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[Elprokan]

Hey I need an advice how to improve my gaming performance. I was for the longest time playing on 1080p/60hz monitor meaning I capped my fps with vertical

sync (60fps) and I could play smoothly any game on ultra setting 1080p. 

 

However I recently bought 175hz FHD HDR Monitor with Adaptive Sync meaning I no longer need to cap my fps with vertical sync or in game for a lot 

smoother gameplay, but now with bigger fps ranges, the difference between Max Fps and 1% Low is just too high for me to ignore. The stuttering/tearing even

with adaptive sync on is really annoying and it results in not so smooth gameplay.

 

You may be asking why I don't lower in-game settings, but that won't fix the issue.

Let's say on Ultra my 1% is 60FPS and Max is 130FPS, when I lower it to Medium my 1% goes up to 70FPS but my Max is now 145FPS so the gap stays.

 

My GPU is averaging 95-96% utilization, no idea why it can't go to 100%, v-sync is off and I'm not capping frames anymore.

CPU utilization averages around 50% or so, can spike up to 85% which should still not result in a CPU bottleneck.

CPU Temps are no more than 71°C and Gpu maxes out around 65°C.

CPU + GPU are in default mode ( no overlocking ).

I have SAM enabled. 

Power Plan - High Performance ( not sure if it matters, pretty sure games can overwrite it anyway ).

Also I don't have 100% Disk usage so SSD is not causing the issue either.

 

The oldest part in my PC is CPU that I bought almost 5 years ago, is it worth upgrading or is the issue somewhere else? My goal is to play games on 1080p,

Ultra settings only.  Also I don't care about raytracing.

 

My spec:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x

GPU: AMD RX 7600

RAM: 4x8 GB DDR4 - 3200MHZ

STORAGE: NV2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD 1TB

[HippoPCBuilder]

1 hour ago, Elprokan said:

Hey I need an advice how to improve my gaming performance. I was for the longest time playing on 1080p/60hz monitor meaning I capped my fps with vertical

sync (60fps) and I could play smoothly any game on ultra setting 1080p. 

 

However I recently bought 175hz FHD HDR Monitor with Adaptive Sync meaning I no longer need to cap my fps with vertical sync or in game for a lot 

smoother gameplay, but now with bigger fps ranges, the difference between Max Fps and 1% Low is just too high for me to ignore. The stuttering/tearing even

with adaptive sync on is really annoying and it results in not so smooth gameplay.

 

You may be asking why I don't lower in-game settings, but that won't fix the issue.

Let's say on Ultra my 1% is 60FPS and Max is 130FPS, when I lower it to Medium my 1% goes up to 70FPS but my Max is now 145FPS so the gap stays.

 

My GPU is averaging 95-96% utilization, no idea why it can't go to 100%, v-sync is off and I'm not capping frames anymore.

CPU utilization averages around 50% or so, can spike up to 85% which should still not result in a CPU bottleneck.

CPU Temps are no more than 71°C and Gpu maxes out around 65°C.

CPU + GPU are in default mode ( no overlocking ).

I have SAM enabled. 

Power Plan - High Performance ( not sure if it matters, pretty sure games can overwrite it anyway ).

Also I don't have 100% Disk usage so SSD is not causing the issue either.

 

The oldest part in my PC is CPU that I bought almost 5 years ago, is it worth upgrading or is the issue somewhere else? My goal is to play games on 1080p,

Ultra settings only.  Also I don't care about raytracing.

 

My spec:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x

GPU: AMD RX 7600

RAM: 4x8 GB DDR4 - 3200MHZ

STORAGE: NV2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD 1TB

Why not just cap your framerate at your 1% lows?

[podkall]

Do you care more about tearing or stuttering? Of stuttering you could just try disabling any vsyncs adaptive syncs and see if that helps.

 

1 hour ago, Elprokan said:

My GPU is averaging 95-96% utilization, no idea why it can't go to 100%, v-sync is off and I'm not capping frames anymore.

What about adaptive "sync"?

 

1 hour ago, Elprokan said:

My GPU is averaging 95-96% utilization, no idea why it can't go to 100%, v-sync is off and I'm not capping frames anymore.

CPU utilization averages around 50% or so, can spike up to 85% which should still not result in a CPU bottleneck.

Utilization doesn't tell you whole story,

 

first you need to know what game are you trying to play and how much it will impact each component individually,

 

then you can't just trust utilization especially on CPU, because if CPU isn't using all it's cores, it's never going to be 100%

 

1 hour ago, Elprokan said:

CPU + GPU are in default mode ( no overlocking ).

when you were first set up PC, what different drivers did you update?

 

also how is the CPU cooled? is PBO on? (it's off by default)

[podkall]

1 hour ago, Elprokan said:

You may be asking why I don't lower in-game settings, but that won't fix the issue.

Let's say on Ultra my 1% is 60FPS and Max is 130FPS, when I lower it to Medium my 1% goes up to 70FPS but my Max is now 145FPS so the gap stays.

oh yeah, and most importantly,

 

what game,

 

having these fps paints different picture if we're talking about Cyberpunk in one discussion and League of Legends in another discussion.

