chossing memory

[GenePatton]

Budget (including currency): 10000€

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: World of warship, Tomb raider, Rise of Tomb Raider, Shadow of Tomb Raider, Batman Arkhalm Asylum, Batman Arkham City, Company of Heroes

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): no existing part list ; upgrade from AMD8350 FX 4GHz - 16Go 1866 MHz DDR3 - no choice yet on the monitor

 

Hi,

I'm having a hard time choosing my memory for my futur build. I thinking of 2 set of Trident Z Neo DDR4-4000MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.55V 32GB

 

For my futur build, I choose 

              _ CPU = AMD Ryzen 9 5950X

              _ MB = Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME

 

I would like to go with a memory from G.Skill, the Trident Z Neo, but I have 2 questions :

 

1. What happens if I choose a memory which is not in the compatibility list from the motherboard manufacturer or the memory manufacturer ?

2. Can i use 2 set of 32GB in order to have 64GB or do I have to buy a specific st of 64GB ?

 

 

Your help is much appreciated

 

 

[tkitch]

your budget for your use case is absolutely ridiculously insane.

 

Anyways:

That's damned good ram.  

Most RAM will work on most board today, occasionally you'll find incompatibilities, but not too often (Especially on DDR 4)

Kits tend to be better paired over single sticks, but usually 2 single sticks work fine together.

 

(IF you get a kit, you get 2 matched stcks.  If you buy singles, you can't guarantee your sticks will be the exact same.) 

[brob]

Memory not on a QVL may or may not work at advertised settings. It will certainly work at SPD settings.

 

When populating 4 memory slots at the same time it is better to get a 4 stick kit rather than two 2 stick kits.

[Dr0idGh0sT]

21 minutes ago, brob said:

Memory not on a QVL may or may not work at advertised settings. It will certainly work at SPD settings.

 

When populating 4 memory slots at the same time it is better to get a 4 stick kit rather than two 2 stick kits.

Sorry, But that is BS. 

[brob]

12 minutes ago, Dr0idGh0sT said:

Sorry, But that is BS. 

 

Perhaps you could enlighten me with actual facts that suggest anything in my post is incorrect.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 hours ago, GenePatton said:

futur build

When will you build the system then?

 

10k is threadripper/amd epyc territory so i wouldnt bother spending a crap ton of money on garbage like extreme overclocking board or stupidly expensive binned b die ram

 

Only use where an extreme overclocking board will be utilised in a daily situation is with subzero cooling like chilled water or phase change for the cpu, rams would also benifit from subzero

 

And only reason to buy really good bin rams like binned b die is for benching purposes, gains are marginal and most of those gains are above the volts you can even run for daily, for b die they scale all the way to deathzone aka 2.05v so thats far beyond even slightly unsafe but dailyable territory like 1.7v assuming you have active cooling

 

 

Board wise just get a good ram oc board like b550 tomahawk, carbon wifi, steel legend, extreme4, etc. The upper ram oc boards like unify x, aorus master are basically useless and you wont see any diff unless you go subzero ram cooling

 

Ram wise just get a decent b die kit like those 3000/3200 cl14 kits, id only reccomend upto 1.5v which should already be enough for 4000 cl14 if you dont active cool rams cause if rams get too hot = ram errors, but b die specifically you can prob run upto 1.75v on active cooling according to my rule of thumb but id stick with 1.7v as the limit for active cooling cause unless you are trying to get speeds and timings like 4400 cl15, also b die can get abit whacky above 1.7v like bsoding to sht unless you cut your ram capacity in half

 

 

Since you are just gaming then cpu wise id reccomend the i7 12700k cause itll trounce the 5950x single core wise and games care alot about single core speed, cpu oc is pointless since it has been dead since 9th gen so dont expect more than 200mhz unless you wanna shove power bills through the roof, ram oc is prefferable nowadays if youd like to increase cpu performance

 

Depending on the resolution and settings your gpu is prob still gonna be a bottleneck anyways so unless you are like me and are fine with running things at (very) questionable voltages for slight gains, then just dont care too much about cpu or rams, ballistix is a very cheap overclocking ram so if youd like the option to oc rams then atleast you arent overspending on rams

[Dr0idGh0sT]

4 hours ago, brob said:

 

Perhaps you could enlighten me with actual facts that suggest anything in my post is incorrect.

There is ton of facts that in most scenario even RAM sticks with different brands, But same speed/latency works fine. It have been demonstrated by lot of people. 4x same model put together in same plastic or 2 packs 2x sticks, Even 4 of single RAM stick, As long as they are same models makes absolutely no difference. It's just old myth.