Which of these GPUs are the best?

[PapaAquaWet]

Budget (including currency): RTX 4070 (at most a RTX 4070 super)

Country: 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Hello!

I'm looking to buy either a 4070 or 4070 super however I'm more inclined to 4070 because it's a tiny bit cheaper. I wonder which one or ones of these are the best and or there are any should skip totally?

 

The cheapest models in my country are 4070:

1. MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 2X OC  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NHzXsY/msi-ventus-2x-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-rtx-4070-ventus-2x-12g-oc

2. Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE 2X OC. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJ26Mp/gigabyte-windforce-2x-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-gv-n4070wf2oc-12gd

 

 

For the cheapest 4070 super models it's

1. ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 4070 Super 12GB EVO https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qtbRsY/asus-dual-evo-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-dual-rtx4070s-o12g-evo

2. ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Twin Edge

3. ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Twin Edge OC https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y39wrH/zotac-gaming-twin-edge-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-zt-d40720h-10m

4. Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 Super Windforce OC  12GB https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HCkH99/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-gv-n407swf3oc-12gd

5. Inno3D GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Twin X2 - 12GB GDDR6X (not in stock)  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r4hv6h/inno3d-twin-x2-geforce-rtx-4070-super-12-gb-video-card-n407s2-126x-186162n

 

in my country the 4070 goes for cheapest $640 and the 4070 super $731. These are also roughly the prices for the GPUs mentioned here on these lists.

[GuiltySpark_]

The decision should be between 4070 and 4070 Super as those are completely different cards. The brand/model of each is much less important. For example, if its a 4070, no matter if Asus, Gigabyte or Zotac make it they're all going to perform within margin of error of eachother. Warranties these days are all essentially the same so generally the only difference is going to be noise and cooling. A somewhat (but not foolproof) method is get the one with the largest cooler.

 

[PDifolco]

7 minutes ago, PapaAquaWet said:

Budget (including currency): RTX 4070 (at most a RTX 4070 super)

Country: 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Hello!

I'm looking to buy either a 4070 or 4070 super however I'm more inclined to 4070 because it's a tiny bit cheaper. I wonder which one or ones of these are the best and or there are any should skip totally?

 

The cheapest models in my country are 4070:

1. MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 2X OC

2. Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE 2X OC.

 

 

For the cheapest 4070 super models it's

1. ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 4070 Super 12GB EVO

2. ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Twin Edge

3. ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Twin Edge OC

4. Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 Super Windforce OC HDMI 3xDP 12GB

 

in my country the 4070 goes for cheapest $640 and the 4070 super $731. These are also the prices for the GPUs mentioned here on these lists

Get the cheapest one for the higher tier model you can afford, so the cheapest 4070Super

4070Super is like 10% faster than the normal 4070, so it's worth the price increase

Where are you located ? Those prices seem pretty high, even here in Taxland (France) it's 600EUR for a 4070 and 650EUR for the Super

 

[PapaAquaWet]

2 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Where are you located ? Those prices seem pretty high, even here in Taxland (France) it's 600EUR for a 4070 and 650EUR for the Super

I'm from Sweden. PC parts are very expensive here lol

[PapaAquaWet]

4 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Get the cheapest one for the higher tier model you can afford, so the cheapest 4070Super

So you don't think the 4070 models I showed were good? They are the only cheap models available. The other 4070 models are just a $50 difference between them and a entry 4070 super.

[PapaAquaWet]

11 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

The decision should be between 4070 and 4070 Super as those are completely different cards. The brand/model of each is much less important. For example, if its a 4070, no matter if Asus, Gigabyte or Zotac make it they're all going to perform within margin of error of eachother. Warranties these days are all essentially the same so generally the only difference is going to be noise and cooling. A somewhat (but not foolproof) method is get the one with the largest cooler.

Thanks! Yes I saw it in videos aswell the performance is marginal and it doesn't matter. The main difference is the build quality and noice level and I mostly ask for those reasons so I don't buy something that break or sound like an jet engine if it's the case with any of these GPUs

[PDifolco]

46 minutes ago, PapaAquaWet said:

So you don't think the 4070 models I showed were good? They are the only cheap models available. The other 4070 models are just a $50 difference between them and a entry 4070 super.

No, 4070 are good, but 4070 Super are just better

[PapaAquaWet]

On 4/19/2024 at 8:31 PM, PDifolco said:

No, 4070 are good, but 4070 Super are just better

Do you have any opinions on the 7900 GRE? 

 

The cheapest 4070 models in my country are:

1. MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 2X OC  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NHzXsY/msi-ventus-2x-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-rtx-4070-ventus-2x-12g-oc

2. Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE 2X OC. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJ26Mp/gigabyte-windforce-2x-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-gv-n4070wf2oc-12gd

 

and they go for $642

 

The cheapest 4070 Super models in my country are the ones mentioned on the first post and they go for $734

 

Here's the cheapest RX 7900 GRE model:

 

Gigabyte Radeon RX 7900 GRE GAMING OC 2xHDMI 2xDP 16GB https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fq26Mp/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-gv-r79gregaming-oc-16gd

 

It goes for $660

 

The performance per dollar seems to be much better on the AMD card but I've never tested one before. What's your opinion? Are Ray Tracing and those newer technologis worth it? If so, is it a big one? How do the GPU perform outside of gaming? I probably wont use it for anything special outside of gaming right now but perhaps it's good to know in case.