[PDifolco]

1 hour ago, Elprokan said:

Hey I need an advice how to improve my gaming performance. I was for the longest time playing on 1080p/60hz monitor meaning I capped my fps with vertical

sync (60fps) and I could play smoothly any game on ultra setting 1080p. 

 

However I recently bought 175hz FHD HDR Monitor with Adaptive Sync meaning I no longer need to cap my fps with vertical sync or in game for a lot 

smoother gameplay, but now with bigger fps ranges, the difference between Max Fps and 1% Low is just too high for me to ignore. The stuttering/tearing even

with adaptive sync on is really annoying and it results in not so smooth gameplay.

 

You may be asking why I don't lower in-game settings, but that won't fix the issue.

Let's say on Ultra my 1% is 60FPS and Max is 130FPS, when I lower it to Medium my 1% goes up to 70FPS but my Max is now 145FPS so the gap stays.

 

My GPU is averaging 95-96% utilization, no idea why it can't go to 100%, v-sync is off and I'm not capping frames anymore.

CPU utilization averages around 50% or so, can spike up to 85% which should still not result in a CPU bottleneck.

CPU Temps are no more than 71°C and Gpu maxes out around 65°C.

CPU + GPU are in default mode ( no overlocking ).

I have SAM enabled. 

Power Plan - High Performance ( not sure if it matters, pretty sure games can overwrite it anyway ).

Also I don't have 100% Disk usage so SSD is not causing the issue either.

 

The oldest part in my PC is CPU that I bought almost 5 years ago, is it worth upgrading or is the issue somewhere else? My goal is to play games on 1080p,

Ultra settings only.  Also I don't care about raytracing.

 

My spec:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x

GPU: AMD RX 7600

RAM: 4x8 GB DDR4 - 3200MHZ

STORAGE: NV2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD 1TB

I suppose an upgrade to a 5800X3D or AM5 7800X3D will significantly increase 1% lows in many games, if that's you issue

[Elprokan]

4 minutes ago, podkall said:

Do you care more about tearing or stuttering? Of stuttering you could just try disabling any vsyncs adaptive syncs and see if that helps.

 

What about adaptive "sync"?

 

Utilization doesn't tell you whole story,

 

first you need to know what game are you trying to play and how much it will impact each component individually,

 

then you can't just trust utilization especially on CPU, because if CPU isn't using all it's cores, it's never going to be 100%

 

when you were first set up PC, what different drivers did you update?

 

also how is the CPU cooled? is PBO on? (it's off by default)

 

oh yeah, and most importantly,

 

what game,

 

having these fps paints different picture if we're talking about Cyberpunk in one discussion and League of Legends in another discussion.

I care about both, if I turn off Adaptive Sync, it tears so much it can give someone a seizure, and it does not fix stuttering and fps drops or GPU usage, from all the benchmarks I saw they were at 98-100% GPU usage, while mine struggle going above 95% for some reason, no idea. Adding a picture of CPU core utilization.
Regarding drivers all should be up to date, bios as well. Pc is cooled with Arctic freezer 34 esports duo but temps were never an issue. Regarding PBO no idea, I did not do anything with that setting, only overclocked RAM in bios.
Also pretty much every new game that pushes both CPU and GPU, Had really bad Fps drops in Dead Island 2, some open areas are like 115 FPS and then Inside of a building it's 65 for some reason then when I reenter that building a bit later it's suddenly 110, does not make sense. Diablo 4 as well, Sometimes in town I got like 145 fps, other times it's 80-90, during combat it can jump from 130 to 65 randomly and that makes it really noticeable.
 

[podkall]

11 minutes ago, Elprokan said:

Regarding drivers all should be up to date, bios as well.

so, latest Adrenaline install has been run?

 

14 minutes ago, Elprokan said:

Also pretty much every new game that pushes both CPU and GPU, Had really bad Fps drops in Dead Island 2, some open areas are like 115 FPS and then Inside of a building it's 65 for some reason then when I reenter that building a bit later it's suddenly 110, does not make sense.

That one is bit weird,

 

15 minutes ago, Elprokan said:

Diablo 4 as well, Sometimes in town I got like 145 fps, other times it's 80-90, during combat it can jump from 130 to 65 randomly and that makes it really noticeable.

Are you on Ultra settings?

 

You do understand that the more recent game it is, the worse it will perform on anything that is "really fast" the higher settings you crank it up to?

[Elprokan]

29 minutes ago, podkall said:

so, latest Adrenaline install has been run?

 

That one is bit weird,

 

Are you on Ultra settings?

 

You do understand that the more recent game it is, the worse it will perform on anything that is "really fast" the higher settings you crank it up to?

Latest stable I think, windows is doing its usual shenanigans and I can not automatically update it

That one I highly doubt is causing the issue but I might try manually download latest one.

Yes Diablo 4 is on ultra if you look at benchmarks with my spec I should easily be able to run that game, without any significant drops/stutters on ultra, tho in their benchmarks the GPU is at 100% and CPU around 20% mine is 95% GPU and 50%, spiking up to 85% CPU, maybe that's the issue, can't really upgrade to anything higher than 5800X3D because of AM4 socket.