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Hello,

I've built a new rig a few months ago and I have been experiencing a strange problem.

Sometimes, usually during heavy network usage (Downloading something), my PC starts to lag until the load finishes.

I have found this solution online, and that works. But it only works for 1-2 PC restarts, after that the issue returns.

 

I noticed this issue some time ago, at first I thought it might be caused by the RAM overclocking I did, and have been gradually decreasing the OC amount until getting back to stock now. And that hasn't fixed it.

I thought it might be my SSD being faulty but it doesn't seem to be the problem either.

I also tried reinstalling the Network drivers for my mobo and that didn't fix it.

 

Does anyone have other more permanent solutions they know off? Or things I could try?

Would a clean install of Windows maybe fix it? I'd rather leave the clean install as a last resort.

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What apps are using the network usage, and is your storage drive(s) under heavy usage when the network is under heavy usage? We really need more specific information about what you are doing when the issue arises. Likely not a hardware issue, unless it is storage. Or if you have like a dual core that could cause it too. 

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1 minute ago, Nathanpete said:

What apps are using the network usage, and is your storage drive(s) under heavy usage when the network is under heavy usage? We really need more specific information about what you are doing when the issue arises. Likely not a hardware issue, unless it is storage. Or if you have like a dual core that could cause it too. 

I have a 5600X. Apps can be Chrome, Steam, Torrents. Anything really that starts downloading or even Discord for like a split second when loading a channel full of messages you never did before. And even if nothing else is open it happens.
SSD has no load whatsoever other than the downloading.

 

If I do a speedtest it lags out during download but is fine during upload.

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59 minutes ago, Akki_bc said:

Hello,

I've built a new rig a few months ago and I have been experiencing a strange problem.

Sometimes, usually during heavy network usage (Downloading something), my PC starts to lag until the load finishes.

I have found this solution online, and that works. But it only works for 1-2 PC restarts, after that the issue returns.

 

I noticed this issue some time ago, at first I thought it might be caused by the RAM overclocking I did, and have been gradually decreasing the OC amount until getting back to stock now. And that hasn't fixed it.

I thought it might be my SSD being faulty but it doesn't seem to be the problem either.

I also tried reinstalling the Network drivers for my mobo and that didn't fix it.

 

Does anyone have other more permanent solutions they know off? Or things I could try?

Would a clean install of Windows maybe fix it? I'd rather leave the clean install as a last resort.

Like I said, that solution fixes the issue temporarily. I'm trying to find something permanent.

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56 minutes ago, Akki_bc said:

I have a 5600X. Apps can be Chrome, Steam, Torrents. Anything really that starts downloading or even Discord for like a split second when loading a channel full of messages you never did before. And even if nothing else is open it happens.
SSD has no load whatsoever other than the downloading.

 

If I do a speedtest it lags out during download but is fine during upload.

Likely a bandwidth issue, like some bus inside the PC is being overloaded. Not the RAM, or still, a software issue. Make sense that upload is fine because is like 98% of the world consumer internet plans always limit upload way more than download, so bandwidth usage is really low during that. Techquickie did a video on why once, like years ago. 

 

Can you upload a test from speedtest.net?

Fuck you scalpers, fuck you scammers, fuck all of you jerks that charge way too much to tech-illiterate people. 

Unless I say I am speaking from experience or can confirm my expertise, assume it is an educated guess.

Current setup: Ryzen 5 3600, MSI MPG B550, 2x8GB DDR4-3200, RX 5600 XT (+120 core, +320 Mem), 1TB WD SN550, 1TB Team MP33, 2TB Seagate Barracuda Compute, 500GB Samsung 860 Evo, Corsair 4000D Airflow, 650W 80+ Gold. Razer peripherals. 

Also have a Alienware Alpha R1: i3-4170T, GTX 860M (≈ a 750 Ti). 2x4GB DDR3L-1600, Crucial MX500

My past and current projects: VR Flight Sim: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=dG38Jx (Done!)

