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Threadripper Storage/NAS/Transcoding First Build Help needed

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Hello, this is my first post, I would like to get help in a built used for Storage/NAS/Transcoding Media files:

 

CPU: Threadripper PRO 5995WX

Motherboard: Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI II

RAM: 8x32GB 3200 DDR4

GPU: 2xRTX4090

OS: Linux

OS NVMe: 2x2TB (Maybe Samsung 980PRO not sure yet) to be in Raid1 for redundancy.

Media Pool Drives: 100TB (10x10TB HDD enterprise for NAS level) to be configured in Raid 5 for data protection.

Extra NVMe or SATA SSD: 2x1TB to be used as cache acceleration (read/write) for all the HDD above.

Extra SATA SSD: 2x1TB to be used as cache for general purpose/temp workflow (not associated with any other storage - free use storage).

Case: I've found a rackmount case that is good for the build and can host all of the mentioned drives.

Network: I will be adding network card maybe Broadcom with 2x10Gb/s ethernet ports.

 

 

Questions:

1- What kind of Raid/Storage controller would be good for this build? Single Controller or multiple ones?

2- Based on the controller, how do I connect the storage? buy a disk shelf? what is a good choice of that?

3- how do I connect that storage shelf to the server?

 

I am asking because I've read that it is not a good idea to run raid on the motherboard for critical workflow, plus the motherboard does not has enough ports to support all the media.

Plus, I would like to maintain the option of future expandability for the storage.

 

 

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Welcome to the forums!
Q1: LSI flashed in IT mode. Given that you're just doing media stuff it should be perfectly fine to grab a 4port single card
Q3: SAS cables! Look at the ports on your card, look at the ports on your shelf, get a cable that connects them. Them chonky bois.
Q2: Sorry, answered out of order. What? I thought you had a case that hosted the drives with, like, a backplane and stuff. Can you detail what case you're gonna use?
 

5950X/4090FE primary rig  |  1920X/1070Ti Unraid for dockers  |  200TB TrueNAS w/ 1:1 backup

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36 minutes ago, Bassamalsaqqa said:

a built used for Storage/NAS/Transcoding Media files

36 minutes ago, Bassamalsaqqa said:

CPU: Threadripper PRO 5995WX

Motherboard: Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI II

Alright, Imma stop you there... we're gonna need a lot more details of your workload before anyone is going to recommend a 5995WX for a NAS.

 

You could run it off an old i3 pretty realistically (I know because I did), depending on what else you want to do besides "NAS". The "what else" is the details we need.

 

36 minutes ago, Bassamalsaqqa said:

Media Pool Drives: 100TB (10x10TB HDD enterprise for NAS level) to be configured in Raid 5 for data protection.

You either get 100TB or RAID5, not both out of 10x10TB drives. You're probably better off getting fewer larger drives if you're really set on RAID5 (and not RAID6 or RAID10 or RAIDZsomething).

 

37 minutes ago, Bassamalsaqqa said:

GPU: 2xRTX4090

What exactly is your budget, anyways?

 

37 minutes ago, Bassamalsaqqa said:

OS: Linux

Any particular flavor?

Main System (Byarlant): Ryzen 9 5950X | Asus B550-Creator ProArt | EK 240mm Basic AIO | 32GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MT/s CL16 | XFX Speedster SWFT 210 RX 6600 | Samsung 990 PRO 2TB / Samsung 990 EVO Plus 4TB | Corsair RM750X | StarTech 4× USB 3.0 Card | Realtek RTL8127 10G NIC | Hyte Y60 Case | Dell U3415W Monitor | Keychron K12 Blue (RGB backlight)

 

Laptop (Narrative): Lenovo Flex 5 81X20005US | Ryzen 5 4500U | 16GB DDR4 3200MT/s (soldered) | Vega II 384SP Graphics | SKHynix P31 1TB NVMe SSD | Intel AX200 Wifi | Asus 2.5G USB NIC | Asus ProArt PA278QV | Keychron K4 Brown (white backlight)

 

