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Right, that keyboard and mouse is more for functionality than performance.  It is better to focus your money on components that have an impact on in-game performance.  Keyboard and mouse can be upgraded at a later time very easily.

 

Use this build instead, I forgot that APUs run better with higher performance RAM:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3DWLh

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpick...Lh/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpick...WLh/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£95.99 @ Aria PC)

Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (£37.82 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£33.59 @ Aria PC)

Case: Xigmatek Aeos MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£24.72 @ Amazon UK)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£35.76 @ Amazon UK)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive  (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)

Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor  (£84.55 @ Ebuyer)

Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM6150 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  (£9.35 @ Scan.co.uk)

Total: £396.55

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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See if your friend likes that build, also, you could ask him if he has a spare optical drive, PSU, or keyboard/mouse laying around or at a discount.  Hopefully his computer knowledge is up to date as APUs are a newer technology.  Check out some of those reviews I posted, they will give you actual, real-world performance marks for this particular APU.

I was thinking of getting prebuilt actually. My step grandfather has shown me a refurbished one off Ebay and I'm getting that.

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I was thinking of getting prebuilt actually. My step grandfather has shown me a refurbished one off Ebay and I'm getting that.

What are the specs of it?  I would be extremely wary of a pre-built ebay computer.  So much risk.

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What are the specs of it?  I would be extremely wary of a pre-built ebay computer.  So much risk.

I know. It's not me that's getting it, it's my step grandfather. It's got a 3 month warranty and he knows how to fix stuff. It's from a registered company. I'm surprised it's as cheap as it is. The other ones from there look terrible but this one looks okay. It's from a reputable business not some random guy. Hopefully it will work... I wanted to get something off Amazon but they cost more than £450...

 

Oh yes. The specs? I don't understand this stuff, so I will just copy and paste from the page onto here...

 

AMD A8 6600K Quad Core Processor / CPU running at 3.9GHz (With 4.2GHz Turbo Mode!) 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RAM LATEST AMD RADEON HD8570D Graphics! 1TB SEAGATE Barracuda 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive With 64MB Cache SAMSUNG 24X DVD / CD - RW Dual Layer Optical Disc Drive MSI FM2-A55M-E35 uATX Motherboard (Full specifications of this board can be found here) 500W Quiet Power Supply Featuring Large 120mm Cooling Fan High Quality Vantage RED Desktop PC Gaming Case with 3 x 120mm RED LED Cooling Fans. SD Memory Card Reader Built Into Top of Case Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000 Mbps LAN 6 X High Speed USB 2.0 Ports on Back Plus Further 2 On Top 8 Channel HD Audio 6 X SATA II 3GB/s Ports 1 X PCI Express X16 Slot,1 X PCI Express X1 Slot,1 X PCI Slot 2 X PS/2 Port (For Keyboard / Mouse) 1 X VGA Port,1 X DVI Port,1 X HDMI Port (With Audio) TRIPLE Monitor Support UK Mains Power Cable Included All Relevant Driver Discs Included
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I know. It's not me that's getting it, it's my step grandfather. It's got a 3 month warranty and he knows how to fix stuff. It's from a registered company. I'm surprised it's as cheap as it is. The other ones from there look terrible but this one looks okay. It's from a reputable business not some random guy. Hopefully it will work... I wanted to get something off Amazon but they cost more than £450...

 

Oh yes. The specs? I don't understand this stuff, so I will just copy and paste from the page onto here...

 

AMD A8 6600K Quad Core Processor / CPU running at 3.9GHz (With 4.2GHz Turbo Mode!) 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RAM LATEST AMD RADEON HD8570D Graphics! 1TB SEAGATE Barracuda 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive With 64MB Cache SAMSUNG 24X DVD / CD - RW Dual Layer Optical Disc Drive MSI FM2-A55M-E35 uATX Motherboard (Full specifications of this board can be found here) 500W Quiet Power Supply Featuring Large 120mm Cooling Fan High Quality Vantage RED Desktop PC Gaming Case with 3 x 120mm RED LED Cooling Fans. SD Memory Card Reader Built Into Top of Case Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000 Mbps LAN 6 X High Speed USB 2.0 Ports on Back Plus Further 2 On Top 8 Channel HD Audio 6 X SATA II 3GB/s Ports 1 X PCI Express X16 Slot,1 X PCI Express X1 Slot,1 X PCI Slot 2 X PS/2 Port (For Keyboard / Mouse) 1 X VGA Port,1 X DVI Port,1 X HDMI Port (With Audio) TRIPLE Monitor Support UK Mains Power Cable Included All Relevant Driver Discs Included

 

No.  Please don't get that, it is not nearly as good as the A10, it doesn't come with a monitor, it doesn't have fast RAM that you absolutely must have for an APU, and it is selling you a lot of nothing like case fans and SD memory card readers.  Please reconsider.

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No.  Please don't get that, it is not nearly as good as the A10, it doesn't come with a monitor, it doesn't have fast RAM that you absolutely must have for an APU, and it is selling you a lot of nothing like case fans and SD memory card readers.  Please reconsider.

Okay. I won't get it, then. My step grandfather only suggested it because he has an ebay account.

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Okay. I won't get it, then. My step grandfather only suggested it because he has an ebay account.

Are there any online e-retailers that you use, or could you point me in the right direction on ebay so I could look for you?

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Are there any online e-retailers that you use, or could you point me in the right direction on ebay so I could look for you?

I can only get off of Ebay because of credit fraud

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I can only get off of Ebay because of credit fraud

ok, can you buy it from anyone in the UK?  I will have a look on ebay

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ok, can you buy it from anyone in the UK?  I will have a look on ebay

It has to have free postage and delivery

It has to be from a reputable business and it has to have minimal wear and be new or refurbished.

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I can only get off of Ebay because of credit fraud

Is this the one you were talking about?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-DESKTOP-HOME-GAMING-PC-COMPUTER-DUAL-CORE-4-1GHZ-8GB-1TB-HD-8470D-DEFENDER-/201072193740?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2ed0d630cc

 

It shows up as only 250 pounds,

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Oh you want a link?

Here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-FAST-Quad-Core-4-2Ghz-8GB-1TB-Desktop-Gaming-PC-500W-PSU-AMD-HD-Win-7-/181392134593?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2a3bd051c1 

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If I had to go through ebay, either of these two look ok...

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-DESKTOP-HOME-GAMING-PC-COMPUTER-QUAD-CORE-4-2GHZ-8GB-1TB-HD-R7-240-GZ-MA03-/201071210626?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2ed0c73082

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-HOME-GAMING-PC-COMPUTER-DUAL-CORE-3-6GHZ-8GB-1TB-R7-240-WINDOWS-8-DEFENDER-/201072176661?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2ed0d5ee15

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It's a little on the pricey side, considering it's already approaching the upper limit and I have to get a monitor, keyboard and mouse as well...

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Oh wait, an operating system does not come with those.

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None of those are going to come with an OS, and they are really badly built machines.

 

With the Richland CPU/APU, you have to have at a bare minimum, 2133Mhz RAM.  Those machines are poorly built.

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Its looking more and more like you will have to do a self build to get what you want.

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I can only get off of Ebay because of credit fraud

I think this is going to be your best build:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HGyC

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HGyC/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HGyC/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£93.99 @ Ebuyer)

Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (£37.82 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£33.59 @ Aria PC)

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£28.64 @ Amazon UK)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£35.76 @ Amazon UK)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive  (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)

Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor  (£84.47 @ Ebuyer)

Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM6150 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  (£9.35 @ Scan.co.uk)

Total: £448.38

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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Its looking more and more like you will have to do a self build to get what you want.

I wanted to do that, but my step grandfather doesn't think it's a good idea. I have to use his credit card because I don't own my own one...

So. I don't know. I'll have to consult him tomorrow...

Small problem though... It turns out he doesn't have Windows 7 OS. I thought that he did, but as it turns out, it's XP Professional, not Windows 7 which means that if I were to build my own, I'd have to factor that into my costs as well... :/

Well this just got hardcore difficult...

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I wanted to do that, but my step grandfather doesn't think it's a good idea. I have to use his credit card because I don't own my own one...

So. I don't know. I'll have to consult him tomorrow...

Small problem though... It turns out he doesn't have Windows 7 OS. I thought that he did, but as it turns out, it's XP Professional, not Windows 7 which means that if I were to build my own, I'd have to factor that into my costs as well... :/

Well this just got hardcore difficult...

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HGyC

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpick...yC/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpick...GyC/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£93.99 @ Ebuyer)

Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (£37.82 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£33.59 @ Aria PC)

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£28.64 @ Amazon UK)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£35.76 @ Amazon UK)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive  (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)

Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor  (£84.47 @ Ebuyer)

Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM6150 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  (£9.35 @ Scan.co.uk)

Total: £448.38

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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This is your best option.

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I think this is going to be your best build:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HGyC

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HGyC/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HGyC/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£93.99 @ Ebuyer)

Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (£37.82 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£33.59 @ Aria PC)

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£28.64 @ Amazon UK)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£35.76 @ Amazon UK)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive  (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)

Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor  (£84.47 @ Ebuyer)

Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM6150 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  (£9.35 @ Scan.co.uk)

Total: £448.38

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-11 03:02 BST+0100)

If that's the cheapest, I'll see if I can fix my laptop first, thereby buying me more time to save up  and negating any problems involved with budgeting. If fixing my laptop involves swapping out parts then there would be no point if I'm getting a gaming PC because then I'd have to pay for the parts. If I have to pay to fix the laptop, then there's no point which means that I'd have to buy a gaming PC soon or pay to fix the laptop. However I have no idea whatsoever is wrong with the laptop in the first place and the amount of money I have is significantly less than what I was expecting which means that if I have to pay so much money, then I have to choose to fix my laptop or get an office PC instead. I was going to get a good gaming PC in the very far future but then my laptop started acting up so I had to choose between fixing that and getting an office PC so I figured I'd move the date of getting a gaming rig up, in order to do my work. But I didn't get as much money for my birthday as I was supposed to so that's skewed all of my plans up so I'm in a bit of a quandary. So I'll see if I can figure out what's up with the laptop first and then I'll see if I can wait longer to increase the upper boundary of my budget...

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PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HGyC

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpick...yC/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpick...GyC/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£93.99 @ Ebuyer)

Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (£37.82 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£33.59 @ Aria PC)

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£28.64 @ Amazon UK)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£35.76 @ Amazon UK)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive  (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)

Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor  (£84.47 @ Ebuyer)

Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM6150 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  (£9.35 @ Scan.co.uk)

Total: £448.38

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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This is your best option.

I'll just get the crappy one that my step grandfather wants. I can't be bothered building my own and I can't be bothered waiting and I can't figure out what's up with my laptop. Sure it sucks, but at least I'll have a computer.

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I'll just get the crappy one that my step grandfather wants. I can't be bothered building my own and I can't be bothered waiting and I can't figure out what's up with my laptop. Sure it sucks, but at least I'll have a computer.

Please dont. This will be the worst decision of your life. In like 2 months your going to start complaining about how slow it is, i promise.
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Please dont. This will be the worst decision of your life. In like 2 months your going to start complaining about how slow it is, i promise.

In 2 months I'll have enough money to upgrade. I need something to hold me over till I have more money... I need something cheap. It's not about the money it's about the time. I don't have much left before I'll need to replace my laptop anyway...  So I just need something for now that I will upgrade in a couple of months when I have more money... So yeah...

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PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3HGyC

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpick...yC/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpick...GyC/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£93.99 @ Ebuyer)

Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (£37.82 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£33.59 @ Aria PC)

Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£28.64 @ Amazon UK)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£35.76 @ Amazon UK)

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive  (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)

Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor  (£84.47 @ Ebuyer)

Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM6150 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  (£9.35 @ Scan.co.uk)

Total: £448.38

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-11 03:02 BST+0100)

 

This is your best option.

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/gaming-pc-amd-34ghz-radeon-7750-1gb-4gb-ram-500gb-harddrive-win7-64bit/1061330487

What about this one? The guy offered upgrades for the system as well for stuff that's off...

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http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/gaming-pc-amd-34ghz-radeon-7750-1gb-4gb-ram-500gb-harddrive-win7-64bit/1061330487

What about this one? The guy offered upgrades for the system as well for stuff that's off...

Ya that is much better

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