Need help for first PC build

[ckjoshi]

Budget (including currency): around €1500, excluding monitor, a bit flexible for performance gains

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Watching movies (Netflix) and YouTube, Playing games like Elden Ring (+DLC), Spiderman series, God of War, Cyberpunk (maybe), Hogwarts legacy, Star Wars series Games, Ghost of Tsushima, Metro series, Fallout series, occasional DOTA (not competitive), city Skyline, Age of Empires and Mythology remasters. 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Hey everyone. I am building my first PC and I thought I should get your opinion. I used to play games during my college on my laptop. Now that I have some time and some money, I want to build something nice for myself. 

Monitors: I plan to use one monitor setup; I am thinking about Acer Nitro XV275UP3 (cheapest 229 euro on expert.de). This is a low-mid miniLED 1440p monitor, and hopefully good for movies and games?

Peripherals: I need to buy a decent budget gaming US English Keyboard and a mouse. Preferably wireless. If controlled with a single dongle, that is a bonus. Please suggest your recommendations

OS: I already have a Windows 11 pro license.

Here is what I have been thinking: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/NyDKKq

 

CPU : AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (includes a cooler) (€205.87)

Motherboard: ASRock B850M-X WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€134.23)

Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste (€6.89)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€93.90)

Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€111.90)

GPU: Asus DUAL EVO OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card (€713.00). I can buy GPU on a bit later date, because I will also keep an eye for a second hand 4070 super or better. This is why it is important that I select a CPU with integrated graphics. 

Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (€84.90)

PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 12 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€95.91)

 

Total: €1446.60. I can probably can spend 1500 max. I would prefer the keyboard and mouse to be included in that price. 

Please let me know your thoughts, if anything is under or overpowered for the build, and if anything does not go well together. 

[RONOTHAN##]

Not bad, though there are a few things I'd change.

1. You don't need to use Kryonaut. The stuff that comes preinstalled on the stock cooler is plenty good, and a higher end paste like this would just be wasted on it. 
2. The B650 Eagle is a better motherboard for only €5 more, you might as well go for that instead. 
3. I would avoid that memory kit. If the BIOS isn't super up to date you can have some stability issues, and the timings are quite bad considering some of the other options out there. Plus, you can get a 6000 CL30 kit for slightly less, you might as well. 
4. I'd try to get a case with more included fans, though if you really like the look of the 4000D it's not a bad option for the price. 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fLsxRV

 

There is still the issue of the GPU price, since you really shouldn't spend that much on a 4070S. Try looking for a used card or something since that card is not worth that much. 

As for the mouse/keyboard, it's very subjective and it's an area I don't exactly follow, so listen to someone who knows this better than I do. 

[Why_Me]

Here's a case with better airflow, faster RAM and a full size ATX board with 2.5G LAN.

 

https://geizhals.de/  <--- compare prices here

 

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2023-amd-ryzen-5-7500f-review

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (€153.69 @ Caseking) 
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE 58 CFM CPU Cooler  (€39.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€151.99 @ Galaxus) 
Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: *Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€111.90 @ Alza) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€66.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€95.91 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €720.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-02-10 23:46 CET+0100

[podkall]

40 minutes ago, ckjoshi said:

Here is what I have been thinking: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/NyDKKq

 

CPU : AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (includes a cooler) (€205.87)

Motherboard: ASRock B850M-X WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€134.23)

Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste (€6.89)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (€93.90)

Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€111.90)

GPU: Asus DUAL EVO OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card (€713.00). I can buy GPU on a bit later date, because I will also keep an eye for a second hand 4070 super or better. This is why it is important that I select a CPU with integrated graphics. 

Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (€84.90)

PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 12 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€95.91)

 

First very easy, you can drop the paste, you don't need new paste. Box cooler with CPU, new CPU coolers, come with paste, on cooler or in small packet/tube enough for at least one use.

 

With 7500F you can shave off half of 50€, because you need to buy cooler, 7500F doesn't come with any. But that's fine, because you can get like ~22€ cooler that's slightly better than stock, or get ~45€ cooler that's very powerful.

 

Motherboard can get, for about similar price, with more phases on the VRMs, which can help with more power delivery potential and more stable power control too.

 

24 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

The B650 Eagle is a better motherboard for only €5 more, you might as well go for that instead. 

Yep, Eagle has 12 phases I believe, 2x more than B850M-X.

 

RAM is really better CL30, even better with tight timings, but those are 0.5-1% improvements, with Teamgroup/Kingston RAM on my list for example, 5-10€ more expensive but got those tighter timings.

 

speak of the devil:

14 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Memory: *Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

 

There is a slightly cheaper M.2 drive than the one you have, but the one you have is significantly better.

 

For GPU, do you plan ever looking at AMD's options? They have some nice things for just perfect price. That is unless you need CUDA or something from Nvidia the AMD can't provide or only at worse effective speed.

 

For 700€ AMD scales up to 7900 XT before you hit the budget limit of that price.

 

Here's the entire list with all the adjustments I mentioned:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/FR42Wc

 

 

[podkall]

30 minutes ago, ckjoshi said:

Monitors: I plan to use one monitor setup; I am thinking about Acer Nitro XV275UP3 (cheapest 229 euro on expert.de). This is a low-mid miniLED 1440p monitor, and hopefully good for movies and games?

Not sure if it's the best display in the budget range, it's good, it's just that it uses VA panel, and those can sometimes appear blurry, or smear blacks. Not literally but it can sometimes be very distinct.

 

Not sure what others would recommend, perhaps a nice fast response IPS panel?:

https://www.expert.de/shop/unsere-produkte/computer-zubehor/monitore-beamer/monitore/17160033543-monitor-legion-r27q-30-schwarz-27-zoll-qhd-165-hz-0-5-ms.html

[podkall]

31 minutes ago, ckjoshi said:

Peripherals: I need to buy a decent budget gaming US English Keyboard and a mouse. Preferably wireless. If controlled with a single dongle, that is a bonus. Please suggest your recommendations

cheaper mice examples: (most gaming mice are hovering close to 100€ price)

Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED

Razer DeathAdder V2 X HyperSpeed

 

Also if looking for mechanical keyboard, look for Red/linear/optical switches if you don't want the extra clicky sound, only sound of the keys hitting the plastic bottom on press.

 

Of course, there's lot of brands that make switches, because why not? The higher quality switches should be Cherry MX, or local brand from popular brands, like Razer switches, Logitech switches, Keychron, ROG switches (from ASUS).