Planning an upgrade

[flrn]

Budget (including currency): 2-3000 euros

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: CS2, newer games and possibly some streaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Existing parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dyrfjH (the 2TB Samsung is not installed yet). The processor has the default Intel cooler because I was to lazy to buy and install another one and the same with the case, is an old case that I had before and did a really poor job of cable management and didn't want the headache to change everything without a big upgrade.

 

Something for the new parts: Basically, I need everything new. As I understand, CS2 is better on an AMD X3D processor because of the cache (probably the 7950X3D). I have no idea what motherboard to use, the only thing I know, I want DDR5 and if possible more than 2 M2 slots.

Honestly, I'm really undecided what AIO to choose, what case, what GPU, what everything. Throw your best lists and best looking cases.

 

Thank you.

 

 

[PDifolco]

17 minutes ago, flrn said:

Budget (including currency): 2-3000 euros

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: CS2, newer games and possibly some streaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Existing parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dyrfjH (the 2TB Samsung is not installed yet). The processor has the default Intel cooler because I was to lazy to buy and install another one and the same with the case, is an old case that I had before and did a really poor job of cable management and didn't want the headache to change everything without a big upgrade.

 

Something for the new parts: Basically, I need everything new. As I understand, CS2 is better on an AMD X3D processor because of the cache (probably the 7950X3D). I have no idea what motherboard to use, the only thing I know, I want DDR5 and if possible more than 2 M2 slots.

Honestly, I'm really undecided what AIO to choose, what case, what GPU, what everything. Throw your best lists and best looking cases.

 

Thank you.

 

 

Think that's the fastest you can get bar a 4090, but it's so overpriced and overkill I won't advise getting one 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€369.00 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€36.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€269.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€134.61 @ Galaxus) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€957.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (€73.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Total: €1842.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 18:12 CET+0100

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

https://geizhals.eu/   <--- check this site for lower prices on PC components. 

 

AMD build

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€369.00 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€136.38 @ Galaxus) 
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€274.69 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€134.61 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: *MSI GAMING X SLIM GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (€1157.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€114.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: *Gigabyte M27Q-X 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor  (€467.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €2772.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 18:49 CET+0100

 

Intel build

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€395.40 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€136.38 @ Galaxus) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€256.18 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€138.69 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: *MSI GAMING X SLIM GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (€1157.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€114.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: *Gigabyte M27Q-X 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor  (€467.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €2784.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 18:44 CET+0100

[flrn]

1 hour ago, PDifolco said:

Think that's the fastest you can get bar a 4090, but it's so overpriced and overkill I won't advise getting one 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€369.00 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€36.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€269.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€134.61 @ Galaxus) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€957.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (€73.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Total: €1842.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 18:12 CET+0100

 

Thanks. The case doesn't really fit and with the GPU, I prefer to remain team green. I thought an 4080 SUPER.

 

36 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

https://geizhals.eu/   <--- check this site for lower prices on PC components. 

 

AMD build

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€369.00 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€136.38 @ Galaxus) 
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€274.69 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: *G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€134.61 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: *MSI GAMING X SLIM GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (€1157.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€114.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: *Gigabyte M27Q-X 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor  (€467.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €2772.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 18:49 CET+0100

 

Intel build

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€395.40 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III A-RGB 48.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€136.38 @ Galaxus) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€256.18 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€138.69 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: *MSI GAMING X SLIM GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (€1157.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€114.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: *Gigabyte M27Q-X 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor  (€467.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €2784.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-04 18:44 CET+0100

Thanks, I knew about idealo, but I'll check both. The AMD build seems nice, but I kinda want a AIO or is to overkill? For monitor, I've got an AOC 1080p 240hz, for the moment I don't want to upgrade unless is 360hz.

Because I don't need a monitor I think I'll add an 7950x3D and an AIO but there are so many choices I don't really know what to chose, Corsair or NZXT?

[Why_Me]

7 minutes ago, flrn said:

Thanks. The case doesn't really fit and with the GPU, I prefer to remain team green. I thought an 4080 SUPER.

 

Thanks, I knew about idealo, but I'll check both. The AMD build seems nice, but I kinda want a AIO or is to overkill? For monitor, I've got an AOC 1080p 240hz, for the moment I don't want to upgrade unless is 360hz.

Because I don't need a monitor I think I'll add an 7950x3D and an AIO but there are so many choices I don't really know what to chose, Corsair or NZXT?

I posted a AIO in both of those builds. You never posted a monitor so I added one. If your resolution is 1080P then look at the 4070 Ti Super 16GB.

[PDifolco]

54 minutes ago, flrn said:

Thanks. The case doesn't really fit and with the GPU, I prefer to remain team green. I thought an 4080 SUPER.

 

Thanks, I knew about idealo, but I'll check both. The AMD build seems nice, but I kinda want a AIO or is to overkill? For monitor, I've got an AOC 1080p 240hz, for the moment I don't want to upgrade unless is 360hz.

Because I don't need a monitor I think I'll add an 7950x3D and an AIO but there are so many choices I don't really know what to chose, Corsair or NZXT?

AFAIK 7900XTX is faster than 4080 in many cases (and a tad cheaper as well), and competitive games can't use DLSS nor RT, so it's a win-win

Re case the Montech is a good case, but idk what you want 

For the CPU if you don't have an use for 16 cores just get a 7800X3D,  a 7950X3D will just be money thrown away

Then a good aircooler is more  than enough, but if you want an AIO avoid Corsair and NZXT, they're expensive and not that good

I'd recommend either Arctic LF2/3, EK Nucleus, or the new Deepcool Mystique, those are good AIOs !

[flrn]

1 hour ago, PDifolco said:

AFAIK 7900XTX is faster than 4080 in many cases (and a tad cheaper as well), and competitive games can't use DLSS nor RT, so it's a win-win

Re case the Montech is a good case, but idk what you want 

For the CPU if you don't have an use for 16 cores just get a 7800X3D,  a 7950X3D will just be money thrown away

Then a good aircooler is more  than enough, but if you want an AIO avoid Corsair and NZXT, they're expensive and not that good

I'd recommend either Arctic LF2/3, EK Nucleus, or the new Deepcool Mystique, those are good AIOs !

Thanks, I got what you said but I don't want just competitive games. For example, in 2025 (probably on console) GTA VI will launch, I want the new pc to run it without a problem at atleast 60 fps. I know will be a wild guess what requirements will have, but like I said, just an example.

 

I made a new list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/2PwJZJ

Still, for the GPU I still like team green, just a preference even when they are more expensive

I added also the monitor, its not something high-end but for the moment it does its job, the peripherals are not included in the budget.