Need Help Picking Components

[EZBakeNShake]

Budget (including currency): $2k USD

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Premiere Pro (4K Video Editing), Gaming

Other details I have a parts list set up already, but I want some help making sure I make the right choices. Here is the parts list:

CPU: Intel Core i7 13700K

Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory

Storage is already in place.

GPU: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB 

Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini 

PSU: Cooler Master V750 SFX GOLD 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular

OS: Windows 11

Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz

 

I’ve been torn between an RTX 3070 Ti and a 4070, anyone have any input on that? Thanks!

 

 

 

[Why_Me]

4070 Ti > 4070

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($346.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($96.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Adorama) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($121.98 @ Other World Computing) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1928.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-02 19:18 EDT-0400 

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html   

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml   

 

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1649234797/F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K-F5-6000J3040F16GA2-RS5K  

 

https://www.crucial.com/products/ssd/crucial-p5-plus-ssd 

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N407TWF3OC-12GD#kf

 

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A850G-PCIE5  

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/  

 

 

 

 

The difference between the 12 gen locked i7 and unlocked i7 in one frame per second on average. I doubt it's any different with the 13 gen i7's.

 

[EZBakeNShake]

4 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

4070 Ti > 4070

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($346.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($96.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Adorama) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($121.98 @ Other World Computing) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1928.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-02 19:18 EDT-0400 

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html   

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml   

 

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1649234797/F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K-F5-6000J3040F16GA2-RS5K  

 

https://www.crucial.com/products/ssd/crucial-p5-plus-ssd 

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N407TWF3OC-12GD#kf

 

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A850G-PCIE5  

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/  

 

 

 

 

The difference between the 12 gen locked i7 and unlocked i7 in one frame per second on average. I doubt it's any different with the 13 gen i7's.

 

I would like to have an iGPU for troubleshooting should I need to (I have no other cards I can use for troubleshooting), and I would also like to overclock my CPU. Should I do the 4070 Ti instead of the 4070? How much faster is the Ti?

[Why_Me]

1 hour ago, EZBakeNShake said:

I would like to have an iGPU for troubleshooting should I need to (I have no other cards I can use for troubleshooting), and I would also like to overclock my CPU. Should I do the 4070 Ti instead of the 4070? How much faster is the Ti?

These 13 gen cpu's are pushed to their limit out of the box. The gains don't outweigh the cost seeing how you want no less than a 360 AIO and a 16 phase Z790 board and even then you'd be hard pressed to squeeze out another 3 - 5 extra FPS. If this build will be used for gaming then it's all about frames per second.

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8VqPxr/intel-core-i7-13700-21-ghz-16-core-processor-bx8071513700  

Intel Core i7-13700 $366.34 

[EZBakeNShake]

19 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

These 13 gen cpu's are pushed to their limit out of the box. The gains don't outweigh the cost seeing how you want no less than a 360 AIO and a 16 phase Z790 board and even then you'd be hard pressed to squeeze out another 3 - 5 extra FPS. If this build will be used for gaming then it's all about frames per second.

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8VqPxr/intel-core-i7-13700-21-ghz-16-core-processor-bx8071513700  

Intel Core i7-13700 $366.34 

Ok. Issue with big air coolers like the one you recommended is that they’re a pain to get on. I’ve tried working with an old huge Noctua air cooler before, and I didn’t even want to touch it because of how much of a pain it looked like to get off and on. Also it’s over my budget because I’m adding in a monitor too. I want to play games at 1440p 170 Hz. This build won’t just be used for gaming, I also want to edit 4K footage in Premiere Pro with it. I also prefer the look of the O11 Dynamic Mini, plus I have limited desk space for the case so I think it would fit better.

[brob]

I'd suggest an mATX motherboard. This would allow for top mounting a 360 AIO. 

 

Go all SSD storage. 

 

Not sure how much RGB is desired. Included a 3-pack for side and rear.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($364.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($151.44 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z790M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($194.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($118.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($118.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  ($599.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.00 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  ($140.00 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST A-RGB 0dB 48.8 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($42.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2199.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-02 21:29 EDT-0400

[Why_Me]

10 minutes ago, EZBakeNShake said:

Ok. Issue with big air coolers like the one you recommended is that they’re a pain to get on. I’ve tried working with an old huge Noctua air cooler before, and I didn’t even want to touch it because of how much of a pain it looked like to get off and on. Also it’s over my budget because I’m adding in a monitor too. I want to play games at 1440p 170 Hz. This build won’t just be used for gaming, I also want to edit 4K footage in Premiere Pro with it. I also prefer the look of the O11 Dynamic Mini, plus I have limited desk space for the case so I think it would fit better.

Make sure to add some fans to that case.

https://lian-li.com/product/o11-dynamic-mini/ 

[EZBakeNShake]

27 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Make sure to add some fans to that case.

https://lian-li.com/product/o11-dynamic-mini/ 

Will do. Are UniFans a good option?

[EZBakeNShake]

32 minutes ago, brob said:

I'd suggest an mATX motherboard. This would allow for top mounting a 360 AIO. 

 

Go all SSD storage. 

 

Not sure how much RGB is desired. Included a 3-pack for side and rear.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($364.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($151.44 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z790M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($194.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($118.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($118.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  ($599.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.00 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  ($140.00 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST A-RGB 0dB 48.8 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($42.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQA1A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2199.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-02 21:29 EDT-0400

I already have 2 nVME SSDs, 1 1TB PCIe gen 4 and 1 2tb nVME gen 3 PCIe. I also already have a 2tb barracuda drive I got ages ago and never used, so I’ll add that. In total 5 TBs of storage. Are you sure the mATX motherboard in that case won’t look like honey I shrunk the motherboard? Also, 4070 or 4070 Ti? Maybe a 3070 Ti?

