Help in finding a suitable UPS

[WesLionel]

Hi,

Currently new here so apologies if this is posted in the wrong place. Lately my UPS (Eaton 5L 650VA) had shut down itself randomly and beeped for a long time (this is when a typhoon hit our country) ever since I upgraded my PC. I did some digging and saw that my UPS can't handle my PC at the moment (correct me if I'm wrong). Currently finding a replacement since I don't want this thing to be a fire hazard in our home. What would be the best UPS that I should get? I found a "AWP Aide Pro LCD 900W-1500VA UPS" and was wondering if this would be enough. If not, what would be your recommendations? Listing everything in my PC and the things that connect to the UPS for a more detailed power draws. TYIA!
 

PC specs:
Ryzen 5 5600X
Thermalright Peerless Assassin PA120 SE
Gigabyte B550M DS3H
Teamgroup Dark Za 16GB 3200mhz
Gigabyte RX 6700XT OC 12GB
Kingston NV2 1TB
Seasonic FOCUS GX-750 WHITE 750W 80+ Gold
Montech X3 Mesh
 

Monitors:
Gigabyte M27Q and Dell D1918H

Link for the afore mentioned UPS: https://shopee.ph/AWP-Aide-Pro-LCD-900W-1500VA-UPS-with-AVR-Uninterruptible-Power-Supply-(6-Sockets)-i.358765028.6488685408?xptdk=394efdaf-a146-47a1-b70c-a130cbfad66c

[Hinjima]

3 minutes ago, WesLionel said:

Hi,

Currently new here so apologies if this is posted in the wrong place. Lately my UPS (Eaton 5L 650VA) had shut down itself randomly and beeped for a long time (this is when a typhoon hit our country) ever since I upgraded my PC. I did some digging and saw that my UPS can't handle my PC at the moment (correct me if I'm wrong). Currently finding a replacement since I don't want this thing to be a fire hazard in our home. What would be the best UPS that I should get? I found a "AWP Aide Pro LCD 900W-1500VA UPS" and was wondering if this would be enough. If not, what would be your recommendations? Listing everything in my PC and the things that connect to the UPS for a more detailed power draws. TYIA!
 

PC specs:
Ryzen 5 5600X
Thermalright Peerless Assassin PA120 SE
Gigabyte B550M DS3H
Teamgroup Dark Za 16GB 3200mhz
Gigabyte RX 6700XT OC 12GB
Kingston NV2 1TB
Seasonic FOCUS GX-750 WHITE 750W 80+ Gold
Montech X3 Mesh
 

Monitors:
Gigabyte M27Q and Dell D1918H

Link for the afore mentioned UPS: https://shopee.ph/AWP-Aide-Pro-LCD-900W-1500VA-UPS-with-AVR-Uninterruptible-Power-Supply-(6-Sockets)-i.358765028.6488685408?xptdk=394efdaf-a146-47a1-b70c-a130cbfad66c

I dont know anything about UPS's... Just wanted to say Hello! Welcome to the forum Hopefully some will give you answer shortly.

[Poinkachu]

1 hour ago, WesLionel said:

Hi,

Currently new here so apologies if this is posted in the wrong place. Lately my UPS (Eaton 5L 650VA) had shut down itself randomly and beeped for a long time (this is when a typhoon hit our country) ever since I upgraded my PC. I did some digging and saw that my UPS can't handle my PC at the moment (correct me if I'm wrong). Currently finding a replacement since I don't want this thing to be a fire hazard in our home. What would be the best UPS that I should get? I found a "AWP Aide Pro LCD 900W-1500VA UPS" and was wondering if this would be enough. If not, what would be your recommendations? Listing everything in my PC and the things that connect to the UPS for a more detailed power draws. TYIA!
 

PC specs:
Ryzen 5 5600X
Thermalright Peerless Assassin PA120 SE
Gigabyte B550M DS3H
Teamgroup Dark Za 16GB 3200mhz
Gigabyte RX 6700XT OC 12GB
Kingston NV2 1TB
Seasonic FOCUS GX-750 WHITE 750W 80+ Gold
Montech X3 Mesh
 

Monitors:
Gigabyte M27Q and Dell D1918H

Link for the afore mentioned UPS: https://shopee.ph/AWP-Aide-Pro-LCD-900W-1500VA-UPS-with-AVR-Uninterruptible-Power-Supply-(6-Sockets)-i.358765028.6488685408?xptdk=394efdaf-a146-47a1-b70c-a130cbfad66c

Keep in mind, I'm not a UPS Pro, only someone that did some bit learning when I was looking for UPS awhile ago.

