Samsung Air Purifier need info

[Cemil2565]

Hello, i want to purchase a smart air purifier, i don't have a lot of knowledge about it but i am between the Samsung ax9500 old and new Samsung ax53 or ax35 air purifier, it says that theres a pet filter on the new one, what else is new? 

I saw a video someone said there's a 3 stage purification on the old one and 5 stage on the new but i am not sure what that is also.

I have 15m2 room, i smoke a lot of cigarettes and want to eliminate all odor.

The new costs 740 Euro and the old one costs 400 Euro and you can use the old model with 2 units on top of it and it works like 1 unit for 800 Euro.

I have 1 cat and if theres no other upgrade than pet filter i think 2 old units are best value ? will the pet filter make  huge difference?

Thank you 

 

[Budget DIY]

Imagine not smoking anymore. Saves you them moneys for that air purifier, and saves you moneys on cigarettes.

 

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I probably smoke much more then you do...

Sidenote, the smoke will not just be in the air. It will be on everything in the room. My grandparents, which were also hefty smokers, needed to re-paint and apply new wallpaper once every 2 year, because of the discolouring. But that discolouring also contains part of the smell. An air purifier won't do what you want it to do. (unless MAYBE if you exhale into it, and make sure it sucks up everything)

[Cemil2565]

4 minutes ago, Budget DIY said:

Imagine not smoking anymore. Saves you them moneys for that air purifier, and saves you moneys on cigarettes.

 

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I probably smoke much more then you do...

Sidenote, the smoke will not just be in the air. It will be on everything in the room. My grandparents, which were also hefty smokers, needed to re-paint and apply new wallpaper once every 2 year, because of the discolouring. But that discolouring also contains part of the smell. An air purifier won't do what you want it to do. (unless MAYBE if you exhale into it, and make sure it sucks up everything)

True, it sticks to every object especially green one, so buying 2 old and maxing fans is the best option... i will try just 1 on my desk and see maybe.

[Budget DIY]

Smoke is colour blind. It doesn't care what the colour of the object is, it just wants to stick.

[Guest]

Are you trying to hide that you smoke or does it bother somebody else in your place?  Anything you try is going to be useless against Any non-smoker.  There are oral alternatives with nicotine and 0 tobacco such as Zyn.

[reflex99]

I recently had to figure out air filters because my cat is old/sick and has very strong odor as a result. I can post what I learned. not an expert or anything but I did a google a bunch of stuff.

 

1st and most important is to get filter with enough capacity. Generally overdoing it is probably better than under. This is usually listed in square feet (or meters...aka area). I looked quick at pages for the AX9500 and 53ax. The AX9500 lists 310sqft while the ax35 seems to be 350ft. Manufacturers play fast and loose with these specs (LTT Labs pls test), but within the same brand you can probably get a relative idea. I'd try to overshoot by a good margin, so 300+ sqft seems reasonable for your 160ish sqft room.

I'd worry more about capacity than the specific technology of the purifier.

 

next important part is to actually change the filter when you should, and consider buying replacements now so they don't get discontinued before you need them.

 

there are 2 kind of filter material that you may need to consider based on your goals:

 

There are 2 things that you might want to be filtering:

1. gasses -> carbon monoxide, methane in cat poo, etc.
2. particulates -> ash, dust, pet hair, dander, some microbes, etc.

to filter gasses and reduce cat poo smell, I needed a purifier with activated carbon, this is a bit more rare/expensive.

particulates are filtered by standard HEPA stuff found is basically every purifier.

 

I don't really know what causes cigarette smoke to linger or if the gasses are a significant source of lingering odor, but it definitely has both. I'm guessing it is more particulates than my cat poo tho since its the cig ash that is usually really smelly.

 

I think that if you're a bit optimistic if you think you can "eliminate all odor". Purifier will probably help prevent a significant amount of odor from leaving your unit at least but I don't think you'll be able to hide the fact that you smoke indoors if you invite ppl over.

 

I am a recovering cigarette smoker for almost a decade now. I am still surprised by how much more noticeable scents are since I've stopped.

 

[Cemil2565]

1 hour ago, si1enze said:

Are you trying to hide that you smoke or does it bother somebody else in your place?  Anything you try is going to be useless against Any non-smoker.  There are oral alternatives with nicotine and 0 tobacco such as Zyn.

no, it just stinks bad and my cat doesn't like it.

[Cemil2565]

48 minutes ago, reflex99 said:

I recently had to figure out air filters because my cat is old/sick and has very strong odor as a result. I can post what I learned. not an expert or anything but I did a google a bunch of stuff.

 

1st and most important is to get filter with enough capacity. Generally overdoing it is probably better than under. This is usually listed in square feet (or meters...aka area). I looked quick at pages for the AX9500 and 53ax. The AX9500 lists 310sqft while the ax35 seems to be 350ft. Manufacturers play fast and loose with these specs (LTT Labs pls test), but within the same brand you can probably get a relative idea. I'd try to overshoot by a good margin, so 300+ sqft seems reasonable for your 160ish sqft room.

I'd worry more about capacity than the specific technology of the purifier.

 

next important part is to actually change the filter when you should, and consider buying replacements now so they don't get discontinued before you need them.

 

there are 2 kind of filter material that you may need to consider based on your goals:

 

There are 2 things that you might want to be filtering:

1. gasses -> carbon monoxide, methane in cat poo, etc.
2. particulates -> ash, dust, pet hair, dander, some microbes, etc.

to filter gasses and reduce cat poo smell, I needed a purifier with activated carbon, this is a bit more rare/expensive.

particulates are filtered by standard HEPA stuff found is basically every purifier.

 

I don't really know what causes cigarette smoke to linger or if the gasses are a significant source of lingering odor, but it definitely has both. I'm guessing it is more particulates than my cat poo tho since its the cig ash that is usually really smelly.

 

I think that if you're a bit optimistic if you think you can "eliminate all odor". Purifier will probably help prevent a significant amount of odor from leaving your unit at least but I don't think you'll be able to hide the fact that you smoke indoors if you invite ppl over.

 

I am a recovering cigarette smoker for almost a decade now. I am still surprised by how much more noticeable scents are since I've stopped.

 

So bigger the square feet numbers or those two filters the better.

[Lurking]

You have to tell the smoke to go through that purifier first before going to the walls and other rooms. 

 

Even if the purifier itself isn't snake oil, you should manage expectations. To be remotely useful the flowrate should be high. Like a few airchanges per minute unless you exhale directly into the purifier. 

 

I also would investigate what it certifiably remove. Smoke might have thousands of different substances.  

[reflex99]

57 minutes ago, Cemil2565 said:

So bigger the square feet numbers or those two filters the better.

my understanding is that capacity / area rating is a function of the volume of air it can move vs. time. higher capacity/sq.ft. simply moves more air thru the filter per unit time. its like a power ranking. manufacturers allegedly are not always truthful to juice their stats. only really use capacity/area ratings to get a general idea of where a model sits within a manufacturer's hierarchy.  

 

2x300sqft is more than 350 so i'd say yea, 2 is probably better. they're both samsung so the numbers are probably somewhat useful as a general guide.

 

i acquired this profound knowledge but ended up getting a Blueair Pure 211+ from someone who was moving. I think blueair is a little more accurate and they rate 540 sq.ft.. I have ~1k sqft but also a ceiling vent w/fan so it works. would probably need more if I smoked 'a lot of cigarettes'