Laptop advice

[Yakusoku]

Hello, just asking if anyone could help me decide on which laptop is the best option.

My number one option is the Zephyrus M16.
I'm moving to a different country to study its a good beefy system with a somewhat more portable form factor.
Being Asus of course comes with the branding price, but overall I feel its a good one to get especially if it goes on a sale.

The second and third is tied. Legion 5 Ryzen and Legion 5 Pro. The Pro is newer(2022?) while the non-pro(2021?) has a 3070ti but I'm assuming has a lower TDP...?

Anyway if its not much trouble could anyone guide me to what would be the differences of the two Legion and how does it stack to the M16.
So price to performance and of course since I'll be lugging it almost 5-6 days in a week its going to play into the factors of which ones would be ideal.

Please and thank You!

[Biohazard777]

5 hours ago, Yakusoku said:

The Pro is newer(2022?) while the non-pro(2021?)

Both are Gen7 (2022). 
Gen6 (2021) came with Intel 11th gen or Ryzen 5000.

Legion Pro has a slightly better chassis and build quality (just slightly on 2022 models (Gen7), on 2021 (Gen6) there was a considerable difference).
Biggest difference is the better screen on the Pro models: higher resolution (QHD 16:10 vs FHD 16:9) but that isn't all, QHD has a brighter screen = 500 nits (compared to just 300 nits on the FHD... which is IMHO inadequate in brightly lit rooms and you can forget about looking at it when outside), also better color accuracy on QHD screen.
Pro you linked comes with i7 12700H, the non-pro you linked comes with AMD Ryzen 7 6800H.
i7 12700H (14 cores: 6p/8e / 20 threads) will outperform Ryzen 7 6800H (8 cores  / 16 threads) by roughly ~10-20% (depending on the workload). That being said, Ryzen will have a better battery life, if you are interested in an in-depth fair and real world compression between these CPUs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S64_a7PChzs
As for GPUs, first let's discuss 3070 vs 3070 Ti laptop models, Ti isn't a clear upgrade compared to non-Ti, yes it has more SMs and thus more cuda cores but it comes at an expense of core clock and boost clocks:

So 15% more cuda cores at the expense of 9% less boost clock... Cuda cores come handy in productivity, and don't get me wrong with the same TGP the Ti will outperform non-Ti even in games, but don't expect much of a difference there.
As for TGPs, 3070 Ti in non-pro is 140W TGP, 3070 in the Pro is 150W TGP (even though lenovo US website doesn't say anything, and UK website lists it as 125W? anyhow these models are out and you can check on YT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMqCUS6sXM). So yeah better TGP on the pro model you linked... in the end I would expect these two to perform roughly the same.

Now which of these two models you should get is up to you:
- (non-pro) If you want to do some light productivity work (Office and stuff like that) and game on your laptop while not using an external monitor and you don't care about screen brightness and color accuracy, the FHD screen will actually help performance (lower resolution). This will have a bigger impact on performance than 10W TGP difference / Ti non-Ti 3070 comparison above / CPU difference. As an added bonus, battery life will be better (because of the CPU).

- (pro) If you plan on using it for productivity for many hours, again while not using an external monitor, the far better QHD laptop screen will come in real handy. It will allow you to work comfortably in environments with lots of light, the 16:10 aspect ratio and higher resolution will give you a lot more room for tools in software you are using and if your work has something to do with photos / videos then better color accuracy is important. Sure battery life will be worse, but CPU intensive tasks will be faster. Also the model you linked is 100$ less.
* Note: If you plan on hooking it up to an external monitor it boils down CPU / battery life, and battery probably isn't an issue (since the laptop probably won't be running on it at that point).
** Note: when I say pro and non-pro I mean specifically the two you linked, because you can get both of them in many different configurations, for example you can get the Pro with a Ryzen CPU and more ram or more storage etc.

 

5 hours ago, Yakusoku said:

Anyway if its not much trouble could anyone guide me to what would be the differences of the two Legion and how does it stack to the M16.
So price to performance and of course since I'll be lugging it almost 5-6 days in a week its going to play into the factors of which ones would be ideal.

Performance: Legion.
Price to performance: Legion.
Weight / ease of lugging the laptop around: Zephyrus.
Battery life: Don't go Intel.

Jarrod'sTech made a comparison video a few months back, I suggest you watch it 

PS
512GB is barely enough nowadays IMO. Either pick a configuration (if possible) with at least one 1TB drive,
or buy a 1TB (even better 2TB heh) nvme drive and plug it in yourself, Legion 5 Gen7 Pro and non-pro both have two 2280 nvme slots (just make sure opening your laptop doesn't void your warranty, I'm not from CA).

PPS
Whichever you chose - it will be loud when under heavy load, I suggest also investing in some good over-ear, closed-back headphones if you don't have some already 

 

[Imbadatnames]

10 hours ago, Yakusoku said:

Hello, just asking if anyone could help me decide on which laptop is the best option.

My number one option is the Zephyrus M16.
I'm moving to a different country to study its a good beefy system with a somewhat more portable form factor.
Being Asus of course comes with the branding price, but overall I feel its a good one to get especially if it goes on a sale.

The second and third is tied. Legion 5 Ryzen and Legion 5 Pro. The Pro is newer(2022?) while the non-pro(2021?) has a 3070ti but I'm assuming has a lower TDP...?

Anyway if its not much trouble could anyone guide me to what would be the differences of the two Legion and how does it stack to the M16.
So price to performance and of course since I'll be lugging it almost 5-6 days in a week its going to play into the factors of which ones would be ideal.

Please and thank You!

What are you using it for?

[Yakusoku]

16 hours ago, Biohazard777 said:

Performance: Legion.

Price to performance: Legion.

Weight / ease of lugging the laptop around: Zephyrus.
Battery life: Don't go Intel.

Jarrod'sTech made a comparison video a few months back, I suggest you watch it 

 

Thank you for the advice. So its pretty much down to if I want, performance or portability. Since its going to be a daily 20-25min walk & 10-20min train ride I need to take it into account. Though if only this M16 had a 3070 I would probably take it instantly(Unfortunately the one with a 3070ti is paired with an oven of a i9 12th gen, not to mention the price increase). But now with this information the Legion Pro seems to be a compelling choice.

 

10 hours ago, Imbadatnames said:

What are you using it for?

I'm leaving my desktop, so in a sense it will be a desktop replacement. (General use, gaming, media editing[PS,Premier], maybe even 3D modeling/animation)