactly is your question here?
Can you rephrase it so we can make sense of it?

 

22 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Yes.

So, for productivity, your suggestion is to buy Intel LGA-1851 and not AM5, even if prices are similar.

[Why_Me]

8 minutes ago, testcy said:

 

So, for productivity, your suggestion is to buy Intel LGA-1851 and not AM5, even if prices are similar.

The AMD Ryzen 9 9900X runs about dead even with the Intel Core Ultra 7 265K in regards to productivity such as rendering.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core Ultra 7 265K 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor  ($277.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $277.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-08-05 06:20 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 9900X 4.4 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($362.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $362.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-08-05 06:19 EDT-0400

[Millios]

19 minutes ago, testcy said:

 

So, for productivity, your suggestion is to buy Intel LGA-1851 and not AM5, even if prices are similar.

Yes for a) prices compared to performance like what @Why_Me showed and said

and b) intel is more geared towards productivity so if you do no gaming at all on this machine then intel is a better consideration 

[testcy]

2 hours ago, Millios said:

Yes for a) prices compared to performance like what @Why_Me showed and said

and b) intel is more geared towards productivity so if you do no gaming at all on this machine then intel is a better consideration 

Reading about issues of 13th and 14th generation CPUs on LGA1700, is it safe to buy something as new as 265K on LGA1851?

[Millios]

2 minutes ago, testcy said:

Reading about issues of 13th and 14th generation CPUs on LGA1700, is it safe to buy something as new as 265K on LGA1851?

Completely irrelevant and you have a big misconception and misunderstanding of the situation

2 differenct CPU line ups and not related to each other (14th gen is just a renewed 13th gen) so no safety issues whatsoever AFAIK with LGA 1851

 

[OddOod]

1 hour ago, testcy said:

Reading about issues of 13th and 14th generation CPUs on LGA1700, is it safe to buy something as new as 265K on LGA1851?

Yes it's safe

Intel was scrambling to compete with AMD so they made a couple big mistakes which came back to bite them. Most of those mistakes boiled down to WILDLY cranking the amount of power the CPUs were allowed to suck back which caused them to burn out. The latest generation has much tamer power limits.

[testcy]

3 hours ago, Millios said:

Completely irrelevant and you have a big misconception and misunderstanding of the situation

2 differenct CPU line ups and not related to each other (14th gen is just a renewed 13th gen) so no safety issues whatsoever AFAIK with LGA 1851

 

 

1 hour ago, OddOod said:

Yes it's safe

Intel was scrambling to compete with AMD so they made a couple big mistakes which came back to bite them. Most of those mistakes boiled down to WILDLY cranking the amount of power the CPUs were allowed to suck back which caused them to burn out. The latest generation has much tamer power limits.

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't 265K still require a powerful air or liquid cooler?

[Millios]

1 hour ago, testcy said:

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't 265K still require a powerful air or liquid cooler?

? Imma correct you

Ya wrong 

Don't get a crappy one and you'll be fine 

[testcy]

15 hours ago, Millios said:

? Imma correct you

Ya wrong 

Don't get a crappy one and you'll be fine 

Cooler manufactures suggested either a dual fan air or a liquid cooler for this.

[Millios]

27 minutes ago, testcy said:

Cooler manufactures suggested either a dual fan air or a liquid cooler for this.

Dual tower air coolers aren't necessarily "powerful" and AIOs while nice can be overkill 

To put it into perspective for you

A car dealership will suggest you buy a 50K car to drive to and from work, a car guy will suggest you buy a 10K one cause it's more than enough 

It's the same trap as "manufacturer tested ram kits"