Build check please?

[DeezUnderpants]

Major upgrade time for my unraid system. Ordered an HL15 - Need a mobo, cpu, memory to finish it. Here's what I've got: 

https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/md/49480889


MOBO: https://www.newegg.com/supermicro-mbd-x13sae-f-o-supports-12th-generation-intel-core-i3-i5-i7-i9-processors/p/N82E16813183808?Item=N82E16813183808

CPU: https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-12700k-core-i7-12th-gen-alder-lake-lga-1700-desktop-processor/p/N82E16819118343?Item=N82E16819118343

MEM: https://www.newegg.com/crucial-64gb-ddr5-5600/p/N82E16820156380?Item=N82E16820156380


* I haven't built a PC from scratch in 10 years so I want to double check that this is all compatible. 
* Yes, expensive motherboard. I like supermicro, and I like that it has multiple M.2 slots - That's where I plan on running my mirrored cache. 

[Tetras]

If you don't plan to run ECC memory then you're throwing away performance with this combination that your money could otherwise buy you, but it should work. I don't know if Supermicro allow you to change the memory settings in the BIOS, if they don't your max speed will be limited.

[DeezUnderpants]

I could/should swap to ECC memory since the board supports it. 

https://www.newegg.com/kingston-16gb-ddr5-5600/p/0RN-001J-01563?Item=0RN-001J-01563&SoldByNewegg=1

[Tetras]

3 hours ago, DeezUnderpants said:

I could/should swap to ECC memory since the board supports it. 

To be clear: I'm not saying you should, I'm just saying that's part of why the board costs so much. On Intel platforms, you have to pay a premium for ECC support.

 

If you're a regular desktop user, you'd be better off (performance wise) getting something like a 265K and a less expensive B860/Z890 motherboard. The multithreaded performance would be much higher and could save you hours in long-run multithreaded tasks.

 

If you prefer the stability of a board that configures everything to stock values, you can absolutely copy those settings and buy similar stock memory, while using much cheaper boards from a consumer manufacturer like MSI, or Asus.

[DeezUnderpants]

16 minutes ago, Tetras said:

To be clear: I'm not saying you should, I'm just saying that's part of why the board costs so much. On Intel platforms, you have to pay a premium for ECC support.

 

If you're a regular desktop user, you'd be better off (performance wise) getting something like a 265K and a less expensive B860/Z890 motherboard. The multithreaded performance would be much higher and could save you hours in long-run multithreaded tasks.

 

If you prefer the stability of a board that configures everything to stock values, you can absolutely copy those settings and buy similar stock memory, while using much cheaper boards from a consumer manufacturer like MSI, or Asus.

Admittedly I don't know a lot of detail at this level. As this will be for all of my data, and I want it to last a long time, and choose reliability over eeking the last little bit of performance out of it. 

[Tetras]

41 minutes ago, DeezUnderpants said:

Admittedly I don't know a lot of detail at this level. As this will be for all of my data, and I want it to last a long time, and choose reliability over eeking the last little bit of performance out of it. 

It is always a personal decision, but ECC will cost you a lot more, both in the motherboard and the memory cost.

 

Personally, if I had important data (that I can't just redownload) then I'd make regular backups before I resort to ECC. ECC can help you recognise if the memory is faulty and prevent silent corruption that you can't easily catch otherwise, but if the data is not critical, or you have regular backups (for if something gets corrupted), there's not a big need for it.

 

When I say weigh it against the performance, the difference between a 12700K with an ECC motherboard and 64GB of DDR5 ECC memory and the comparable desktop that you can buy for the same money (e.g. 285K) is enormous.

 

Using Intel's stock settings and stock memory will lose you some performance too, but it depends on what your workload is.

 

If you want stock memory, you can run that Crucial stuff at JEDEC speeds (just don't enable XMP/EXPO).

 

With the CPU, you'd check that the turbo behaviour is set to stock (E.g. disable MCE) and that PL1/PL2 are set correctly and enforced. There's some relevant stuff in this video: