Friend needs new PC

[aratherunusualme]

Budget (including currency): 1100-1200 €

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: City Skylines, Anno, and other newer games like Starfield. 1080p atm, but possibly 1440p in the future. Light production workloads too, but mainly gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Hello, 

my friend wanted to get himself a new computer so he came to me for advice. I came up with the following parts list:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/qTt4MV

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€232.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€40.00)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€199.79 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€78.18 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€47.97 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€334.00 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case  (€133.55 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€111.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1178.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-14 19:05 CEST+0200

 

He wants to go with AM5 because of the possible longevity of the socket and thus future upgrade-ability.

 

 

Please leave your suggestions for improvements, thanks.

[filpo]

6 minutes ago, aratherunusualme said:

Budget (including currency): 1100-1200 €

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: City Skylines, Anno, and other newer games like Starfield. 1080p atm, but possibly 1440p in the future. Light production workloads too, but mainly gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Hello, 

my friend wanted to get himself a new computer so he came to me for advice. I came up with the following parts list:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/qTt4MV

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€232.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€40.00)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€199.79 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€78.18 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€47.97 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€334.00 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case  (€133.55 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€111.90 @ Alza)
Total: €1178.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-14 19:05 CEST+0200

 

He wants to go with AM5 because of the possible longevity of the socket and thus future upgrade-ability.

 

 

Please leave your suggestions for improvements, thanks.

I'd say get a 7800 XT 

try this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€232.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.29 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€136.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€119.17 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€49.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€542.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€52.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PM850D 850 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€96.98 @ Alternate) 
Total: €1270.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-14 19:42 CEST+0200

[Tetras]

1 hour ago, aratherunusualme said:

Please leave your suggestions for improvements, thanks.

 

- I prefer to buy a 7700 and use the included cooler (wraith prism) than buy a peerless assassin, but the peerless assassin is great value.

- I upgraded the storage to 2TB, 1TB is going to run low very fast for those kind of modded games and production stuff.

- Cheaper case and motherboard, just to make some room in the budget, but the board is obviously a compromise that you may not like.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/QynwgB

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€322.68 @ Caseking) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte A620M GAMING X Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€117.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€119.89 @ Cyberport) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€101.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€334.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€75.76 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€113.92 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Total: €1186.05

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-14 20:34 CEST+0200

[Why_Me]

https://geizhals.de/   <--- check this site for lower prices on PC components.

 

The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€232.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€40.00) 
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€182.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€78.18 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€101.90 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€334.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€68.89 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Power Supply: *EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€111.90 @ Alza) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€4.62 @ Aquatuning) 
Total: €1155.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-14 21:43 CEST+0200

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/  

 

   

[aratherunusualme]

Thank you for your recommendations.

 

I talked again with my friend.

He already bought the Motherboard, because he gets Starfield as a bonus with it.

Also he decided now on the Fractal Meshify 2 Compact as a case, because he likes it visually and it has a USB-C front header.

 

17 hours ago, filpo said:

I'd say get a 7800 XT 

Sadly this would be over budget as 1200 would be the upper limit possible.

 

16 hours ago, Tetras said:

I prefer to buy a 7700

It costs 100 Eur more, but the extra performance it gives is imo not worth the extra price

 

15 hours ago, Why_Me said:

https://geizhals.de/

I am aware of Geizhals, but thanks for the hint. Currently we are using idealo.de for the best deals.

 

[filpo]

5 hours ago, aratherunusualme said:

Thank you for your recommendations.

 

I talked again with my friend.

He already bought the Motherboard, because he gets Starfield as a bonus with it.

Also he decided now on the Fractal Meshify 2 Compact as a case, because he likes it visually and it has a USB-C front header.

 

Sadly this would be over budget as 1200 would be the upper limit possible.

 

It costs 100 Eur more, but the extra performance it gives is imo not worth the extra price

 

I am aware of Geizhals, but thanks for the hint. Currently we are using idealo.de for the best deals.

 

I'd still get the build even if it is a bit over budget

 

5 hours ago, aratherunusualme said:

It costs 100 Eur more, but the extra performance it gives is imo not worth the extra pric

for gaming it's not 

 

You could try this build but it'll perform quite a bit worse than the 7800 xt build and this one's only 60 euros less

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€232.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.29 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€148.33 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  (€119.17 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€49.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (€479.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€52.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PM850D 850 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€96.98 @ Alternate) 
Total: €1217.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-15 18:56 CEST+0200