Your CPU at default will use like 65-70w

Your GPU probably around 230-250w

I'd say your system at most will use 440 watts if you can run your CPU & GPU at it's max & your PSU is 80% efficient.

 

Unless you run synthetic benchmarks they are less likely to hit their max power draw often.

If you want to be real sure about the usual wattage of your system then you will have to measure using a wattmeter, they costs like $10-$15. And I recommend buying one, since it's quite a useful item to have around. (Just don't use it 24/7. Measure, then unplug the meter).

Example of one : https://shopee.ph/《COD》Digital-Watt-Power-Meter-Electric-Monitor-US-220V-Plug-Socket-Voltage-Wattmeter-Power-Consum-i.752327645.17767000973

 

But I generally buy UPS with capacity atleast 1.5 my usage. So that the battery is less stressed and therefore can lasts longer.

 

How much battery capacity is enough depends on how long you want to run your system on battery. If it's just giving you leeway time to gracefully shut down your system, 900w should be more than plenty.

 

I honestly never heard the brand of UPS you linked, maybe it's PH local product ?
Anyway, just make sure they atleast have a service center that you can reach easily, and good warranty.

Sending a UPS back & forth to service center can be kinda annoying & costly if you ever need to send it (claiming battery warranty, etc).

 

And probably best to consider it works at 0.5 power factor, which means 750w (1500VA x 0.5). Which IMHO, still quite plenty for your system.

Since IMHO, even APC's "budget" option for (I think) SE Asia only, only works at 0.56pf (they said this on their spec page). Quoted the word budget because APC budget option is kinda expensive compared to like CyberPower & Prolink.

[Agall]

1 hour ago, WesLionel said:

Hi,

Currently new here so apologies if this is posted in the wrong place. Lately my UPS (Eaton 5L 650VA) had shut down itself randomly and beeped for a long time (this is when a typhoon hit our country) ever since I upgraded my PC. I did some digging and saw that my UPS can't handle my PC at the moment (correct me if I'm wrong). Currently finding a replacement since I don't want this thing to be a fire hazard in our home. What would be the best UPS that I should get? I found a "AWP Aide Pro LCD 900W-1500VA UPS" and was wondering if this would be enough. If not, what would be your recommendations? Listing everything in my PC and the things that connect to the UPS for a more detailed power draws. TYIA!
 

PC specs:
Ryzen 5 5600X
Thermalright Peerless Assassin PA120 SE
Gigabyte B550M DS3H
Teamgroup Dark Za 16GB 3200mhz
Gigabyte RX 6700XT OC 12GB
Kingston NV2 1TB
Seasonic FOCUS GX-750 WHITE 750W 80+ Gold
Montech X3 Mesh
 

Monitors:
Gigabyte M27Q and Dell D1918H

Link for the afore mentioned UPS: https://shopee.ph/AWP-Aide-Pro-LCD-900W-1500VA-UPS-with-AVR-Uninterruptible-Power-Supply-(6-Sockets)-i.358765028.6488685408?xptdk=394efdaf-a146-47a1-b70c-a130cbfad66c

I'd say a 1500VA is plenty for your system. Generally the higher end UPS's will come with the fancy LCD display which are a great feature for measuring wattage draw and checking the quality of your AC input. I personally have an APC branded 1500VA that also has front USB ports I use for some devices to charge like my headset.

[Agall]

4 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Keep in mind, I'm not a UPS Pro, only someone that did some learning when I was looking for UPS awhile ago. So there's probably some stuffs that I got wrong.

Your CPU at default will use like 65-70w at most.

Your GPU probably around 230-250w

I'd say your system at most will use 440 watts if you can run your CPU & GPU at it's max & your PSU is 80% efficient.

 

Unless you run synthetic benchmarks they are less likely to hit their max power draw often.

