Really odd issue with RAM

[Veisenberg]

I recently upgraded from 2 x 8GB RAM to 4 x 8GB of RAM, all the same make and model (Klevv Cras X) and ever since I've been having a really odd issue. When I try and turn on my PC for the first time my motherboard will give me a solid orange DRAM light and my PC won't boot. But as soon as I press the reset button on my case it boots into windows and runs with no problems. I've tried a lot of things to make it stop doing this including clearing CMOS, disabling D.O.C.P, reseating the RAM, but nothing stops it from needing to be reset before it boots. In fact, the issue gets even weirder. If I disable D.O.C.P and leave everything on auto so the RAM is running at 2666mhz instead of the 3600mhz they're rated at, I get multiple BSOD.

 

I've tried each stick individually and they all work perfectly, even 2 x 8gig sticks in slots A2 & B2 works fine, but as soon as I put all 4 sticks in, I get the problems mentioned.

 

I can't figure it out. I thought it was the new RAM sticks but they work perfectly, just not when all 4 are installed.

 

It's just really odd that it'll boot and work fine on resetting.

 

Specs:

 

Windows 11 Pro (up to date)

RAM: 4 x 8GB DDR4 3600 Klevv Cras X

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B550 F Gaming (latest bios)

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (stock)

PSU: Corsair RM850

GPU: Asus Tuf RTX 3080 10GB (stock)

 

This one really has me stumped. Any help would be really great, thank you.

[JTS_1401]

2 minutes ago, Andy-Aech said:

I recently upgraded from 2 x 8GB RAM to 4 x 8GB of RAM, all the same make and model (Klevv Cras X) and ever since I've been having a really odd issue. When I try and turn on my PC for the first time my motherboard will give me a solid orange DRAM light and my PC won't boot. But as soon as I press the reset button on my case it boots into windows and runs with no problems. I've tried a lot of things to make it stop doing this including clearing CMOS, disabling D.O.C.P, reseating the RAM, but nothing stops it from needing to be reset before it boots. In fact, the issue gets even weirder. If I disable D.O.C.P and leave everything on auto so the RAM is running at 2666mhz instead of the 3600mhz they're rated at, I get multiple BSOD.

 

I've tried each stick individually and they all work perfectly, even 2 x 8gig sticks in slots A2 & B2 works fine, but as soon as I put all 4 sticks in, I get the problems mentioned.

 

I can't figure it out. I thought it was the new RAM sticks but they work perfectly, just not when all 4 are installed.

 

It's just really odd that it'll boot and work fine on resetting.

 

Specs:

 

Windows 11 Pro (up to date)

RAM: 4 x 8GB DDR4 3600 Klevv Cras X

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B550 F Gaming (latest bios)

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (stock)

PSU: Corsair RM850

GPU: Asus Tuf RTX 3080 10GB (stock)

 

This one really has me stumped. Any help would be really great, thank you.

I also had this issue with an ASUS ROG Stix motherboard and the issue did not disapear untill I had done a fresh install of Windows and the drivers. I wonder if it has something to do with how the boot manager system validates RAM for the CPU. I cannot be certain at the actual cause but fresh installing fixed the issue for me.

[Veisenberg]

10 minutes ago, JTS_1401 said:

I also had this issue with an ASUS ROG Stix motherboard and the issue did not disapear untill I had done a fresh install of Windows and the drivers. I wonder if it has something to do with how the boot manager system validates RAM for the CPU. I cannot be certain at the actual cause but fresh installing fixed the issue for me.

I was really hoping to avoid a fresh install. But it's the only thing I can think of left to try.

[JTS_1401]

6 minutes ago, Andy-Aech said:

I was really hoping to avoid a fresh install. But it's the only thing I can think of left to try.

I had to as I was experimenting with running an AMD Radion RX, AMD ATI Radion HD, RTX 3090, and RTX 3070 at the same time and it caused an instable system. Following the removal of the AMD GPUs, the system started experiencing the exact issues you described in addition to the occasional crash when the AMD drivers tried to run. 

[Veisenberg]

6 minutes ago, JTS_1401 said:

I had to as I was experimenting with running an AMD Radion RX, AMD ATI Radion HD, RTX 3090, and RTX 3070 at the same time and it caused an instable system. Following the removal of the AMD GPUs, the system started experiencing the exact issues you described in addition to the occasional crash when the AMD drivers tried to run. 

So your issue was with GPU's and not RAM?

[JTS_1401]

Just now, Andy-Aech said:

So your issue was with GPU's and not RAM?

Maybe. I bought the motherboard and installed everything from CPU to RAM, and GPU at the same time. 

[bmx6454]

32 minutes ago, JTS_1401 said:

I also had this issue with an ASUS ROG Stix motherboard and the issue did not disapear untill I had done a fresh install of Windows and the drivers. I wonder if it has something to do with how the boot manager system validates RAM for the CPU. I cannot be certain at the actual cause but fresh installing fixed the issue for me.

how would os cause issues with posting?

20 minutes ago, Andy-Aech said:

I was really hoping to avoid a fresh install. But it's the only thing I can think of left to try.

is the pc posting, but just not booting windows? or no post at all until reset?

[JTS_1401]

1 minute ago, bmx6454 said:

how would os cause issues with posting??

It is not the OS, the item causing the issue is the environment that starts the OS.

[Veisenberg]

37 minutes ago, bmx6454 said:

how would os cause issues with posting?

is the pc posting, but just not booting windows? or no post at all until reset?

On first start up no, it's not even posting. Restarting gets passed post into windows

[bmx6454]

1 hour ago, JTS_1401 said:

It is not the OS, the item causing the issue is the environment that starts the OS.

seems like an easier way to tell would be to disconnect the boot drive then, no?

 

[Veisenberg]

Anyone else have any idea's what it could be?

[freeagent]

It doesn’t like your ram configuration.

[Veisenberg]

1 hour ago, freeagent said:

It doesn’t like your ram configuration.

This got me thinking about my CPU max frequency. Which it turns out is 3200MHz. So thanks 

[Veisenberg]

I think I may have fixed it. The max RAM frequency for a Ryzen 5 3600 is 3200MHz. I didn't even think to look at that when choosing my RAM modules and so I was trying to run the RAM at the rated speed of 3600MHz, which was giving me the problems I mentioned in my OP. Manually setting my RAM speed to 3200MHz and FCLK to 1600MHz has fixed it.