 

 

 

[PDifolco]

7 hours ago, PapaAquaWet said:

Do you have any opinions on the 7900 GRE? 

 

The cheapest 4070 models in my country are:

1. MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 2X OC  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NHzXsY/msi-ventus-2x-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-rtx-4070-ventus-2x-12g-oc

2. Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE 2X OC. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJ26Mp/gigabyte-windforce-2x-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-gv-n4070wf2oc-12gd

 

and they go for $642

 

The cheapest 4070 Super models in my country are the ones mentioned on the first post and they go for $734

 

Here's the cheapest RX 7900 GRE model:

 

Gigabyte Radeon RX 7900 GRE GAMING OC 2xHDMI 2xDP 16GB https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fq26Mp/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-gv-r79gregaming-oc-16gd

 

It goes for $660

 

The performance per dollar seems to be much better on the AMD card but I've never tested one before. What's your opinion? Are Ray Tracing and those newer technologis worth it? If so, is it a big one? How do the GPU perform outside of gaming? I probably wont use it for anything special outside of gaming right now but perhaps it's good to know in case.

 

 

 

 

The 7900GRE approximately performs as a 4070S for the price of a 4070 in your case

Losing Nvidia RT/DLSS really depends on the games and resolution you play at, for most games at less than 4K it isn't important imo, as only a few games have worthwhile RT (say CP2077 has) and DLSS is really useful to boost 4K performance, but isn't really needed with a powerful card at 1440p and below

Plus you can use the new XeSS 1.3 on AMD cards, which is pretty nice, better than FSR2, I use it to play CP2077 with RT (not PT...) at ultrawide 1440p, 90fps+ on my 7900XTX and looks great

 

 

[PapaAquaWet]

7 hours ago, PDifolco said:

 

The 7900GRE approximately performs as a 4070S for the price of a 4070 in your case

Losing Nvidia RT/DLSS really depends on the games and resolution you play at, for most games at less than 4K it isn't important imo, as only a few games have worthwhile RT (say CP2077 has) and DLSS is really useful to boost 4K performance, but isn't really needed with a powerful card at 1440p and below

Plus you can use the new XeSS 1.3 on AMD cards, which is pretty nice, better than FSR2, I use it to play CP2077 with RT (not PT...) at ultrawide 1440p, 90fps+ on my 7900XTX and looks great

 

 

Thanks! That's good to know. Right now as speaking it seems as if the 7900 GRE for that price is sold out which is really unfortunate. However there's other 7900 GRE models from other companies.

 

Asus Radeon RX 7900 GRE Dual OC Edition HDMI 3xDP 16GB $673

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pulse 2xHDMI 2xDP 16GB $675

 

There's other  options aswell but they start to approach the price of 4070 Super. It doesn't say when the sold out Gigabyte model will come back but it says I can order it. It really seems like a steal for $660 since on other stores it costs $698. I've also seen reviews on the Gigabyte model so I know what I get if I buy it. It wouldn't shock me if it comes back to stock in some weeks of time because that seems to be the date of GPUs on other stores.

[PDifolco]

13 minutes ago, PapaAquaWet said:

Thanks! That's good to know. Right now as speaking it seems as if the 7900 GRE for that price is sold out which is really unfortunate. However there's other 7900 GRE models from other companies.

 

Asus Radeon RX 7900 GRE Dual OC Edition HDMI 3xDP 16GB $673

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pulse 2xHDMI 2xDP 16GB $675

 

There's other  options aswell but they start to approach the price of 4070 Super. It doesn't say when the sold out Gigabyte model will come back but it says I can order it. It really seems like a steal for $660 since on other stores it costs $698. I've also seen reviews on the Gigabyte model so I know what I get if I buy it. It wouldn't shock me if it comes back to stock in some weeks of time because that seems to be the date of GPUs on other stores.

If both 7900GRE and  4070S are at the same price (or within $20 of each other), get the 4070S

 

[filpo]

9 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

If both 7900GRE and  4070S are at the same price (or within $20 of each other), get the 4070S

 

the 7900 GRE has more vram, and with the new memory overclocking results, can get even better than the 4070S in many games 

OP seems to only want to use RT as an experimental so won't be that valuable

yes, it's not that good at RT but even the 4070S just breaks 60 at 1080p ultra. If they're using RT normally then yes, I would recommend the 4070S

[PapaAquaWet]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

Why? the 7900 GRE has more vram, and with the new memory overclocking results, can get even better than the 4070S in many games 

OP seems to only want to use RT as an experimental so won't be that valuable

Yes you're right. I haven't used RT before and for this reason it's really hard to tell if it's worth the premium and how it compared to AMDs alternative. I would guess that a YouTube video probably wont justify RT on vs off and I need to see it for myself so it's really hard for me to tell if it's something I would even care about.

 

The memory overclocking looks really impressive from the video you showed.