High CPU diode temperature?

[TheVodraz]

Hello,

as the title states my diode temperature is significantly higher than the cpu one, my cpu is Ryzen 5 5600X @4,6ghz , things I've done with no effect reseated the cpu, flushed the bios, changed the thermal paste 2x times with arctic mx5 and thermal grizzly hydronaut. The picture is not on idle its with a game on, on idle its like 35°C cpu and 47/50°C    . I've stress tested it on aida64 10 mins and I think it overheated and blue screened.

The cooler is the stock one that came with the cpu. 

[emosun]

4 minutes ago, TheVodraz said:

stress tested it on aida64 10 mins and I think it overheated and blue screened

did it overheat and blue screen or not

[TheVodraz]

Well it got up to 98°C and it blue screened.

[emosun]

3 minutes ago, TheVodraz said:

Well it got up to 98°C and it blue screened.

the cooler may be mounted correctly but the machine might not be actually getting any cold air , how is the cooling setup and whats the room temp.

[TheVodraz]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

the cooler may be mounted correctly but the machine might not be actually getting any cold air , how is the cooling setup and whats the room temp.

Room temp is like 25°C, the set up is intake on back and front exhaust on top. 

[emosun]

1 minute ago, TheVodraz said:

Room temp is like 25°C, the set up is intake on back and front exhaust on top. 

Typically you wouldn't want to intake from the back of a machine but so long as the machine is moving a lot of air it can work depending.

does the result change at all with the side panel off the machine?

[TheVodraz]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

Typically you wouldn't want to intake from the back of a machine but so long as the machine is moving a lot of air it can work depending.

does the result change at all with the side panel off the machine?

Currently I don't have the side panel on so there is no change really.

[TheVodraz]

10 minutes ago, Caroline said:

This shouldn't happen.

 

Have you applied any "Auto OC" settings on the BIOS setup? if so, disable them.

 

 

70C under load is fine given you're using the stock cooler. You could've used mayo paste on it and the difference would be minimal.

I think I have it disabled.

[emosun]

Does the machine only crash during a stress test and not during regular usage? typically you won't ever have a 100% load for a long time like in a stress test.

[TheVodraz]

Just now, emosun said:

Does the machine only crash during a stress test and not during regular usage? typically you won't ever have a 100% load for a long time like in a stress test.

Yes, it only crashed during the stress test. On regular usage I don't have any issues except it reaching 80-90°C but with no issues but aren't those temperatures really high. I've heard that 5600X isn't really a hot chip.

[emosun]

1 minute ago, TheVodraz said:

Yes, it only crashed during the stress test. On regular usage I don't have any issues except it reaching 80-90°C but with no issues but aren't those temperatures really high. I've heard that 5600X isn't really a hot chip.

It is high but supposedly some cpu temps can be higher than the overall temp. From what little research I've done it seems that this cpu can see 90+ temps when stressed.

[TheVodraz]

50 minutes ago, Caroline said:

It still shouldn't crash during the test, throttle maybe, but not crash.

 

Temps are high but again, you're using the stock cooler.

What case are you using? since you're having high idle temps as well my bet is that there's little fresh air going into that case.

 

Try disabing DOCP in the BIOS and run the test again, try Prime95 large test as well, you should get ridiculously high temperatures in this one, as well as throttling, but no crashes.

I run intake on the back and front and exhaust on top, but currently there is no side panel so there is a lot of fresh air going in. Will do that going to update in a bit.

[TheVodraz]

1 hour ago, Caroline said:

It still shouldn't crash during the test, throttle maybe, but not crash.

 

Temps are high but again, you're using the stock cooler.

What case are you using? since you're having high idle temps as well my bet is that there's little fresh air going into that case.

 

Try disabing DOCP in the BIOS and run the test again, try Prime95 large test as well, you should get ridiculously high temperatures in this one, as well as throttling, but no crashes.

I think I will be needing a new cooler or my chip is somehow damaged just now it got over 100°C. I didn't have DOCP running, to be safe I lowered the core clock to 45x but to no avail.

[TheVodraz]

1 hour ago, Caroline said:

It still shouldn't crash during the test, throttle maybe, but not crash.

 

Temps are high but again, you're using the stock cooler.

What case are you using? since you're having high idle temps as well my bet is that there's little fresh air going into that case.

 

Try disabing DOCP in the BIOS and run the test again, try Prime95 large test as well, you should get ridiculously high temperatures in this one, as well as throttling, but no crashes.

Just noticed something, the cpu doesn't thermal throttle, the cpu diode temperature gets well over 100°C(105°C max) but the CPU reading stays near 50/60°C

[TheVodraz]

12 hours ago, Caroline said:

The "diode" report is the core temperature, at this point it's abnormally high even for the stock cooler.

Have you installed Ryzen Master? you should, you might get more accurate readings than with AIDA.

 

"Aux" reading is also really high, it varies by system but it can be the chipset temperature in some, if that's the case then it's also too high, my old PC was hot like that and it's definitely not good to run components at those temperature for long periods.

What's the motherboard? RAM? by the way, DOCP should be left enabled unless you're troubleshooting.

 

AIDA64 looks stuck in time, I used AIDA32 back in the day and the layout is almost exactly the same as 20 years ago.

Yes I do have Ryzen Master installed, motherboard is b450m-pro ii , as for ram team group ddr4 2x8 2133mhz nothing special. As for DOCP I didn't really find it in BIOS so I thought it might be disabled or not running. AIDA is just timeless, never really had issues.