Help with debugging system

[Airbax]

Hello guys, 

usually my setup worked really fine and I never had any issue. 

Since yesterday, when I tried to start my setup, my pc gives no signals to the peripheral (mouse, screens, keyboard, not even to the case LEDs)

Im using a Tomahawk B450 Max and there are three debug LED lid: BOOT, VGA, RAM is solid red. 

Still my Setup is starting, so the GPU fans running, CPU fan running, even case fans are running. 

 

I already tried to solve it the issue my flashing the bios with the most resent bios update with a usb. -> still no change

I already tried to start without Ram oder hard disks, but no change in the described problem. I noticed that I even if I disconnect ram and hard disks,

the mainboard didn't give any acoustic signal. I have no second setup or secondary components to exchange for debugging.

 

Probably I should say that I tried to connect the SSD from my laptop when was really sleepy. I managed to connect the notebook ssd to the power supply cable coming from the power supply unit (shame on me).

Is it possible that I created a short circuit that destroyed my mainboard or components? I think if it caused a short circuit it should have destroyed the power supply unit or maybe hard drive. but Im not sure.

 

I really have no idea how to find out what the problem is. I would love any advice to point into the right direction.

 

Specs:

Windows 10 (I don't know exact version)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8x 3.60GHz 
Mainboard: Tomahawk B450 Max
GPU: MSI Geforce 1060 GTX 6GB
RAM: 32GB (2x 16384MB) G.Skill Aegis DDR4
SSD: 500GB Crucial MX500 2.5"
HDD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5"

Power Supply: CoolerMaster RS-600-ACAB-B1 (600W)

Case: Some BeQuiet Case (don't now exact version)

[YoungBlade]

Have you tried just one stick of RAM in each of the channels? So one stick in slot 2, then the same stick in slot 4, while leaving the other stick out?

[Airbax]

1 minute ago, YoungBlade said:

Have you tried just one stick of RAM in each of the channels? So one stick in slot 2, then the same stick in slot 4, while leaving the other stick out?

Hey YoungBlade thanks for asking. Yes, I already tried it with just one Ram stick. I tried both sticks, none stick and one stick at a time in slot2 (tried both sticks to make sure its not just on stick defect)

[YoungBlade]

Just now, Airbax said:

Hey YoungBlade thanks for asking. Yes, I already tried it with just one Ram stick. I tried both sticks, none stick and one stick at a time in slot2 (tried both sticks to make sure its not just on stick defect)

Did you try just one stick in slot 4? If the primary memory channel has an issue, it might not boot if there are any sticks in slot 1 or 2.

[Airbax]

2 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

Did you try just one stick in slot 4? If the primary memory channel has an issue, it might not boot if there are any sticks in slot 1 or 2.

I just tried it after your comment, there is no change in the described problem.

[YoungBlade]

1 minute ago, Airbax said:

I just tried it after your comment, there is no change in the described problem.

Okay, so unless both of your RAM sticks went bad (which is highly unlikely) the issue doesn't seem to be memory related despite the debug LED.

 

Have you cleared the CMOS on the board? I know you updated the BIOS but that doesn't always factory reset the settings.

[Airbax]

2 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

Okay, so unless both of your RAM sticks went bad (which is highly unlikely) the issue doesn't seem to be memory related despite the debug LED.

 

Have you cleared the CMOS on the board? I know you updated the BIOS but that doesn't always factory reset the settings.

yes I also tried this by removing the battery for 2 minutes and by jumping JBAT1 

[YoungBlade]

Let's try to clarify a couple of things from your original post:

 

Am I understanding correctly that only the RAM debug LED stays on? The other two go off?

 

What connector did you use for your laptop SSD that you think might cause a problem? Laptop SATA SSDs generally use the same SATA power connector as desktop ones - there's no difference.

 

[Airbax]

5 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

Let's try to clarify a couple of things from your original post:

 

Am I understanding correctly that only the RAM debug LED stays on? The other two go off?

 

What connector did you use for your laptop SSD that you think might cause a problem? Laptop SATA SSDs generally use the same SATA power connector as desktop ones - there's no difference.

 

No im sorry. All 3 LED are lid in solid red. Only the debug led for CPU is never on. the three others are solid red all the time when the system has power. This is where I made a mistake I think. I didn't connect the laptop ssd with SATA cable but connected it to the PSU I guess. See the picture below I connected it like this. I will also provide more pictures in a second

[YoungBlade]

2 minutes ago, Airbax said:

No im sorry. All 3 LED are lid in solid red. Only the debug led for CPU is never on. the three others are solid red all the time when the system has power. This is where I made a mistake I think. I didn't connect the laptop ssd with SATA cable but connected it to the PSU I guess. See the picture below I connected it like this. I will also provide more pictures in a second

Okay, that is potentially pretty bad. Doing that could cause an issue with your power supply. That type of drive is only supposed to connect to the motherboard. I thought you were talking about a 2.5" SATA drive like your MX500.

 

Does that drive still work in your laptop?

[Airbax]

Just now, YoungBlade said:

Okay, that is potentially pretty bad. Doing that could cause an issue with your power supply. That type of drive is only supposed to connect to the motherboard. I thought you were talking about a 2.5" SATA drive like your MX500.

 

Does that drive still work in your laptop?

Since my laptop doesn't have any power I can't tell. Probably not since someone also clarified that I at least fired this m.2 stick.... Im just curious to find out what else I destroyed...

[YoungBlade]

2 minutes ago, Airbax said:

Since my laptop doesn't have any power I can't tell. Probably not since someone also clarified that I at least fired this m.2 stick.... Im just curious to find out what else I destroyed...

My best guess would be the power supply itself. I suppose if something went really wrong internally, the power supply could have damaged other components. The power supply is often overlooked in builds, but it is arguably the single most important component, because if it has a problem, it can take other parts with it.

 

Because SATA power uses multiple different voltages, it's possible that one of the rails is dead, but that the other ones are okay. This could mean that the motherboard is getting some 12v power, for example, but no 5v power, or vice versa.

 

The next thing I'd try is switching out the power supply.

[Airbax]

2 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

My best guess would be the power supply itself. I suppose if something went really wrong internally, the power supply could have damaged other components. The power supply is often overlooked in builds, but it is arguably the single most important component, because if it has a problem, it can take other parts with it.

 

Because SATA power uses multiple different voltages, it's possible that one of the rails is dead, but that the other ones are okay. This could mean that the motherboard is getting some 12v power, for example, but no 5v power, or vice versa.

 

The next thing I'd try is switching out the power supply.

Okay thanks for this advice. So I will see if I can find another power supply and try it with this.