First build GPU recommendation

[smbdsmn]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K78LPJ

 

This is what I have so far, except the graphics card (i3 14100F, Gigabyte B760M Gaming X AX). I've added the 2 options that are available in my area for almost the same price. Which one do you think is the better option?

Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 3050 8GB, or

ASRock Challenger D Arc A750 8GB

 

I've never heard about ARC until about a week ago, but it has better specs:

2200mhz instead of 1800mhz

256bit instead of 128bit

double the display ports as a bonus.

 

I've heard some people say they have driver issues, is that still the case?

 

[Millios]

Buddy you're missing a few things such as budget, country, use, what youll play if its for gaming, so on and so forth

[Dr. Will0hlep]

1 hour ago, smbdsmn said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K78LPJ

 

This is what I have so far, except the graphics card (i3 14100F, Gigabyte B760M Gaming X AX). I've added the 2 options that are available in my area for almost the same price. Which one do you think is the better option?

Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 3050 8GB, or

ASRock Challenger D Arc A750 8GB

 

I've never heard about ARC until about a week ago, but it has better specs:

2200mhz instead of 1800mhz

256bit instead of 128bit

double the display ports as a bonus.

 

I've heard some people say they have driver issues, is that still the case?

Both the 3050 and the A750 are awful deals.

The 14100F dosn't make much sense either.

 

What is your budget? what nation are you shopping in? What do you want to do with the machine?

[smbdsmn]

6 minutes ago, Millios said:

Buddy you're missing a few things such as budget, country, use, what youll play if its for gaming, so on and so forth

I will be buying either one of those 2 cards, they are the same price, I was just curious which one is the best choice.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

6 minutes ago, smbdsmn said:

I will be buying either one of those 2 cards, they are the same price, I was just curious which one is the best choice.

Then you'll be wasting your money badly. Both cards are terrible options compared to everything else.

 

Please, give us more detail and we can probably help you find a way better setup for the money.

[Millios]

2 minutes ago, smbdsmn said:

I will be buying either one of those 2 cards, they are the same price, I was just curious which one is the best choice.

(I have a feeling you dont get whats being said)

Do you currently have the other parts? Or you saying you want those parts and cant decide on a gpu? IF its the later your throwing money away on most aspects if not every way and need a better list. Also as stated by me and @will0hlep WHAT DO YOU WANT THE PC FOR AND HOW MUCH IS YOUR BUDGET as well as country

[smbdsmn]

4 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Both the 3050 and the A750 are awful deals.

The 14100F dosn't make much sense either.

 

What is your budget? what nation are you shopping in? What do you want to do with the machine?

My budged is about 250-260$ for the graphics card. The machine is for productivity, occasional gaming. I don't game a lot, but I won't say no to a bit of extra performance. My region is Romania. Those 2 options where the best I found at this price.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

1 minute ago, smbdsmn said:

My budged is about 250-260$ for the graphics card. The machine is for productivity, occasional gaming. I don't game a lot, but I won't say no to a bit of extra performance. My region is Romania. Those 2 options where the best I found at this price.

Okay, so you already have the other parts?

Or is the above just a plan, which you are open to us completely changing?

[smbdsmn]

1 minute ago, Millios said:

(I have a feeling you dont get whats being said)

Do you currently have the other parts? Or you saying you want those parts and cant decide on a gpu? IF its the later your throwing money away on most aspects if not every way and need a better list. Also as stated by me and @will0hlep WHAT DO YOU WANT THE PC FOR AND HOW MUCH IS YOUR BUDGET as well as country

Yes, I already have that CPU, motherboard and case. I am looking for a graphics card. All other option seemed to be worse choices. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

3 minutes ago, smbdsmn said:

Yes, I already have that CPU, motherboard and case. I am looking for a graphics card. All other option seemed to be worse choices. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Okay, well firstly, PCPartpicker can be switched to work for Romania (instead of America). So is the budget for the rest of the build about 1231.26 RON?

[smbdsmn]

Just now, will0hlep said:

Okay, well firstly, PCPartpicker can be switched to work for Romania (instead of America). So is the budget for the GPU about 1231.26 RON?

Yes. I know that i3-14100f & the motherboard don't make much sense, but I got the board because it was a great deal, almost the same price as the worse, non-gaming ones. I figured for the extra 20$ at least I'll have better thermals, wi-fi & a working front usb-c.

 

It's the same thing with the graphics cards, those 2 just seemed (TO ME*) to be the best options at that price range (based on specs).

[Millios]

Just now, smbdsmn said:

Yes, I already have that CPU, motherboard and case. I am looking for a graphics card. All other option seemed to be worse choices. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Both cards are not good. They are underpowered, have not that much VRAM and generally are for super low tier.

IF shit hits the fan and you need one urgently I'd say the arc a750 on the basis a)that it's newer and has better features b)for productivity (XESS for gaming isnt bad as well) the quicksync codec is also good. OR better yet USED

To be frank with you tho both cards are a bad deal and I'd wait till the new arc b580 is available for you since it has more VRAM better feats and is actually a good deal (MSRP is 250-280 usd so itll be around the same price as those 2 cards with 12gb VRAM) or turn to the used market to find a used gpu thats better like a used 3060, a770 or 4060

[Dr. Will0hlep]

1 minute ago, Millios said:

Both cards are not good. They are underpowered, have not that much VRAM and generally are for super low tier.

