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Budget (including currency): £1000

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: GOW, AC, FL STUDIO, CUBASE, SKETCHUP and 3D rendering.

Other details :current/very old system: Fractal Design Define R5 ATX Mid Tower Case, Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive, Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive, Gigabyte GA-Z97X motherboard, i5 4690k, EVGA Gtx 960 2GB, Cooler Master Hyper 212, Corsair Vengeance 8 GB x 2 DDR3-1600 CL9 Memory, 400w PSU, Windows 10 Premium. I am keeping the case and maybe the CPU. I also have a keyboard and mouse already and use my tv as a screen.

 

Any help would be much appreciated thank you.

 

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So basically you want a new GPU?  

 

I'd add another 8GB RAM, since you;re keeping your CPU, you have to keep the RAM.  


Do you have SSD's or HDD's for boot/storage?  Go all SSD if you can.

 

For 1000 pounds, I'd sell your current machine for 150-200 and then use all that on a new MUCH more capable machine.

 

 

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I think a new GPU might be somewhat limited by a i5 4690k. I'd recommend upgrading the CPU, Mobo and RAM as well as the GPU and PSU. Also what is your storage setup?

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1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

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4 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

So basically you want a new GPU?  

 

I'd add another 8GB RAM, since you;re keeping your CPU, you have to keep the RAM.  


Do you have SSD's or HDD's for boot/storage?  Go all SSD if you can.

 

For 1000 pounds, I'd sell your current machine for 150-200 and then use all that on a new MUCH more capable machine.

 

 

I suppose a new GPU would be the simplest fix, But what about bottle-necks? I have a 250GB SSD and 1TB HDD and the ram is 2*8GB

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1 minute ago, mustard1 said:

250GB SSD and 1TB HDD

Do you want to replace that with faster or larger storage? or will you carry over these parts?

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https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

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For what you want to use it for, I agree with the recommendation of the others to build a better computer. 

The SSD is kinda small. What are its specs? The HDD is only really useful for data storage & backups.

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5 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Do you want to replace that with faster or larger storage? or will you carry over these parts?

Depending on your answer to this question, the following might be an option:

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KFp8Nc
 

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor
MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard

Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory

XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 10 GB Video Card

Thermaltake Smart BM2 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

 

(The 7600 comes with a stock cooler, but you'll probably want to buy an air cooler for it)

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Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

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1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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9 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

For what you want to use it for, I agree with the recommendation of the others to build a better computer. 

The SSD is kinda small. What are its specs? The HDD is only really useful for data storage & backups.

so scrap the upgrading parts of it and just get a new system?

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3 minutes ago, mustard1 said:

so scrap the upgrading parts of it and just get a new system?

I think so

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Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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I've added new storage to my original list:

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VvCLQ6

 

It now costs £1001.87.

 

Only issue is you'd be using the stock cooler which will handle base clocks of the 7600 fine, but might limit its ability to boost. My suggestion would be buy this and upgrade the cooler a little down the road. However, if you want me to add a cooler and then bring it back below £1000, just let me know.

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Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

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1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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10 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

I've added new storage to my original list:

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VvCLQ6

 

It now costs £1001.87.

 

Only issue is you'd be using the stock cooler which will handle base clocks of the 7600 fine, but might limit its ability to boost. My suggestion would be buy this and upgrade the cooler a little down the road. However, if you want me to add a cooler and then bring it back below £1000, just let me know.

Thank you, this is a great system, I had not even considered switching to AMD, how is priced so well for such performance, is there a drawback?

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The main drawbacks of the system I specced would be:
1) the lack of PCIe gen 5 support (but this might not be a problem for a while)

2) the stock cooler might limit performance a bit

3) the kingston NV2 has no dram cache (not an issue for most users but for people who regularly write alot of data they should be avoided, from your use case I think you'll be fine though)

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1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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19 minutes ago, mustard1 said:

is there a drawback?

A key drawback of that list is that the way ddr5 is optimized, it isn't too much better as a 2x8 when compared to a 16x1, ~60% and 50% performance decrease respectively when looking at a standard 16x2 kit of ddr5 ram.

alternatively something like this could be considered 
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CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (£242.25 @ Amazon UK) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£137.04 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£75.97 @ MoreCoCo) 

Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£51.49 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 10 GB Video Card (£348.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ CCL Computers) 

Power Supply: NZXT C650 (2022) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £1004.81

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@Ryuikko@will0hlep@DedayogIs there any reason not to use @mustard1's current case to save money?  I'm not sure but it looks like it's a bit of a hotbox, and he really doesn't need that tower of bays, but if it'll save him the money he needs for more storage, better RAM or whatever...?

 

Is the RX 6700 sufficient for the graphics work the OP will do?

 

43 minutes ago, mustard1 said:

so scrap the upgrading parts of it and just get a new system?

Exactly. Can you provide specs for the SSD? Is it SATA or M.2? PCIe and/or NVMe? Which gen PCIe? Maker and model?

 

Also, take a look at how much space the programs you need on your computer will be. My GUESS is that you'd need a 1 TB SSD like they suggested. The HDD can be used to store your unneeded data and make backups to.

 

Also, you didn't mention your current CPU cooler...?

I've been using computers since around 1978, started learning programming in 1980 on Apple IIs, started learning about hardware in 1990, ran a BBS from 1990-95, built my first Windows PC around 2000, taught myself malware removal starting in 2005 (also learned on Bleeping Computer), learned web dev starting in 2017, and I think I can fill a thimble with all that knowledge. 😉 I'm not an expert, which is why I keep investigating the answers that others give to try and improve my knowledge, so feel free to double-check the advice I give.

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34 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

A key drawback of that list is that the way ddr5 is optimized, it isn't too much better as a 2x8 when compared to a 16x1, ~60% and 50% performance decrease respectively when looking at a standard 16x2 kit of ddr5 ram.

alternatively something like this could be considered 
PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (£242.25 @ Amazon UK) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£137.04 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£75.97 @ MoreCoCo) 

Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£51.49 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 10 GB Video Card (£348.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ CCL Computers) 

Power Supply: NZXT C650 (2022) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £1004.81

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great parts list thank you, would this setup not work with my current case FRACTAL r5 ATX mid tower?

 

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28 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

@Ryuikko@will0hlep@DedayogIs there any reason not to use @mustard1's current case to save money?  I'm not sure but it looks like it's a bit of a hotbox, and he really doesn't need that tower of bays, but if it'll save him the money he needs for more storage, better RAM or whatever...?

 

Is the RX 6700 sufficient for the graphics work the OP will do?

 

Exactly. Can you provide specs for the SSD? Is it SATA or M.2? PCIe and/or NVMe? Which gen PCIe? Maker and model?

 

Also, take a look at how much space the programs you need on your computer will be. My GUESS is that you'd need a 1 TB SSD like they suggested. The HDD can be used to store your unneeded data and make backups to.

 

Also, you didn't mention your current CPU cooler...?

Drives are Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive, Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive and the current cooler is the Cooler Master Hyper 212.

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15 minutes ago, mustard1 said:

would this setup not work with my current case FRACTAL r5 ATX mid tower?

The parts would fit fine, but it's rough without airflow and it seems like it's more oriented to be a Nas with its large amount of drive bays. I'd recommend getting a new one.

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13 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

The parts would fit fine, but it's rough without airflow and it seems like it's more oriented to be a Nas with its large amount of drive bays. I'd recommend getting a new one.

I was afraid of that. What do you think of the SSUPD cases compared to the Montech? (I know they're more expensive, just seeking your expert opinion.)

I've been using computers since around 1978, started learning programming in 1980 on Apple IIs, started learning about hardware in 1990, ran a BBS from 1990-95, built my first Windows PC around 2000, taught myself malware removal starting in 2005 (also learned on Bleeping Computer), learned web dev starting in 2017, and I think I can fill a thimble with all that knowledge. 😉 I'm not an expert, which is why I keep investigating the answers that others give to try and improve my knowledge, so feel free to double-check the advice I give.

My phone's auto-correct is named Otto Rong.🤪😂

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14 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

What do you think of the SSUPD cases compared to the Montech?

They target pretty different markets. The x3 mesh is a solid budget case(iirc the x3 mesh got a solid review from gamers nexus.) With another example being the focus 2 from fractal.the meshlicious is geared more towards the enthusiast itx builds, akin to the nr200p. They're both solid depending on what you want from your pc.

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2 hours ago, Ryuikko said:

A key drawback of that list is that the way ddr5 is optimized, it isn't too much better as a 2x8 when compared to a 16x1, ~60% and 50% performance decrease respectively when looking at a standard 16x2 kit of ddr5 ram.

alternatively something like this could be considered 
PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (£242.25 @ Amazon UK) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£137.04 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£75.97 @ MoreCoCo) 

Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£51.49 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 10 GB Video Card (£348.08 @ Amazon UK) 

Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ CCL Computers) 

Power Supply: NZXT C650 (2022) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £1004.81

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This list does lack an upgrade path, but it is also a good option

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1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

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