[brob]

9 minutes ago, EZBakeNShake said:

I already have 2 nVME SSDs, 1 1TB PCIe gen 4 and 1 2tb nVME gen 3 PCIe. I also already have a 2tb barracuda drive I got ages ago and never used, so I’ll add that. In total 5 TBs of storage. Are you sure the mATX motherboard in that case won’t look like honey I shrunk the motherboard? Also, 4070 or 4070 Ti? Maybe a 3070 Ti?

 

It would be helpful to edit the OP and indicate that storage is already in place. Also 1x1 TB and 1x2TB is clearer. 

 

The motherboard may look a little small in the case. But it's a worthwhile tradeoff to get better cpu cooling. Using the optional vertical GPU mounting bracket would hide the gap.

 

RTX 4070 vs RTX 4070 TI is a matter of budget more than anything else. Unfortunately the Puget Systems site is down for maintenance at the moment. My recollection is it reported a small difference in Premiere Pro between the two GPU.

[EZBakeNShake]

11 minutes ago, brob said:

 

It would be helpful to edit the OP and indicate that storage is already in place. Also 1x1 TB and 1x2TB is clearer. 

 

The motherboard may look a little small in the case. But it's a worthwhile tradeoff to get better cpu cooling. Using the optional vertical GPU mounting bracket would hide the gap.

 

RTX 4070 vs RTX 4070 TI is a matter of budget more than anything else. Unfortunately the Puget Systems site is down for maintenance at the moment. My recollection is it reported a small difference in Premiere Pro between the two GPU.

Done. Should the fans on the top be an intake or exhaust? Good to know about the GPU. Thanks!

[Why_Me]

1 hour ago, EZBakeNShake said:

Will do. Are UniFans a good option?

Those will work fine.

[EZBakeNShake]

17 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Those will work fine.

Ok.

[SorryBella]

4 hours ago, EZBakeNShake said:

Ok. Issue with big air coolers like the one you recommended is that they’re a pain to get on. I’ve tried working with an old huge Noctua air cooler before, and I didn’t even want to touch it because of how much of a pain it looked like to get off and on. Also it’s over my budget because I’m adding in a monitor too. I want to play games at 1440p 170 Hz. This build won’t just be used for gaming, I also want to edit 4K footage in Premiere Pro with it. I also prefer the look of the O11 Dynamic Mini, plus I have limited desk space for the case so I think it would fit better.

Do you mind O11 Air Mini? That includes some fans out of the box.

 

Also i would recommend AIO on these anyway, those tower cooler wont clear if you have to shift the fan in any way above the heatsink like to clear the RAM for example.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($366.34 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: EK AIO 280 D-RGB 116 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Silicon Power UD85 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($72.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Lian Li O11 Air Mini ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1809.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-03 01:50 EDT-0400

 

[brob]

4 hours ago, EZBakeNShake said:

Done. Should the fans on the top be an intake or exhaust? Good to know about the GPU. Thanks!

 

Exhaust. General rule of thumb is front, bottom, side intake; top, rear exhaust.

[EZBakeNShake]

15 hours ago, SorryBella said:

Do you mind O11 Air Mini? That includes some fans out of the box.

 

Also i would recommend AIO on these anyway, those tower cooler wont clear if you have to shift the fan in any way above the heatsink like to clear the RAM for example.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($366.34 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: EK AIO 280 D-RGB 116 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Silicon Power UD85 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($72.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Lian Li O11 Air Mini ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1809.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-03 01:50 EDT-0400

 

I don’t mind the O11 Air Mini at all, I will probably replace the stock fans with RGB aftermarket ones however. Unfortunately when you add the OS and monitor into that setup it goes over my budget. Also, from earlier messages should it be an ATX motherboard? Will I have room to top mount my AIO?

[EZBakeNShake]

14 hours ago, brob said:

 

Exhaust. General rule of thumb is front, bottom, side intake; top, rear exhaust.

Ok.

[SorryBella]

2 hours ago, EZBakeNShake said:

I don’t mind the O11 Air Mini at all, I will probably replace the stock fans with RGB aftermarket ones however. Unfortunately when you add the OS and monitor into that setup it goes over my budget. Also, from earlier messages should it be an ATX motherboard? Will I have room to top mount my AIO?

Youll want to side mount it, but yes top mount is doable.

And the board is ATX, you shouldve looked it up first.

 

[EZBakeNShake]

1 hour ago, SorryBella said:

Youll want to side mount it, but yes top mount is doable.

And the board is ATX, you shouldve looked it up first.

 

 

I was aware it was ATX, just making sure I could work with it.

[brob]

35 minutes ago, EZBakeNShake said:

I was aware it was ATX, just making sure I could work with it.

 

Check the product page at https://lian-li.com/product/o11-air-mini/. Scroll down to the the section headed

MODULAR BACK PANELS FOR COMPATIBILITY WITH ATX, M-ATX OR ITX MOTHERBOARDS

Spend some time puzzling out the various possible layouts.  Scroll left and right as well as vertically. Top mount AIO need between 52mm and 65mm clearance depending on model.

 

My reading is that with an ATX motherboard using a vertical mount GPU there can be 65mm clearance at the top. With a regular mounted GPU there is 25mm above an ATX motherboard.