IF shit hits the fan and you need one urgently I'd say the arc a750 on the basis a)that it's newer and has better features b)for productivity (XESS for gaming isnt bad as well) the quicksync codec is also good. OR better yet USED

To be frank with you tho both cards are a bad deal and I'd wait till the new arc b580 is available for you since it has more VRAM better feats and is actually a good deal (MSRP is 250-280 usd so itll be around the same price as those 2 cards with 12gb VRAM) or turn to the used market to find a used gpu thats better like a used 3060, a770 or 4060

I'd normally agree with this, waiting for the B580 would be a good way forward. However, as OP's CPU dosn't have onboard graphics, they can't use the PC without a GPU. Therefore, I think going used is the better option here. I'd recommend something like a 1080Ti.

[smbdsmn]

4 minutes ago, Millios said:

Both cards are not good. They are underpowered, have not that much VRAM and generally are for super low tier.

IF shit hits the fan and you need one urgently I'd say the arc a750 on the basis a)that it's newer and has better features b)for productivity (XESS for gaming isnt bad as well) the quicksync codec is also good. OR better yet USED

To be frank with you tho both cards are a bad deal and I'd wait till the new arc b580 is available for you since it has more VRAM better feats and is actually a good deal (MSRP is 250-280 usd so itll be around the same price as those 2 cards with 12gb VRAM) or turn to the used market to find a used gpu thats better like a used 3060, a770 or 4060

Thanks for the tip, sorry for the confusion. Super low tier? I'm currently sporting an i3-4160 & GT 740, 12 year old PC. LITERALLY ANYTHING is better. I honestly thought a 4060 would be overkill for an i3, but then again, I don't really know my stuff that well.

[Millios]

Just now, smbdsmn said:

Thanks for the tip, sorry for the confusion. Super low tier? I'm currently sporting an i3-4160 & GT 740, 12 year old PC. LITERALLY ANYTHING is better. I honestly thought a 4060 would be overkill for an i3, but then again, I don't really know my stuff that well.

Yes super low tier or if you prefer "cards that are used either in cases where youre pinching pennies on the dollar, need to save the absolute most on a pc that can do the basics at best or a machine that needs to be there till you get smt new or repaired". A 4060 (still a bad deal for anything above 280-290 usd at most so either used or on sale for around 250-260 is good) will do you better than either of the cards you posted

[Dr. Will0hlep]

1 minute ago, smbdsmn said:

Thanks for the tip, sorry for the confusion. Super low tier? I'm currently sporting an i3-4160 & GT 740, 12 year old PC. LITERALLY ANYTHING is better. I honestly thought a 4060 would be overkill for an i3, but then again, I don't really know my stuff that well.

The problem is with the 3050 and A750 is they are really expensive compared to the performance they grant, whilest also missing key features that mean you are likely to need an upgrade far earlier than you did with your GT 740.

As for the 14100, it will keep up just fine with a 4060 or similar. I myself am just about to put a B580 with a 5600. (the latter is performance comparable to the 14100F, while the former is a strong improvement on the 4060)

[smbdsmn]

54 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

The problem is with the 3050 and A750 is they are really expensive compared to the performance they grant, whilest also missing key features that mean you are likely to need an upgrade far earlier than you did with your GT 740.

As for the 14100, it will keep up just fine with a 4060 or similar. I myself am just about to put a B580 with a 5600. (the latter is performance comparable to the 14100F, while the former is a strong improvement on the 4060)

I've marked the thread as solved, I've decided to wait for the new ARCs to hit Romania, I'm in no hurry on this, but could you clear something up for me? I noticed the new B580 and B570 have 192 and 160 bit rate, while both the bad cards I chose have 256. Is that number not that relevant? It's one of the things I was looking for to be as high as possible, along with MHz frequency.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

1 minute ago, smbdsmn said:

I've marked the thread as solved, I've decided to wait for the new ARCs to hit Romania, I'm in no hurry on this, but could you clear something up for me? I noticed the new B580 and B570 have 192 and 160 bit rate, while both the bad cards I chose have 256. Is that number not that relevant? It's one of the things I was looking for to be as high as possible, along with MHz frequency.

The bit rate can be important. If the bit rate is too small, then card will be unable to move textures into memory quick enough, resulting in poor performance. This has been a common theme on some recent budget GPUs from NVidia. However, if the bit rate is large enough, making it bigger won't have much effect.

In the case of the B580, it has enough bit rate so that it doesn't impede the rest of the cards functionality. A more important value in this case is the Vram. The 3050 and A750 have at most 8GB of Vram, which will mean they won't be able to store everything they need in Vram. Therefore they'll have to ask the RAM for stuff in demanding games, which is alot slower.

 

The B580 has 12GB of Vram.

 

I suggest watching some reviews of the B580: