Graphic design tips

[ladybug]

Hi!! How do I do something like the vanishing point filter in Photoshop but in Illustrator or Affinity Designer? Like blend something with a surface so it automatically bends and conforms omit and looks like it's part of it? I am making a label and want the text and graphics seem like they have actually been printed on the label. Also I am using Affinity Designer but if you don't know how to do it in Affinity tell me how I Illustrator and Affinity is pretty similar so it should be the same.

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, stefanmz said:

Hi!! How do I do something like the vanishing point filter in Photoshop but in Illustrator or Affinity Designer? Like blend something with a surface so it automatically bends and conforms omit and looks like it's part of it? I am making a label and want the text and graphics seem like they have actually been printed on the label. Also I am using Affinity Designer but if you don't know how to do it in Affinity tell me how I Illustrator and Affinity is pretty similar so it should be the same.

Photoshop and illustrator use very different concepts.  Photoshop is raster (pixel based photos. Not easily scalable) and illustrator is vector (math based curves.  Everything is a mathematical description of a line with an effect on it.  It’s infinitely scalable though)  it can be done in either.  Everything in illustrator is kind of that way.  

Edited March 22, 2023 by Bombastinator

[ladybug]

2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Photoshop and illustrator use very different concepts.  Photoshop is raster (pixel based photos. Not easily scalable) and illustrator is vector (math based curves.  Everything is a mathematical description of a line with an effect on it.  It’s infinitely scalable though)  it can be done in either.

Um, yeah I know, I just wanted to know how to do what I asked for in illustrator and Affinity Designer

[Bombastinator]

2 minutes ago, stefanmz said:

Um, yeah I know, I just wanted to know how to do what I asked for in illustrator and Affinity Designer

I know nothing about affinity designer.  I used illustrator and photoshop long ago back before the turn of the century when rubylith and whatnot had only recently died.  It kind of sounds like a 3d thing not a 2d thing.  Neither illustrator nor photoshop really do 3d.  They imitate it but they don’t really do it.  
If you’ve got the Adobe creative suite though there is probably something that does.  Or you can fake it in illustrator.  The illusion will shatter if you do the wrong thing though.  

Chiaroscuro is a system for imitating 3d in 2d.  It isn’t the only one.  Russian iconography for instance attempts not to fade the picture plane back but to push it forward.  Those weird bulbous shapes are actually shockingly realistic, but they use a different system.  Vanishing point is part of chiaroscuro.

[ladybug]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

I know nothing about affinity designer.  I used illustrator and photoshop long ago back before the turn of the century when rubylith and whatnot had only recently died.  It kind of sounds like a 3d thing not a 2d thing.  Neither illustrator nor photoshop really do 3d.  They imitate it but they don’t really do it.  
If you’ve got the Adobe creative suite though there is probably something that does.  Or you can fake it in illustrator.  The illusion will shatter if you do the wrong thing though.  

Chiaroscuro is a system for imitating 3d in 2d.  It isn’t the only one.  Russian iconography for instance attempts not to fade the picture plane back but to push it forward.  Those weird bulbous shapes are actually shockingly realistic, but they use a different system.  Vanishing point is part of chiaroscuro.

well yeah no problem then if anyone else knows please let me know

[ladybug]

I made it manually. Turns out there aren't any special tools in Affinity Designer so I manually made it to look as good as possible on the label

[Bombastinator]

10 hours ago, stefanmz said:

I made it manually. Turns out there aren't any special tools in Affinity Designer so I manually made it to look as good as possible on the label

Affinity designer sounds a bit like Quark then which was a preflight app.  Generally for press. Quark4 was just coming out when I got out of the whole thing.  I’m actually pre-creative suite. The last machine I did graphics on was an 840av.  Trying to teach someone Chiaroscuro perspective  through forums is crazy though.   It’s hard enough in person.  I might be able to take a look at it though if you post it.  

[ladybug]

18 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

Affinity designer sounds a bit like Quark then which was a preflight app.  Generally for press. Quark4 was just coming out when I got out of the whole thing.  I’m actually pre-creative suite. The last machine I did graphics on was an 840av.  Trying to teach someone Chiaroscuro perspective  through forums is crazy though.   It’s hard enough in person.  I might be able to take a look at it though if you post it.  

Post what? The affinity project? Or the finished product I made 

[Bombastinator]

7 hours ago, stefanmz said:

Post what? The affinity project? Or the finished product I made 

I can’t do much with the affinity thing as I don’t have affinity.  Just a pic of the product.  I might be useful.  Or not.

[ladybug]

11 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

I can’t do much with the affinity thing as I don’t have affinity.  Just a pic of the product.  I might be useful.  Or not.

well ok

 

 

I think it turned out pretty good, I have an EPS file if you are interested but I will have to include a link to it because I can't upload it here it's not allowed. It's large. If you want just tell me and I willl upload it and share the link.

[Bombastinator]

19 hours ago, stefanmz said:

well ok

 

 

I think it turned out pretty good, I have an EPS file if you are interested but I will have to include a link to it because I can't upload it here it's not allowed. It's large. If you want just tell me and I willl upload it and share the link.

 I do too.  Is it going to be a product?  Paper cutting is inexact.  Expect a good 1/4” of variance.  It’s done with a “knife” that will cut you in half as soon as look at you with stacks of paper a foot thick.  The top of that strawberry may be uncomfortably close to the edge.  I might stretch the size of the flavor a bit to make it more readable and move the other stuff down a bit just to make sure it cuts well.

[ladybug]

Thanks, for now it's just a mockup but we will see

[Benji_w]

43 minutes ago, stefanmz said:

Thanks, for now it's just a mockup but we will see

You should grab some more inspiration, make some moodboards and consolidate ideas, that design has a lot of potential. Keep at at, i'm looking to get back into graphic and web design starting tomorrow, job searching sucks lol.

[ladybug]

On 3/26/2023 at 11:42 PM, Benji_w said:

You should grab some more inspiration, make some moodboards and consolidate ideas, that design has a lot of potential. Keep at at, i'm looking to get back into graphic and web design starting tomorrow, job searching sucks lol.

it does suck yeah xD