Gaming/Streaming SFF Build

[ErikSyUmali]

Budget (including currency): ~$1,100 or PHP 55,000, price excludes GPU

Country: Philippines

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Streaming (no idea what I'll need)
Possibly RTX Voice or some similar program (I haven't explored competitors yet, but I'll really need some noise cancelling thing)
Games: Shadow of War, Cyberpunk 2077, Genshin Impact, Tomb Raider,

 

Other details
What I'm upgrading from: a nearly 12 year old Core i7-920, with a GTX 970
Peripherals: Webcam and mic setup (no idea how to go about this; any resource I can read from will help)
When will I buy: PC without the GPU probably within the next 6 months. GPU, if prices fall to within 1.5x of US MSRP. Will temporarily use my GTX 970 until I can buy the new GPU
Resolution: 4K 60FPS (gonna use our QLED TV for this one)

Current Plan so Far:
CPU: Ryzen 3600 (~USD215 or 5600x (~USD325) or 5800x (~$470) (I can extend if necessary, but if a 3600 will suffice, I'll go with that)
GPU: RTX 3080
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX
RAM: 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix , 3600mhz, CL16
SSD: 2tb Kingston NV1 SSD 2280 NVMe
Cooler: IDCooling Auraflow x240
PSU: Cooler Master V750, SFX, 80 gold
Case: Meshlicious, Mesh type, with PCIE 3.0 Riser cable
 

Some questions:
1. Would I need a more powerful processor for streaming, or would a Ryzen 3600 suffice?
2. What's better, NVENC or x264 encoding? If I choose nvenc, would a 3080 be more than enough to stream at 720p/1080p and game at 4k?
3. Is my setup overkill for what I plan to do? Anywhere I can cheap out on?
4. Do you see any compatibility issues with my setup?

Edited August 27, 2021 by ErikSyUmali

[BobVonBob]

1. That'll be totally fine.

2. I think x264 still has a very slight edge in quality, but it requires so much CPU horsepower it's not worth it unless you've got a 12/16 core CPU or a dedicated streaming PC doing the encoding. NVENC was only noticeably worse back with the GTX 600/700 series. NVENC causes practically no performance loss. If the card can run the game at 4k you can stream it.

3. Looks fine. My only recommendation would be getting either a SATA SSD or a high-end NVMe SSD instead. NVMe provides nearly no benefits to system responsiveness or loading times over SATA, while being significantly more expensive. If you really want NVMe I'd suggest getting a PCIe 4.0 drive, since that will at least allow you to fully utilize direct storage when that becomes a thing on PC, unlike the low-end Kingston NV1 (although whether it will actually be a compelling feature remains to be seen).

4. Make sure your GPU fits in the case, since new ones are absolutely enormous. Other than that no.

[ErikSyUmali]

2 hours ago, BobVonBob said:

1. That'll be totally fine.

2. I think x264 still has a very slight edge in quality, but it requires so much CPU horsepower it's not worth it unless you've got a 12/16 core CPU or a dedicated streaming PC doing the encoding. NVENC was only noticeably worse back with the GTX 600/700 series. NVENC causes practically no performance loss. If the card can run the game at 4k you can stream it.

3. Looks fine. My only recommendation would be getting either a SATA SSD or a high-end NVMe SSD instead. NVMe provides nearly no benefits to system responsiveness or loading times over SATA, while being significantly more expensive. If you really want NVMe I'd suggest getting a PCIe 4.0 drive, since that will at least allow you to fully utilize direct storage when that becomes a thing on PC, unlike the low-end Kingston NV1 (although whether it will actually be a compelling feature remains to be seen).

4. Make sure your GPU fits in the case, since new ones are absolutely enormous. Other than that no.

Thanks for the feedback! Learned some. So it seems NVENC is the way to go for a single pc streaming setup. And I'll have to research more about this Direct Storage thing you mentioned.

For 3 though, unfortunately for some reason this NVMe is even cheaper than the cheapest SATA SSD of the same size locally (cheaper by around $20).

Btw, for the Direct Storage, what should I be looking at to determine if the NVME I've chosen is compatible with it?

[BobVonBob]

1 hour ago, ErikSyUmali said:

For 3 though, unfortunately for some reason this NVMe is even cheaper than the cheapest SATA SSD of the same size locally (cheaper by around $20).

Wild, but in that case I guess go NVMe.

1 hour ago, ErikSyUmali said:

Btw, for the Direct Storage, what should I be looking at to determine if the NVME I've chosen is compatible with it?

Nobody really knows, it's not a thing yet. Rumors are that the requirements will probably be similar to the PS5 storage drive requirements, i.e. PCIe 4.0, 5.5+ GB/s.

 

If your choice is between a fast and small SSD, and a slower but bigger SSD, I'd say go with slower but bigger for now. If it's anything like raytracing it's going to take years before there's enough games using Direct Storage to really care, and that's assuming it actually provides tangible benefits when it gets released.