Gpu upgrade

[Brecht Janssen]

 

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  Mostly gaming

Current specs:

r5 3600x

16gb ddr4 

Asus B450i ITX board

evga gtx1060 6gb ftw

Corsair cx550m

 

I was looking in to upgrade my gpu to an second hand rtx3080 10gb or rx6800 (xt). Wich one should I choose? Would ray tracing and DLSS make the rtx3080 the better choice? 

 

they are around the same price range, €450-€500.

 

I know I need to upgrade my psu to atleast 850W I guess.

 

 

 

[asheenlevrai]

What is the current price for an Rx7800XT in your region?

In my region it's (equivalent to) €480. This would be the best deal in that price range IMO.

(800W PSU required)

[PDifolco]

46 minutes ago, asheenlevrai said:

What is the current price for an Rx7800XT in your region?

In my region it's (equivalent to) €480. This would be the best deal in that price range IMO.

(800W PSU required)

In Europe we have to pay additional 20% VAT, 7800XT and 4070 are in the 600EUR range, so above OP budget

But they're good choice, perform as well if not better than a 3080, and more efficient

[venomtail]

Something like a 7700XT or definitely a 7800XT would be a much better choice. If you're looking at the used market you could aim for a 6800XT-6900XT.

 

1 hour ago, Brecht Janssen said:

I was looking in to upgrade my gpu to an second hand rtx3080 10gb or rx6800 (xt). Wich one should I choose? Would ray tracing and DLSS make the rtx3080 the better choice? 

3080 for playable raytracing is bare minimum. 60fps at best. I'd say to stay away from raytracing still until two more generations at least before it matures.

[Tegneren]

The 3080 would be a better option if ray tracing is a necessity, but the 16 GB of Vram on the 6800XT means it will probably age better with newer games. 

[asheenlevrai]

1 hour ago, PDifolco said:

In Europe we have to pay additional 20% VAT, 7800XT and 4070 are in the 600EUR range, so above OP budget

But they're good choice, perform as well if not better than a 3080, and more efficient

If you can speak German (or use a little Google translate), This website seems to ship in most European countries (never tested it myself though, so let me know if I'm wrong).

 

 - Rx 7800xt for ~€457 (price in CHF but similar to €)

 - Radeon Cards

 - RTX cards

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, asheenlevrai said:

If you can speak German (or use a little Google translate), This website seems to ship in most European countries (never tested it myself though, so let me know if I'm wrong).

 

 - Rx 7800xt for ~€457 (price in CHF but similar to €)

 - Radeon Cards

 - RTX cards

 

26 minutes ago, Tegneren said:

The 3080 would be a better option if ray tracing is a necessity, but the 16 GB of Vram on the 6800XT means it will probably age better with newer games. 

Problem is there'll be a huge bottleneck at 1080p with the 3600x

 

2 hours ago, Brecht Janssen said:

 

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  Mostly gaming

Current specs:

r5 3600x

16gb ddr4 

Asus B450i ITX board

evga gtx1060 6gb ftw

Corsair cx550m

 

I was looking in to upgrade my gpu to an second hand rtx3080 10gb or rx6800 (xt). Wich one should I choose? Would ray tracing and DLSS make the rtx3080 the better choice? 

 

they are around the same price range, €450-€500.

 

I know I need to upgrade my psu to atleast 850W I guess.

 

 

 

best you could go is a 6700 xt without a bottleneck at 1080p and then get a 1000w pcie 5 psu

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€352.95 @ Megekko) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€165.21 @ Azerty) 
Total: €518.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-24 11:57 CEST+0200

[asheenlevrai]

16 minutes ago, asheenlevrai said:

If you can speak German (or use a little Google translate), This website seems to ship in most European countries (never tested it myself though, so let me know if I'm wrong).

 

 - Rx 7800xt for ~€457 (price in CHF but similar to €)

 - Radeon Cards

 - RTX cards

Oh yeah, sorry they don't ship to Belgium.

I didn't pay attention, my bad.

[Tegneren]

51 minutes ago, filpo said:

best you could go is a 6700 xt without a bottleneck at 1080p and then get a 1000w pcie 5 psu

Why would you go with a 1000w PSU for a 6700XT? thats waaaay overkill.

I get leaving some room for future upgrades, but for a 6700XT/3600X combo a good 600W unit would be enough.  With a 750/850w there is plenty room for a future upgrade of both CPU and GPU

[Brecht Janssen]

3 hours ago, asheenlevrai said:

What is the current price for an Rx7800XT in your region?

