PC Building

[SamuraiTrav]

Budget (including currency):  below $4500 Dollars

Country: U.S

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gamewise im looking at FPS's (CoD, Dayz, Valorant, CSGO, R6S, Tarkov, Cyberpunk, Fallout, Skyrim, Destiny 2, Halo) with some other games like Smite, SWTOR, Dead Island 2, and GTA.

Parts im currently eyeing: 

Case	iBUYPOWER Trace 5 MR Tempered Glass ARGB Gaming Case
Case Fans	3x [ARGB] CORSAIR QL120 120mm Black PWM Fan Pack w/ Lighting Node CORE
Processor	Intel® Core™ i9-13900KF Processor (8X 3.00GHz + 16X 2.20GHz/36MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling	iBUYPOWER 360mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooler - Black
Memory	32 GB [16 GB X2] DDR5-6000MHz Memory Module - ADATA XPG Lancer (RGB LED)
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 -24GB GDDR6X (DLSS 3.0 – AI-Powered Performance)- MSI GAMING TRIO
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WiFi - WiFi, ARGB Header (2), USB 3.2 Ports (2 Type-C, 8 Type-A), M.2 Slot (5)
Power Supply	1200 Watt - Enermax Revolution ATX 3.0 - 80 PLUS Gold PCIe GEN 5, Fully Modular
Primary Storage	2TB Samsung 980 PRO M.2 PCIe Gen 4 NVMe SSD -- Gen 4 Read: 7000MB/s; Write: 5100MB/s, Gen 3 Read: 3500MB/s; Write: 3470 MB/s
Secondary Storage	4TB Samsung 870 QVO SSD -- Read: 560MB/s, Write: 530MB/s
Sound Card	3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Operating System	Windows 11 Home - (64-bit)

This will be my first desktop pc and I want it to be a monster for gaming/streaming. My current pc is a Alienware m15 gaming laptop so my knowledge of desktop's are slim to none. I was going to pair this with a Samsung Odyssey G7 32inch monitor at 240Hz. I'll accept knowledge, help, feedback, criticism, the whole nine yards. This whole build itself was made via me messing around with ibuypowers pc builder and the total cost for this is looking to be around $3948. I also know these are usually much cheaper building it yourself but I truly dont have the confidence within myself to do that.

[Aaron_T]

As you mentioned, you could save money building yourself for sure, but if you don't think you can then good on you for not getting in over your head and having a nightmare of an experience.

The only thing I'd modify for that spec is to get 64gb of RAM. If you're running games, screen capture, etc. all at the same time on the same system, then the extra RAM may be nice to have.

[SamuraiTrav]

4 minutes ago, Aaron_T said:

As you mentioned, you could save money building yourself for sure, but if you don't think you can then good on you for not getting in over your head and having a nightmare of an experience.

The only thing I'd modify for that spec is to get 64gb of RAM. If you're running games, screen capture, etc. all at the same time on the same system, then the extra RAM may be nice to have.

Looking at the options, they have no 64 GB Ram in the DDR5-6000MHz however they do have 64 GB RAM in the DDR5-5600MHz. So would the 64 be better than the 32?

[Aaron_T]

4 minutes ago, SamuraiTrav said:

Looking at the options, they have no 64 GB Ram in the DDR5-6000MHz however they do have 64 GB RAM in the DDR5-5600MHz. So would the 64 be better than the 32?

This is one thing that definitely does suck about system integrators. 6000mhz DDR5 64gb kits are super easy to get, and pretty much every CPU memory controller that runs DDR5 can handle that speed and capacity, but it's not an option for you to select. *sigh*

I do think the capacity is worth it, but what I'd do in your situation is to buy the PC from the System Integrator with the smallest amount of RAM you can configure, then buy a fast 64gb kit yourself: https://www.newegg.com/Newegg-Deals/EventSaleStore/ID-9447?N=100007611 601275376 601397651 601397951

Then once you get the system, swap out the RAM, and sell the RAM that came with the system on ebay or craigs list.

Swapping out RAM yourself is super easy. Much less scarry than building a whole system.
 

[Why_Me]

Plenty of local mom & pop PC / laptop repair shops will build your PC for you for a fee if you bring them the components. This way you know exactly what you're getting. Start googling them.  If you plan on streaming and you have a budget of $4,000 USD then you might as well do it right which means one PC for gaming with a seperate PC for streaming. This way you don't take a hit in frame rates.  If you want more storage for your streams then add a el cheapo 2TB Samsung SATA III SSD.

 

Gaming PC

 

500GB SSD for your OS.

2TB Storage SSD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($379.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($109.95 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($98.49 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  ($1149.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Adorama) 
Power Supply: *Asus TUF Gaming 850G 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($117.98 @ Other World Computing) 
Monitor: *HP OMEN 27QS 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor  ($349.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $2735.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-03 21:13 EDT-0400

 

Streaming PC

 

Use your Nvidia card to stream with via OBS.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

Add this capture card to this build. You can find it at Amazon, Bestbuy, etc ...

https://www.elgato.com/us/en/p/game-capture-4k60-pro 

Elgato 4K60 MK.2 Pro $249.99   

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG400 BK ARGB 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($161.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($62.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card  ($299.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($53.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Best Buy) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($117.98 @ Other World Computing) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: *Gigabyte G24F 2 23.8" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1191.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-03 19:24 EDT-0400

 

[PC HEROES]

37 minutes ago, SamuraiTrav said:

Budget (including currency):  below $4500 Dollars

Country: U.S

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gamewise im looking at FPS's (CoD, Dayz, Valorant, CSGO, R6S, Tarkov, Cyberpunk, Fallout, Skyrim, Destiny 2, Halo) with some other games like Smite, SWTOR, Dead Island 2, and GTA.

Parts im currently eyeing: 

Case	iBUYPOWER Trace 5 MR Tempered Glass ARGB Gaming Case
Case Fans	3x [ARGB] CORSAIR QL120 120mm Black PWM Fan Pack w/ Lighting Node CORE
Processor	Intel® Core™ i9-13900KF Processor (8X 3.00GHz + 16X 2.20GHz/36MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling	iBUYPOWER 360mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooler - Black
Memory	32 GB [16 GB X2] DDR5-6000MHz Memory Module - ADATA XPG Lancer (RGB LED)
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 -24GB GDDR6X (DLSS 3.0 – AI-Powered Performance)- MSI GAMING TRIO
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WiFi - WiFi, ARGB Header (2), USB 3.2 Ports (2 Type-C, 8 Type-A), M.2 Slot (5)
Power Supply	1200 Watt - Enermax Revolution ATX 3.0 - 80 PLUS Gold PCIe GEN 5, Fully Modular
Primary Storage	2TB Samsung 980 PRO M.2 PCIe Gen 4 NVMe SSD -- Gen 4 Read: 7000MB/s; Write: 5100MB/s, Gen 3 Read: 3500MB/s; Write: 3470 MB/s
Secondary Storage	4TB Samsung 870 QVO SSD -- Read: 560MB/s, Write: 530MB/s
Sound Card	3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Operating System	Windows 11 Home - (64-bit)

This will be my first desktop pc and I want it to be a monster for gaming/streaming. My current pc is a Alienware m15 gaming laptop so my knowledge of desktop's are slim to none. I was going to pair this with a Samsung Odyssey G7 32inch monitor at 240Hz. I'll accept knowledge, help, feedback, criticism, the whole nine yards. This whole build itself was made via me messing around with ibuypowers pc builder and the total cost for this is looking to be around $3948. I also know these are usually much cheaper building it yourself but I truly dont have the confidence within myself to do that.

Hello, I'm Chris and I build PCs for a living. If you need help building a PC I can do that for you. Not sure where you are at in the US but I'm in Philadelphia, PA. I will build it for you and have it shipped to you.

 

In this build I have put in all the main specs that the iBuyPower has. The build I have is a bit cheaper than what you estimated. I built it using NZXT parts to give it a nice look to it. If you don't like it it can all be changed. Also, I'm not sure that you needed the Sound Card but I added it anyway.

 

I have been building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please ask.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PcXGv3

 

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor  ($409.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken 360 RGB 78.02 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Motherboard: NZXT N7 Z790 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($217.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  ($1599.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H9 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: NZXT C1200 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($219.99 @ Best Buy)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus 32-bit 384 kHz Sound Card  ($129.99 @ B&H)
Case Fan: upHere T7SYC7 120 mm Fans 6-Pack  ($43.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: NZXT F120 RGB 50.18 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3696.88

[Dukesilver27-]

1 hour ago, SamuraiTrav said:

I was going to pair this with a Samsung Odyssey G7 32inch monitor at 240Hz.

Playing on a 1440p monitor with this rig is just way too overkill, it'd be better if you spend some money on a 4K monitor, get a slightly cheaper PC, and sell the current monitor.

 

By simply going with 13600K and an air cooler, you'd only lose very little performance while saving a ton of money, which could be allocated to a decent 4K monitor.

[Why_Me]

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[Dukesilver27-]

Just now, Why_Me said:

The OP plays online multiplayer first person shooter games such as CoD where more FPS = smoother game.  

More fps does not always equal to smoother game, 144fps and 240fps would feel the same. It's been proven that without an fps counter, no one can tell the difference between 144fps and 240fps, unless they really try to see the difference, even then only some noticed it.

It does give an advantage if you're skilled enough to take the advantage of the faster rate of information being refreshed on the screen, but it really depends on the person.

 

Anyway, with 13600K and 4090 in 4K, for those online games, 200+fps is easy, with or without DLSS.

And he also plays AAA games, where a 4K display would enhance his experience, therefore best of both worlds while sacrificing very little performance.

So, what is the point of your comment?

[SorryBella]

3 hours ago, SamuraiTrav said:

Parts im currently eyeing

you're eyeing a prebuilt. @Why_Me build is hitting the spot but really when you're spending the cash for streaming PC, either go for full x264 build or just stream off NVENC in your system. But that might not even matter at all if Twitch finally get off their laurels and support AV1 because that would heavily alleviate the bitrate starvation issue that 99% of hardware accelerated stream has. AV1 can stream at half the bitrate of x264 for similar quality, for reference.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($229.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($20.29 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($108.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GX2 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($66.98 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Elgato Game Capture 4K60 Pro MK.2, 4K60 HDR10 Capture and PassThrough, PCIe Capture Card, Superior Low Latency Technology  ($250.00) 
Total: $880.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-03 22:06 EDT-0400

 

You can save up 50$ going for HD60X and if you want something multipurpose thats your option besides hunting for discontinued HD60 or HD60S.