New build problems...

[NecDyte]

Hello, everyone!

I'm new to this community and had some questions about my recently built PC. I built my system, installed the OS, and everything seemed to be working fine. I was really excited to finally play games without lag! But then, I started encountering some issues.

After playing a few matches of PUBG, the game suddenly crashed. I thought, "Okay, I’ll just restart the game." But when I tried, I got my first BSOD. That was concerning. Then, today, while playing Dragon Ball: Sparking Zero (which just released), I experienced another BSOD with the error message: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.

This kind of thing never happened on my old PC running Windows 10. I decided to upgrade to Windows 11, and now I’m running into more errors, even after reinstalling the OS.

I did some research and found that having an EXPO profile enabled with 4 sticks of RAM can sometimes cause issues. I’m using DDR5 6000MHz RAM, so I lowered the speeds to 5200MT/s, thinking it might solve the problem. But, I'm still not sure if that fixed it. I’m not entirely sure what the BSOD error means or how to resolve it. If anyone could offer advice or suggest solutions, I would really appreciate it!

PC Specs:

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
• GPU: GTX 1060 3GB (planning to upgrade to 7800XT)
• RAM: Corsair Vengeance (4x16GB) DDR5 6000MHz
• Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi
• PSU: Corsair RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular 750W

I've attached my dump file for anyone willing to take a look. Thanks in advance for any help!

100824-14656-01.dmp

[Mumintroll]

AMD cpus can cause trouble with some RAM combos.

 

First try to update bios, that could solve it.

 

[Tetras]

Running 4 sticks is not usually recommended with DDR5 and AMD only rates the memory controller to 3600 with 4 sticks, so it is possible that even 5200 is too optimistic. Updating the BIOS as advised above might help, though I'd suggest you turn EXPO off entirely before you do this.

 

Note that if you were running unstable memory at some point, it can still corrupt Windows files and cause problems even once the memory speed is lowered and it is now stable.

 

I'd suggest you disable EXPO completely and run for awhile at that speed (even if it boots at 4000, 4400, or whatever) to check if the system is more stable.

[MiszS]

Yeah 4 sticks of ram is not going to run well on AM5, just return the kit if you can, and buy a 2x32 one, or use it at stock settings

[NecDyte]

yeah i did first thing after building a pc i flashed my bios or motherboard to the latest version. so you think i should just give up my two sticks and just go with 32gb with expo?

 

[Tetras]

Just now, NecDyte said:

yeah i did first thing after building a pc i flashed my bios or motherboard to the latest version. so you think i should just give up my two sticks and just go with 32gb with expo?

 

Unless you do memory specific testing we don't KNOW that is the problem, but 4 sticks will almost certainly have an impact on the frequency achieved.

[NecDyte]

i guess ill give it a try on stock settings without setting anything up

[NecDyte]

Ok at stock the speed has been set to 3600Mt/s and the biggest difference i jsut noticed is the boot to OS which previously was about a minute and now with stock it's around 5 seconds which i hope it's a good sign

[Robchil]

2 hours ago, NecDyte said:

Ok at stock the speed has been set to 3600Mt/s and the biggest difference i jsut noticed is the boot to OS which previously was about a minute and now with stock it's around 5 seconds which i hope it's a good sign

I havn't checked in a while, but last i checked next to no mainboard vendors supported 4 sticks with DDR5 and expo/xmp on atm.. maybe in a future bios update

so i would stick with 2.. 

isn't 4800mhz default speed without expo/xmp? 

 

[Bjoolz]

I don't know if anyone actually looked at the dump file, but it crashed due to "amdfendr.sys". Which ironically is AMD Crash Defender. It's supposed to prevent your PC from crashing by restarting the GPU if it hangs (Because you have an Nvidia dedicated GPU, it would be for the integrated graphics).

 

With memory errors though it will just "blame" the driver/process that got its data corrupted which is completely random. So with just one dump file, I have no idea if this was actually that driver or a memory issue.

 

What I would do, disable the iGPU in the BIOS and see if you still crash. If you still crash, move over to the RAM as the suspect. First update the BIOS. Great strides have been taken with memory compatibility. Just use the PC normally with two sticks at a time and see if only one of pairs cause crashes. I don't trust memory testers with DDR4 and newer, seen them miss bad RAM too often. Check the manual for which slots to use, usually slots 2 and 4 when counting from the CPU socket. If just one of the pairs causes crashes, one of those sticks are faulty. If it crashes with either pair, it's not the RAM. If both pairs are stable, it could just be what everyone else are talking about with four sticks.

If you end up concluding that it's not the RAM either, post any new dump files here. And don't forget to tag/reply to me.