In my region it's (equivalent to) €480. This would be the best deal in that price range IMO.

(800W PSU required)

new price is around €570. In Europe all this stuff is more expensive than in other parts of the world.

[Brecht Janssen]

2 hours ago, PDifolco said:

In Europe we have to pay additional 20% VAT, 7800XT and 4070 are in the 600EUR range, so above OP budget

But they're good choice, perform as well if not better than a 3080, and more efficient

Yeah everything is more expensive here xd

[Brecht Janssen]

2 hours ago, venomtail said:

Something like a 7700XT or definitely a 7800XT would be a much better choice. If you're looking at the used market you could aim for a 6800XT-6900XT.

 

3080 for playable raytracing is bare minimum. 60fps at best. I'd say to stay away from raytracing still until two more generations at least before it matures.

Will be looking at those! The only thing for now I would use raytracing with would be minecraft hahaha.

[Brecht Janssen]

1 hour ago, Tegneren said:

The 3080 would be a better option if ray tracing is a necessity, but the 16 GB of Vram on the 6800XT means it will probably age better with newer games. 

Even the 3080 using DLSS, the 6800xt would be better? I get it in the long term with the bigger Vram yes

[Brecht Janssen]

1 hour ago, filpo said:

 

Problem is there'll be a huge bottleneck at 1080p with the 3600x

 

best you could go is a 6700 xt without a bottleneck at 1080p and then get a 1000w pcie 5 psu

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€352.95 @ Megekko) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€165.21 @ Azerty) 
Total: €518.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-24 11:57 CEST+0200

I get that it will be a bottleneck, but it is also kinda future proof? 1000W psu would be kinda overkill, and it would not fit since i'm still using my 'unique' corsair 380T mini itx case , so it would not fit.

[Brecht Janssen]

1 hour ago, asheenlevrai said:

Oh yeah, sorry they don't ship to Belgium.

I didn't pay attention, my bad.

no problem!

[Brecht Janssen]

27 minutes ago, Tegneren said:

Why would you go with a 1000w PSU for a 6700XT? thats waaaay overkill.

I get leaving some room for future upgrades, but for a 6700XT/3600X combo a good 600W unit would be enough.  With a 750/850w there is plenty room for a future upgrade of both CPU and GPU

I'll be looking at the 6700xt aswell.

[filpo]

19 minutes ago, Brecht Janssen said:

but it is also kinda future proof

no such thing, buy what you need now and then if you need something else in the future that's better, get that

 

46 minutes ago, Tegneren said:

Why would you go with a 1000w PSU for a 6700XT? thats waaaay overkill.

 

47 minutes ago, Tegneren said:

I get leaving some room for future upgrades, but for a 6700XT/3600X combo a good 600W unit would be enough

450w is enough

 

The only really 'futureproofable' component of a pc is the psu, so i thought why not. Sure you could get an 850w or 600w 

[filpo]

29 minutes ago, Brecht Janssen said:

1000W psu would be kinda overkill, and it would not fit since i'm still using my 'unique' corsair 380T mini itx case , so it would not fit.

then get something like the rm750e or rm850e

 

[Brecht Janssen]

4 hours ago, filpo said:

then get something like the rm750e or rm850e

 

Was looking at the white Corsair rm850e yes

[Brecht Janssen]

So I am looking at a new gpu, currently looking at the reference 7800 xt and the asrock 7800 xt challenger. Since the max gpu length in my case is 290mm. 

 

The difference between a 7700 xt and 7800 xt was less than €100 so the 7800 xt would be the best choice?

 

Would upgrade my psu to a rm850e from corsair, it is on sale for €99.

 

Can't really find gpu reviews for the asrock challenger and the reference card. Does anyone have one of them? Reference card looks a bit more premium and weights slightly more.

[TatamiMatt]

On 11/18/2023 at 8:45 PM, Brecht Janssen said:

So I am looking at a new gpu, currently looking at the reference 7800 xt and the asrock 7800 xt challenger. Since the max gpu length in my case is 290mm. 

 

The difference between a 7700 xt and 7800 xt was less than €100 so the 7800 xt would be the best choice?

 

Would upgrade my psu to a rm850e from corsair, it is on sale for €99.

 

Can't really find gpu reviews for the asrock challenger and the reference card. Does anyone have one of them? Reference card looks a bit more premium and weights slightly more.

Dont go for the reference card, it runs much hotter than any equivalent spec GPU on the market, for whichever AMD GPU tier you go for.

Id opt for the sapphire Pulse or the Asrock one youve mentioned if you need sub 290mm