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Creating a single USB drive for Win8.1 installation for BOTH Legacy and UEFI systems

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I have "worked around" this problem by using Rufus to create a UEFI-only installation USB. Guess I'll have to rely on having 2 USBs instead of one. Well, not too bad considering I have more than enough USB sticks.

Thanks everyone for your input! 

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Dear LTT forumers,

I am struggling to create a bootable USB drive for the installation of Win8.1.

"Wait a minute, Win8.1 is terrible and receives no support, don't install it!" - Thanks for worrying, but I have reasons which I can not disclose due to an NDA.

I need to be able to install W8.1 on both UEFI and Legacy systems. Currently, I am struggling with creating it properly.

I have been following this video, but my USB does not boot into UEFI mode, only in legacy.


What am I doing wrong?

Thanks a lot! ❤️

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16 minutes ago, da na said:

You can boot from a legacy drive on a UEFI system. Why not just create a MBR/legacy boot drive that will work with legacy and UEFI systems

I would love to do that - maybe my USBs are not MBR. I will try changing that and trying an installation again. Thanks! 

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When I create a Windows 10 drive using the Windows Media Creation tool, the drive is bootable in both modes. No idea how far back you can go with that.

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2 hours ago, da na said:

You can boot from a legacy drive on a UEFI system. Why not just create a MBR/legacy boot drive that will work with legacy and UEFI systems

 

2 hours ago, thevictor390 said:

When I create a Windows 10 drive using the Windows Media Creation tool, the drive is bootable in both modes. No idea how far back you can go with that.

I tried making an installation USB using Rufus now, still no luck booting into it on a Toshiba Satellite C50A. My Win10 USB worked flawlessly, but I'd really need to get Win8 running on the device. 

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1 hour ago, Real_Smoky said:

I tried making an installation USB using Rufus now, still no luck booting into it on a Toshiba Satellite

That is what I suggest, rufus, as it specifically has settings for mbr and uefi mode.

 

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I have "worked around" this problem by using Rufus to create a UEFI-only installation USB. Guess I'll have to rely on having 2 USBs instead of one. Well, not too bad considering I have more than enough USB sticks.

Thanks everyone for your input! 

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