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2 minutes ago, niallnarine said:

i just bought a 5800x3d and a Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE cooler for it. but all my friends are telling me itll overheat and stuff. do you all think itll be good? does anyone have that combination? please share thoughts and results. I do gaming mainly.

As an owner of 2 X3D chips... your friends are misinformed.  Both chips are cooler than their peers. 


On top of that,  the Assassin is a fantastic cooler for it's price.

 

Just have decent air flow in the case and all is well.

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Friends are mildly put - Wrong.

  

1 minute ago, niallnarine said:

Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE

One of the best air-coolers. Specially for the price, but considering even higher cost dual dual-tower coolers it does not show lower performance compared to likes of Deepcool Assassin IV or other similar.

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2 minutes ago, niallnarine said:

i just bought a 5800x3d and a Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE cooler for it. but all my friends are telling me itll overheat and stuff. do you all think itll be good? does anyone have that combination? please share thoughts and results. I do gaming mainly.

As an owner of 2 X3D chips... your friends are misinformed.  Both chips are cooler than their peers. 


On top of that,  the Assassin is a fantastic cooler for it's price.

 

Just have decent air flow in the case and all is well.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

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4 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Friends are mildly put - Wrong.

  

One of the best air-coolers. Specially for the price, but considering even higher cost dual dual-tower coolers it does not show lower performance compared to likes of Deepcool Assassin IV or other similar.

 

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

As an owner of 2 X3D chips... your friends are misinformed.  Both chips are cooler than their peers. 


On top of that,  the Assassin is a fantastic cooler for it's price.

 

Just have decent air flow in the case and all is well.

GREAT! ive been paranoid cause i ordered and i cant cancel and itll be here next week! thank you so much for the input. i just got the 7800XT and im upgrading my 5600 (non x) to the 5800X3D to get the best out of am4 and my gpu.

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20 minutes ago, niallnarine said:

i just bought a 5800x3d and a Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE cooler for it. but all my friends are telling me itll overheat and stuff. do you all think itll be good? does anyone have that combination? please share thoughts and results. I do gaming mainly.

Everyone else has already said it but... your friends are wrong and the cooler will be absolutely fine. It's not an intel chip. 🙂

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20 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Everyone else has already said it but... your friends are wrong and the cooler will be absolutely fine. It's not an intel chip. 🙂

 

38 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

As an owner of 2 X3D chips... your friends are misinformed.  Both chips are cooler than their peers. 


On top of that,  the Assassin is a fantastic cooler for it's price.

 

Just have decent air flow in the case and all is well.

 

41 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Friends are mildly put - Wrong.

  

One of the best air-coolers. Specially for the price, but considering even higher cost dual dual-tower coolers it does not show lower performance compared to likes of Deepcool Assassin IV or other similar.

thank you all so much for the replies. i dont feel like an idiot anymore LOL. 

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thank you all so much for the replies. i dont feel like an idiot anymore LOL. 

You should never have 🙂

 

It's your friends that are just blowing smoke from what they "read somewhere" or some shit.

 

If you have any lingering doubts, look up Gamers Nexus reviews of the chips.  He compares temps and wattage I think.  Someone does.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose. Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

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GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

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OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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Thermalright Peerless Assassin is rated for ~250W TDP, 5800X3D is "105W TDP" which isn't always an exact measure of the cooling required, but with Ryzens, it is a reasonable indication of heat that is likely to be generated provided you look at the right TDP value.

 

Worth noting that this value will mist likely climb steeply if you're overclocking at all and it will be several times higher than the rated TDP for Intel's newer generations.

 

With Ryzen X3D there's no OC option and their TDP ratings tend to be accurate, so the number is fairly good to use.

 

Worth noting what your GPU is and the cooling deign! A high power GPU with a blow-through cooler can cause this to be a lot less efficient, but you haven't mentioned which GPU you're using.

 

I mention this as I was using an air-cooler that has a lower 180W TDP rating than the Assassin SE (NH-D15) that was absolutely fine with my Ryzen 9 5900X (same 105W TDP rating as a 5800X3D).... and it was even fine when I overclocked it to 5.1Ghz and it was drawing around 140W.... however as soon as I switched my GPU from a 125W side exhaust GTX1660S to a 330W blow-through RTX3080Ti, it started getting very hot and crashing as the air cooler was pulling in some very hot air from the GPU. 

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