First PC Build

[bern4_]

Budget (including currency): 1500€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Competitive Fortnite, Apex Legends, PUBG, Valorant, GTA V. All low settings for best performance.

Other details: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/98wtWt 

 

What do you think of this build? What should i change to make it better (?), if anything.

 

[TheLANguy]

You could definitely go for a cheaper motherboard such as the MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 which is ATX and has WIFI. You could further cut down the cost by going Micro ATX.

 

Also, what CPU cooler are you looking at? The Thermalright Peerless Assassin is a solid option if it is available in your country.

[filpo]

3 hours ago, bern4_ said:

Budget (including currency): 1500€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Competitive Fortnite, Apex Legends, PUBG, Valorant, GTA V. All low settings for best performance.

Other details: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/98wtWt 

 

What do you think of this build? What should i change to make it better (?), if anything.

 

I'd say get a 7900 xt

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€199.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€164.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€123.48 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Mushkin Tempest 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€79.90 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€807.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€52.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€119.90 @ Alternate) 
Total: €1548.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 08:43 CET+0100

 

Or a 7800 xt with a 7800X3D

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€369.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€36.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€179.85 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€123.48 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€519.00 @ Alternate) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€52.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€119.90 @ Alternate) 
Total: €1506.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-19 08:44 CET+0100

[coltswagen]

2 hours ago, TheLANguy said:

You could definitely go for a cheaper motherboard such as the MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 which is ATX and has WIFI. You could further cut down the cost by going Micro ATX.

 

Also, what CPU cooler are you looking at? The  Thermalright Peerless Assassin is a solid option if it is available in your country.

the 7600 runs hot 

 air cooling wont be sufficent enough for it, personally for like 30 more dollars you can get a really solid water cooler ( veetro v240)

[coltswagen]

what is going on???

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, coltswagen said:

air cooling wont be sufficent enough for it

Yes it will, have you seen how the thermalright PA120 performs?

 

3 minutes ago, coltswagen said:

what is going on???

Idk bro, what is going on?

 

4 minutes ago, coltswagen said:

the 7600 runs hot 

This is with the stock cooler, also it's one example, it's definitely easier to cool than the 7600x

 

Also if you read that thread more in depth @Blqckqut suggests they might not have put thermal paste on which they didn't respond to 

[coltswagen]

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

Yes it will, have you seen how the thermalright PA120 performs?

 

Idk bro, what is going on?

 

This is with the stock cooler, also it's one example, it's definitely easier to cool than the 7600x

 

Also if you read that thread more in depth @Blqckqut suggests they might not have put thermal paste on which they didn't respond to 

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

Yes it will, have you seen how the thermalright PA120 performs?

 

Idk bro, what is going on?

 

This is with the stock cooler, also it's one example, it's definitely easier to cool than the 7600x

 

Also if you read that thread more in depth @Blqckqut suggests they might not have put thermal paste on which they didn't respond to 

in the build he mentioned it didn't have a cooler so I'm assuming he used a stock cooler. amd stock coolers aren't that great but I'm also factoring in that future CPUs if he wanted to upgrade, the pa120 dose perform great but air cooling is going to become obsolete in a few short years. And the pa120 is quite bulky and annoying to look at, water cooling is more effective than air cooling for me 30 dollars more for prettier looks and better performance ill take that. Air coolers are quite good at relocating heat away from the CPU, but keep in mind that heat is then dispersed into the case. This can raise the ambient temperature, so after long gaming sessions the water cooling will be better.

[filpo]

Just now, coltswagen said:

the pa120 dose perform great but air cooling is going to become obsolete in a few short years.

what?

 

Just now, coltswagen said:

And the pa120 is quite bulky and annoying to look at,

that's subjective

3 minutes ago, coltswagen said:

water cooling is more effective than air cooling for me 30 dollars more for prettier looks and better performance ill take that

considering it matches a lian li galahad 240 a cheaper AIO won't do much better if at all better 

It could even get quite close to the arctic liquid freezer ii 280 which is quite a well known AIO in terms of price to performance 

And at a lower 123w heat load (closer to an r7) the PA120 is only 2 and a half degrees off a 360mil radiator

6 minutes ago, coltswagen said:

amd stock coolers aren't that great

What? yes they are

If it can tame even a 7600x under gaming I'm sure a 7600 will be fine. They won't be doing any productivity so temps should never break 75 degrees even under a stock cooler let alone a PA120

 

10 minutes ago, coltswagen said:

Air coolers are quite good at relocating heat away from the CPU, but keep in mind that heat is then dispersed into the case

you mean outside the case? Like every other case out there?

There's always at least a fan or two in the case to get that hot air out or get cool air in. That's why cases have holes in the back 

These are all just behind the cpu cooler exhaust so that hot air would be exhausted into the room you're in

13 minutes ago, coltswagen said:

so after long gaming sessions the water cooling will be better.

the radiator will heat up nonetheless, and still that air will have to be exhausted the same way as air coolers, unless you front mount the AIO in which case it's even worse than an air cooler because it'll be sacrificing cpu temps for worse gpu temps cuz of the fans pulling in hot air through the radiator

[coltswagen]

is

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

what?

 

that's subjective

considering it matches a lian li galahad 240 a cheaper AIO won't do much better if at all better 

It could even get quite close to the arctic liquid freezer ii 280 which is quite a well known AIO in terms of price to performance 

And at a lower 123w heat load (closer to an r7) the PA120 is only 2 and a half degrees off a 360mil radiator

What? yes they are

If it can tame even a 7600x under gaming I'm sure a 7600 will be fine. They won't be doing any productivity so temps should never break 75 degrees even under a stock cooler let alone a PA120

 

you mean outside the case? Like every other case out there?

There's always at least a fan or two in the case to get that hot air out or get cool air in. That's why cases have holes in the back 

These are all just behind the cpu cooler exhaust so that hot air would be exhausted into the room you're in

the radiator will heat up nonetheless, and still that air will have to be exhausted the same way as air coolers, unless you front mount the AIO in which case it's even worse than an air cooler because it'll be sacrificing cpu temps for worse gpu temps cuz of the fans pulling in hot air through the radiator

2 and a half degrees is still better dawg???  lets compare a pa120 and a stock amd wrath cooler. 

you can VERY obviously see that the pa120 handles it MUCH better. air cooling will become obsolute in a couple of years 

 

[filpo]

6 hours ago, coltswagen said:

2 and a half degrees is still better

yes but that AIO is triple the price

 

6 hours ago, coltswagen said:

dawg

kool kid 

 

6 hours ago, coltswagen said:

air cooling will become obsolute in a couple of years 

'will' is a bold statement. Air cooling was going to become obsolete about a year ago until the thermalright PA120 and Deepcool AK620 dropped and brought NH-D15 performance to a cooler half or a third of the price

 

6 hours ago, coltswagen said:

 

i don't think broski read the comments.  It was a question, not a statement

[coltswagen]

16 hours ago, filpo said:

yes but that AIO is triple the price

 

kool kid 

 

'will' is a bold statement. Air cooling was going to become obsolete about a year ago until the thermalright PA120 and Deepcool AK620 dropped and brought NH-D15 performance to a cooler half or a third of the price

 

i don't think broski read the comments.  It was a question, not a statement

well, this is mostly subjective stuff were talking about we can beg to differ and i found this convorsation to be quite productive. i hope to see you on the future forum posts