Proxmox Server (Veda): Ryzen 7 3800XT | ASRock Rack X470D4U | Corsair H80i v2 | 128GB Micron DDR4 ECC 3200MT/s | 2× Samsung PM963a 960GB SSD / 4× WD 10TB / 4× Seagate 14TB Exos / 4× Micron MX500 2TB / 8× WD 12TB (custom external SAS enclosure) | Seasonic Prime Fanless 500W | Intel X550-T2 10G NIC | LSI 9300-8i HBA | Adaptec 82885T SAS Expander | Fractal Design Node 804 Case

 

Proxmox Server (La Vie en Rose): GMKtec Mini PC | Ryzen 7 5700U | 32GB Lexar DDR4 (SODIMM) | Vega II 512SP Graphics | Lexar 1TB 610 Pro SSD | 2× Realtek 8125 2.5G NICs


Media Center/Video Capture (Jesta Cannon): Ryzen 5 1600X | ASRock B450M Pro4 R2.0 | Noctua NH-L12S | 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s | EVGA GTX750Ti SC | UMIS NVMe SSD 256GB / TEAMGROUP MS30 1TB | Corsair CX450M | Viewcast Osprey 260e Video Capture | TrendNet (AQC107) 10G NIC | LG WH14NS40 BD-ROM | Silverstone Sugo SG-11 Case | Sony XR65A80K

 

Workbench (Doven Wolf): Lenovo m715q | Ryzen Pro 3 2200GE | 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s (SODIMM) | Vega 8 Graphics | SKHynix (OEM) 256GB NVMe SSD | uni 2.5G USB NIC | HDMI add-in module

 

Network:

Spoiler 
                       ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ───────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ── Cloud Gateway Max ══╦═ Pro XG 8 ══╦═ Flex 2.5-8 ══╦═ Doven Wolf
                      La Vie en Rose (DNS) ═╬═ Narrative  ╠═ Veda-NAS     ╠═ La Vie en Rose (vmbr)
                                Veda (DNS) ─┘             ╠═ Veda (vmbr)  ├─ Ptolemy (vmbr)
╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Ptolemy-NAS  ├─ Veda (Mgmt)
║   ┌ Closet ┐      ┌───────── Bedroom ─────────┐                         └─ Veda (IPMI)
╚═══ Flex XG ══╦╤═══ Flex XG ══╤╦═ Byarlant
       (PoE)   ║│              │╠═ Narrative 
Kitchen Jack ══╣└─ Dual PoE ┐  │╚═ Jesta Cannon*
   (Testing)   ║┌─ Injector ┘  └── Work Laptop
     Bedroom ══╝│        ┌─────── Media Center ────────────────────────────┐
     Jack #2    └──────── Switch 8 ────────────┬─ nanoHD Access Point (PoE)
Notes:                                         ├─ Sony PlayStation 4 
─── is Gigabit / ═══ is Multi-Gigabit          ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed from Bedroom to Media Center  └─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
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For what it's worth, I'm running a similar workload with an old Xeon E5-2696v2, 256GB DDR3, and a 1070 and K2200 (separate workloads vs power consumption). Running everything you're talking about plus a couple of Minecraft servers, multiple virtualised dev servers and databases, with 170TB of archive storage in raidz2, 10TB of active SSD storage and 2TB PCIE storage for working files. Latency is crazy-low and performance matches the network.

 

Unless you've got 20+ users with constant high usage, I really can't see why you'd need anything even close to the Threadripper, or even the 4090s. Hell, if the only reason for the 4090s is transcoding and you can find a way to use AV1, then you could just stick a pair of A380s in there.

 

I'm not saying you should go for something as old as mine, but a Xeon E5-v4 with 256GB RAM and a pair of A380s (if AV1 is appropriate) would probably result in very similar performance for those workloads at a vastly reduced cost.

 

As @AbydosOne said, we need to know more about the usage profile, 'cos it sounds like a monster machine that'll be 90% idle most of the time.

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You do not need a threadripper for a first time nas. A AM4 system with a or similar (apus are not recommended, this motherboard has a gpu onboard, you do not need a gpu even with a non-g cpu)with a board that supports ECC memory along with the ECC ram itself will do you just fine. You can get AM4 boards with IPMI, lots of sata ports, or other features, such as this one https://www.newegg.com/asrock-rack-x570d4u-supports-3rd-gen-amd-ryzen-processors-and-2nd-gen-amd-ryzen-processors-with-rade/p/N82E16813140057 

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