If you want to be real sure about the usual wattage of your system then you will have to measure using a wattmeter, they costs like $10-$15. And I recommend buying one, since it's quite a useful item to have around. (Just don't use it 24/7. Measure, then unplug the meter).

 

But I generally buy UPS with capacity atleast 1.5 my usage. So that the battery is less stressed and therefore can lasts longer.

 

How much battery capacity is enough depends on how long you want to run your system on battery. If it's just giving you leeway time to gracefully shut down your system, 900w should be more than plenty.

 

I honestly never heard the brand of UPS you linked, maybe it's PH local product ?
Anyway, just make sure they atleast have a service center that you can reach easily, and good warranty.

And probably best to consider it works at 0.5 power factor, which means 750w (1500VA x 0.5).

Since IMHO, even APC's "budget" option for (I think) SE Asia only only works at 0.56pf. Quoted the word budget because APC budget option is kinda expensive compared to like CyberPower & Prolink.

The power factor should also vary by input voltage which looks to be 220-240VAC per Google in SE Asia. An advertised 0.6 PF isn't too bad given that we're talking a higher AC voltage bus. 

 

GeoIP filter I impose prevents me from seeing the link to look at the actual UPS at hand, but 1500VA is more than plenty for the OP's system. I personally think bigger the better since there's really no downside to going bigger, especially with the value added features of monitoring.

[Poinkachu]

2 minutes ago, Agall said:

The power factor should also vary by input voltage which looks to be 220-240VAC per Google in SE Asia. An advertised 0.6 PF isn't too bad given that we're talking a higher AC voltage bus. 

Well, a lot of non international brands in SE asia often lies about their pf.
That's why I gave suggestion to consider the worst.

(I know because I live in SE Asia)

[Agall]

1 minute ago, Poinkachu said:

Well, a lot of non international brands in SE asia often lies about their pf.
That's why I gave suggestion to consider the worst.

In my opinion, as long as its an advertised Line-Interactive UPS, then its probably good if you're overbuying, which is generally a good idea.

 

Awp Wise AID1500 Pro LCD 1500VA / 900W UPS UPS – DynaQuest PC

 

Marketed as line-interactive with the expected sensing features. Not an APC, but far better than nothing.

[Poinkachu]

23 minutes ago, Agall said:

In my opinion, as long as its an advertised Line-Interactive UPS, then its probably good if you're overbuying, which is generally a good idea.

 

Awp Wise AID1500 Pro LCD 1500VA / 900W UPS UPS – DynaQuest PC

 

Marketed as line-interactive with the expected sensing features. Not an APC, but far better than nothing.

Well yeah. I did say getting a bigger capacity is a good idea so atleast the battery is less hammered.

I was basically just giving OP a tips not to expect 7th heaven if it's local brand, or worse (no reputation local brand)

Whichever brand he wants to buy that's up to him. I know APC products can be quite expensive for even the SE Asia only budget option.

I myself only bought Prolink & CyberPower since APC ones costs almost twice for the same VA.

 

If it actually works at the advertised pf, then all the better.

[WesLionel]

Thanks Poinkachu and Agall for the replies! I mainly use the UPS as a leeway to save my work and shut down the PC properly. I don't use it to game or work even if there is a blackout and what not. I was worried since I stumbled upon a post regarding pure and stepped sine waves and how it damaged a PSU without APFC so I was double checking everything. So to wrap up, will the afore mentioned AWP Wise AID UPS good to go (granted warranty is provided and they put accurate information on the product page) and are there any problems down the road that I should be wary of? 

 

While waiting, I also found another UPS that fits my budget and thankfully, its an international brand. It's the CyberPower VP1200ELCD UPS. It has lower VA and W so if this is a better option, can it support my current setup. Again, thank you guys for the reply!

Link for the CyberPower UPS: https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/cyberpower-vp1200elcd-ups-i1812974045-s7693205395.html / https://www.cyberpower.com/ph/en/product/sku/vp1200elcd

[manikyath]

from experience,  buy something  at least with a 24V battery (smaller units like yours usually have a 12V battery) because then power outages dont "punch" the battery as hard, and it'll have both MUCH better runtime, and the battery lifespan will be much improved.

 

past that.. my pc runs off a 1400VA UPS, i got the 1400VA one because of the bigger battery.