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WickedEagle777
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Hey all, I was hoping I could get some help with an issue I'm having. Just built a new PC, and I've run a series of benchmarks (Time Spy, Cyberpunk, Dead Space, Alan Wake II) and compared my GPU performance to those on extremally similar test beds, and my performance is consistently coming in 15-20% lower than it should. I've updated the Bios and Drivers, I'm on a clean install of Windows. I've tried to change the PCIE type in in the motherboard, that didn't help. Tried changing the Bifurcation, that didn't help. Disabled the ASPM, that didn't do anything. I made sure that Resizable Bar is enabled. I don't know what to do. XMP is enabled and stable.

 

PC Specs

MOBO: Asus Rog Strix Z790-h

GPU: RTX 4070 Gigabyte Windforce

CPU: i5 14600kf

RAM: 16GB x2 T-Force Delta 6000 Mhz

SSD: Nexstorage 2 TB PCIe gen 4

PSU: CORSAIR RM750e 80+ Gold

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/105256107?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mxOCe8hHWDIeEgCZFaSFJoSIPdV57G7q/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a99M2d0OVNLVEfODgfEYuQWeY9J68BqL/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eP8vfdlkytPGn1Bf0ZHLhwmVyzqYWP5D/view?usp=drive_link

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4275233

 

After digging around, I can't seem to understand why the PCIe Link Width would be at x1? I've ran it under some load to see if it would change, and it does not. Any tips?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_j4guWLTj4Z_KFPxSa5rynu8XZHH2p-Q/view?usp=sharing

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What PCIe slot is the GPU in?

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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7 minutes ago, WickedEagle777 said:

Hey all, I was hoping I could get some help with an issue I'm having. Just built a new PC, and I've run a series of benchmarks (Time Spy, Cyberpunk, Dead Space, Alan Wake II) and compared my GPU performance to those on extremally similar test beds, and my performance is consistently coming in 15-20% lower than it should. I've updated the Bios and Drivers, I'm on a clean install of Windows. I've tried to change the PCIE type in in the motherboard, that didn't help. Tried changing the Bifurcation, that didn't help. Disabled the ASPM, that didn't do anything. I made sure that Resizable Bar is enabled. I don't know what to do. XMP is enabled and stable.

 

PC Specs

MOBO: Asus Rog Strix Z790-h

GPU: RTX 4070 Gigabyte Windforce

CPU: i5 14600kf

RAM: 16GB x2 T-Force Delta 6000 Mhz

SSD: Nexstorage 2 TB PCIe gen 4

PSU: CORSAIR RM750e 80+ Gold

 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/105256107?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mxOCe8hHWDIeEgCZFaSFJoSIPdV57G7q/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a99M2d0OVNLVEfODgfEYuQWeY9J68BqL/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eP8vfdlkytPGn1Bf0ZHLhwmVyzqYWP5D/view?usp=drive_link

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4275233

 

After digging around, I can't seem to understand why the PCIe Link Width would be at x1? I've ran it under some load to see if it would change, and it does not. Any tips?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_j4guWLTj4Z_KFPxSa5rynu8XZHH2p-Q/view?usp=sharing

x1 ? Urghh

Are you sure you've plugged the GPU in the top slot ?? And its correctly pluigged in all along the slot ?

 

 

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Just now, PDifolco said:

x1 ? Urghh

Are you sure you've plugged the GPU in the top slot ?? And its correctly pluigged in all along the slot ?

Wrong slot was my first thought too, (see above), but looking at the board, the only options would be x16 or x16@x4 (there is an x1 slot, but it is blocked at the end so can't take longer cards)

 

Not plugged in fully could be the issue?

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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You are not using a riser cable for the gpu are you?

CPU : Ryzen 7 7800X3D @ -30mv All core

CPU Cooler : Thermalright Frozen Prism 240mm AIO

Mobo : Asrock B650m Pro RS Wifi

Ram : 32GB (2X16GB) Lexar Ares 6000MHZ CL 28-36-36-68

GPU : MSI Gaming X Slim 4070Ti Super 16GB ( 308W PL +140 Core +1000 Memory )

Storage : 2TB Verbatim Vi5000 Gen 4 NVME

PSU : Thermalright TG-750w 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0

Case : Fractal Design Pop Mini MATX

Case Fans : 3 X Thermalright TL-C12C-S RGB 

Monitor :27" Samsung Odyssey G5 2560 x 1440 180 HZ IPS 

Keyboard : HyperX Alloy Core RGB

Mouse : Corsair M65 Elite RGB

Headset : Corsair HS35 Gaming Headset

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Hey all, thanks for the responses.  I've reseated the GPU twice now, making sure everything looks good, and all connections were made.  No riser cables were used.  I'm going to try reseating the CPU tomorrow, and then I'm going to take the GPU to a friend's house ad test on their rig on Monday.  I also made sure to run the render test in GPU-Z for a good amount of time to make sure it wouldn't switch under load, but it's stuck at 1x.  It's a head scratcher.

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3 hours ago, WickedEagle777 said:

Hey all, thanks for the responses.  I've reseated the GPU twice now, making sure everything looks good, and all connections were made.  No riser cables were used.  I'm going to try reseating the CPU tomorrow, and then I'm going to take the GPU to a friend's house ad test on their rig on Monday.  I also made sure to run the render test in GPU-Z for a good amount of time to make sure it wouldn't switch under load, but it's stuck at 1x.  It's a head scratcher.

Testing the gpu in another system is a good shout , Let us know how it goes.

 

I don't think it will be a bios setting , As far as I'm aware the motherboard will drop the pcie generations to save power but not the amount of lanes.

CPU : Ryzen 7 7800X3D @ -30mv All core

CPU Cooler : Thermalright Frozen Prism 240mm AIO

Mobo : Asrock B650m Pro RS Wifi

Ram : 32GB (2X16GB) Lexar Ares 6000MHZ CL 28-36-36-68

GPU : MSI Gaming X Slim 4070Ti Super 16GB ( 308W PL +140 Core +1000 Memory )

Storage : 2TB Verbatim Vi5000 Gen 4 NVME

PSU : Thermalright TG-750w 80+ Gold ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0

Case : Fractal Design Pop Mini MATX

Case Fans : 3 X Thermalright TL-C12C-S RGB 

Monitor :27" Samsung Odyssey G5 2560 x 1440 180 HZ IPS 

Keyboard : HyperX Alloy Core RGB

Mouse : Corsair M65 Elite RGB

Headset : Corsair HS35 Gaming Headset

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