New computer build - Spec check

[Madegam]

Budget (including currency): ~$6,000 AUD

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly games ranging from good ol Minecraft to Doom Eternal, Blade and Sorcery (VR) and Forza Horizon 5.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I currently already have a Gigabyte M27QP (Highly recommend) which i will hopefully be getting 2 more in the near future or at least 1440p Monitors to have a 3x monitor setup. the Gigabyte monitor also support HDR in games with high refreash rate which my current RTX 2080 Super doesnt handle too nicely. I also intend to re-use my SSDs from my computer, one if not both. Definitely the M.2 Samsung 970 Evo 1TB will be used in the new computer and likely another M.2 if i can find a spare. Other than that, i am effectively hoping to have a second computer after this meaning motherboard, GPU, Power supply, CPU and cooler will all still be used in the another computer.

 

My current thoughts are in this part picker list:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Madegam/saved/gyGn23

 

I was also hoping for a small as possible build, I'm happy to size down the mother board as long as it can support at least 6 USB A connections and at least 1 USB C connection (Not including front IO).

Current worries is A: 64GB of ram is effectively unnecessary, an i9 is also unnecessary however also i would like as many cores as possible as i am currently going through university with a focus in Multi core programming & i tend to dabble with other programs that support multi cores.

Would like to stick with Asus if possible - i have found them to be really reliable but i am open to recommendations, hence why i am posting

 

Thanks for your help in advance

 

 

[Bob__]

1 minute ago, Madegam said:

Budget (including currency): ~$6,000 AUD

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly games ranging from good ol Minecraft to Doom Eternal, Blade and Sorcery (VR) and Forza Horizon 5.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I currently already have a Gigabyte M27QP (Highly recommend) which i will hopefully be getting 2 more in the near future or at least 1440p Monitors to have a 3x monitor setup. the Gigabyte monitor also support HDR in games with high refreash rate which my current RTX 2080 Super doesnt handle too nicely. I also intend to re-use my SSDs from my computer, one if not both. Definitely the M.2 Samsung 970 Evo 1TB will be used in the new computer and likely another M.2 if i can find a spare. Other than that, i am effectively hoping to have a second computer after this meaning motherboard, GPU, Power supply, CPU and cooler will all still be used in the another computer.

 

My current thoughts are in this part picker list:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Madegam/saved/gyGn23

 

I was also hoping for a small as possible build, I'm happy to size down the mother board as long as it can support at least 6 USB A connections and at least 1 USB C connection (Not including front IO).

Current worries is A: 64GB of ram is effectively unnecessary, an i9 is also unnecessary however also i would like as many cores as possible as i am currently going through university with a focus in Multi core programming & i tend to dabble with other programs that support multi cores.

Would like to stick with Asus if possible - i have found them to be really reliable but i am open to recommendations, hence why i am posting

 

Thanks for your help in advance

 

 

That MB is completely overkill

maybe AMD for gaming?

[filpo]

Just now, Madegam said:

Budget (including currency): ~$6,000 AUD

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly games ranging from good ol Minecraft to Doom Eternal, Blade and Sorcery (VR) and Forza Horizon 5.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I currently already have a Gigabyte M27QP (Highly recommend) which i will hopefully be getting 2 more in the near future or at least 1440p Monitors to have a 3x monitor setup. the Gigabyte monitor also support HDR in games with high refreash rate which my current RTX 2080 Super doesnt handle too nicely. I also intend to re-use my SSDs from my computer, one if not both. Definitely the M.2 Samsung 970 Evo 1TB will be used in the new computer and likely another M.2 if i can find a spare. Other than that, i am effectively hoping to have a second computer after this meaning motherboard, GPU, Power supply, CPU and cooler will all still be used in the another computer.

 

My current thoughts are in this part picker list:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Madegam/saved/gyGn23

 

I was also hoping for a small as possible build, I'm happy to size down the mother board as long as it can support at least 6 USB A connections and at least 1 USB C connection (Not including front IO).

Current worries is A: 64GB of ram is effectively unnecessary, an i9 is also unnecessary however also i would like as many cores as possible as i am currently going through university with a focus in Multi core programming & i tend to dabble with other programs that support multi cores.

Would like to stick with Asus if possible - i have found them to be really reliable but i am open to recommendations, hence why i am posting

 

Thanks for your help in advance

 

 

for gaming amd is best, go for this build, also quad channel isn't amazing, dual channel is best for stability (in general). and the 13900k is uncoolable Edited PCPP list:https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DwV2Xy

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

That MB is completely overkill

maybe AMD for gaming?

ye i agree, 7800x3d. Also ye its overkill and if they want x670 they can get something like the MSI x670 pro wifi

[Madegam]

2 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

That MB is completely overkill

maybe AMD for gaming?

Is there any particular AMD cpu you'd recommend for roughly the same performace? Ive always seen intel and know enough to have skipped the last few generations because of thermals but no idea about AMD's types/generations of CPUs

[Bob__]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/yQV2Xy

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($1139.00 @ BPC Technology) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($325.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($186.58 @ Amazon Australia) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($186.58 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: *Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($212.18 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  ($2699.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($259.00 @ BPC Technology) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($298.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $5504.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-21 23:34 AEST+1000

[filpo]

Just now, Madegam said:

Is there any particular AMD cpu you'd recommend for roughly the same performace? Ive always seen intel and know enough to have skipped the last few generations because of thermals but no idea about AMD's types/generations of CPUs

7800x3d and you can get much better performance than the 13900k. Also it can actually be cooled under 100 degrees 

[filpo]

Just now, Bob__ said:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($1139.00 @ BPC Technology) 

really?, thats actually not a good gaming chip for the money. Put the 7800x3d in there instead

 

[Bob__]

Just now, filpo said:

really?, thats actually not a good gaming chip for the money. Put the 7800x3d in there instead

 

actually yeah ur right

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, Madegam said:

Is there any particular AMD cpu you'd recommend for roughly the same performace? Ive always seen intel and know enough to have skipped the last few generations because of thermals but no idea about AMD's types/generations of CPUs

13900k thermals will shock you, even on a good cooler that CPU loves to go to 100°C and throttle

[Bob__]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2HNY3y

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($749.00 @ BPC Technology) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($325.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($186.58 @ Amazon Australia) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($186.58 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: *Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($212.18 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  ($2699.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($259.00 @ BPC Technology) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($298.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $5114.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-21 23:38 AEST+1000

[filpo]

Just now, podkall said:

13900k thermals will shock you, even on a good cooler that CPU loves to go to 100°C and throttle

i.e. don't get the 13900k unless you have the 5000w chiller linus showed off

 

[Bob__]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

13900k thermals will shock you, even on a good cooler that CPU loves to go to 100°C and throttle

I have a i5 that does the same thing with an NHD15

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Bob__ said:

Storage: *Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($212.18 @ Amazon Australia) 

he had a 4tb drive as well on that build

[Madegam]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

13900k thermals will shock you, even on a good cooler that CPU loves to go to 100°C and throttle

Was not aware of that. I am currently running an i9-10900 which was handed down when a close friend went and got his own upgrade and i have had no issues with it ever - hence why i thought it was still reasonable.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Madegam said:

Was not aware of that. I am currently running an i9-10900 which was handed down when a close friend went and got his own upgrade and i have had no issues with it ever - hence why i thought it was still reasonable.

thats cuz its not a k chip and is restricted by power budget. 13900k goes to the moon and back

[Madegam]

Just now, filpo said:

thats cuz its not a k and is restricted by power budget. 13900k goes to the moon and back

I see... that makes sense.

[Bob__]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

he had a 4tb drive as well on that build

well than just change that part he has a lot of budget to spare like 900

[Madegam]

8 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2HNY3y

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($749.00 @ BPC Technology) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($325.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($186.58 @ Amazon Australia) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($186.58 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: *Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($212.18 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  ($2699.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($259.00 @ BPC Technology) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($298.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $5114.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-21 23:38 AEST+1000

Ill have to do some good research into AMD - see what is around. Thanks for the list as a starting guide into AMD.

 

Is there any Mini-ATX cases or slightly smaller cases* that you could recommend other than the Lian Li case?
(Edit: *That aren't going to make it into a small sun sitting on my desk)

 

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Madegam said:

Ill have to do some good research into AMD - see what is around. Thanks for the list as a starting guide into AMD.

 

Is there any Mini-ATX cases or slightly smaller cases* that you could recommend other than the Lian Li case?
(Edit: *That aren't going to make it into a small sun sitting on my desk)

 

pop air mini is a good matx case but you'll need an matx mobo

[Madegam]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

pop air mini is a good matx case but you'll need an matx mobo

I have no issues with going to a matx mobo as long as it can still hold the preferably 6 USB A ports and at least 1 USB C port. Ill take a look at the pop air mini though - currently have a Meshify S2.

[filpo]

Just now, Madegam said:

I have no issues with going to a matx mobo as long as it can still hold the preferably 6 USB A ports and at least 1 USB C port. Ill take a look at the pop air mini though - currently have a Meshify S2.

for mobo i would go with this Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (B650M AORUS ELITE AX) - PCPartPicker

[Agall]

23 minutes ago, Madegam said:

Ill have to do some good research into AMD - see what is around. Thanks for the list as a starting guide into AMD.

 

Is there any Mini-ATX cases or slightly smaller cases* that you could recommend other than the Lian Li case?
(Edit: *That aren't going to make it into a small sun sitting on my desk)

 

ASUS AP201 Type-C Airflow-focused Micro-ATX,Mini-ITX Computer Case, Support 360/280 Liquid Cooling - Black - Newegg.com

 

I'd just get a founder's RTX 4080 for better case compatibility. Using the same cooler as the 550W capable RTX 4090 is plenty, the gucci versions just be beyond reasonable.

 

I'd also look for a native ATX 3.0/PCIe 5.0 power supply like the Seasonic Vertex series. Native 12VHPWR is so nice that it'll create a disgust complex around any GPU that requires more than one connector. Seasonic VERTEX GX-850, 850W 80+ Gold, ATX 3.0 / PCIe 5.0 Compliant Full Modular, Fan Control in Fanless, Silent, and Cooling Mode, for Gaming and High-Performance Systems, 12851GXAFS - Newegg.com

[filpo]

34 minutes ago, Madegam said:

I have no issues with going to a matx mobo as long as it can still hold the preferably 6 USB A ports and at least 1 USB C port. Ill take a look at the pop air mini though - currently have a Meshify S2.

for your whole build with an matx mobo and case I would go with this build: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cnGhC6

[Madegam]

19 hours ago, filpo said:

for your whole build with an matx mobo and case I would go with this build: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cnGhC6

Thank you - this one looks great. Ill likely be going with this (depending on availability)

 

Thanks to everyone else for the help too