A do it all server for educational use: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=vmmNcf (Cancelled)

Replacement of my friend's PC nicknamed Donkey, going from 2nd gen i5 to Zen+ R5: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=WmsW4D (Done!)

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1 hour ago, Nathanpete said:

Likely a bandwidth issue, like some bus inside the PC is being overloaded. Not the RAM, or still, a software issue. Make sense that upload is fine because is like 98% of the world consumer internet plans always limit upload way more than download, so bandwidth usage is really low during that. Techquickie did a video on why once, like years ago. 

 

Can you upload a test from speedtest.net?

The Speed results:

First Result

Second Result

The first one was done and was getting huge lags and making the PC unuseable during it.

The second one was done after using the "bcdedit /set useplatformclock false" command and restarting the PC. No lags whatsoever during the test. I know this solution works but its very temporary, 1-2 restarts later I'm back at having the lag issue. I'm trying to find a permanent solution to this problem.

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Can you please explain what this command specifically does. Im not familiar with the windows CLI that much, and have never even heard of bcdedit before. 

Fuck you scalpers, fuck you scammers, fuck all of you jerks that charge way too much to tech-illiterate people. 

Unless I say I am speaking from experience or can confirm my expertise, assume it is an educated guess.

Current setup: Ryzen 5 3600, MSI MPG B550, 2x8GB DDR4-3200, RX 5600 XT (+120 core, +320 Mem), 1TB WD SN550, 1TB Team MP33, 2TB Seagate Barracuda Compute, 500GB Samsung 860 Evo, Corsair 4000D Airflow, 650W 80+ Gold. Razer peripherals. 

Also have a Alienware Alpha R1: i3-4170T, GTX 860M (≈ a 750 Ti). 2x4GB DDR3L-1600, Crucial MX500

My past and current projects: VR Flight Sim: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=dG38Jx (Done!)

A do it all server for educational use: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=vmmNcf (Cancelled)

Replacement of my friend's PC nicknamed Donkey, going from 2nd gen i5 to Zen+ R5: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=WmsW4D (Done!)

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38 minutes ago, Nathanpete said:

Can you please explain what this command specifically does. Im not familiar with the windows CLI that much, and have never even heard of bcdedit before. 

No idea, it was proposed as solution in the link in my original post.

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There is an issue with your network:

-Damaged cable/port

-Wireless over load

-Router: Too many devices-clear router history reboot

 

Software/Hardware:

-Disable hardware acceleration in the browser

-Hard set DNS, First:YourRouter Second:1.1.1.1 or vice versa for speed

-Check BIOS Memory timings, lower to diagnose

-Check BIOS CPU setting, lower to diagnose

-Run malware/av scanner ESET online scanner helpful free util (you may be crypto miner node)

-Have taskmanager and CPUid HWinfo running when all software is running

-Check Task Scheduler and disable/remove unwanted

-Adjust windows processing timings(I do not know how, maybe someone else has posted)

 

If your PC is bogging down at certain time, the heavy use app needs to be found.

Downloading takes processing power but should not impact the entire system, a config setting needs checking.

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35 minutes ago, ndesign.ie said:

If your PC is bogging down at certain time, the heavy use app needs to be found.

Downloading takes processing power but should not impact the entire system, a config setting needs checking.

It doesnt bog down at certain times. It bogs down when the network usage is high. No other time does it do it.
I'm not sure what "bcdedit /set useplatformclock false" does but it definetly solves the issue. The problem is that this is not a permanent fix as the issue comes back after a couple of restarts so 1-2 days. 

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12 hours ago, Akki_bc said:

It doesnt bog down at certain times. It bogs down when the network usage is high. No other time does it do it.
I'm not sure what "bcdedit /set useplatformclock false" does but it definetly solves the issue. The problem is that this is not a permanent fix as the issue comes back after a couple of restarts so 1-2 days. 

bcdedit is a drastic step at any time. I've only ever needed it trying to recover/repair AD Servers.

 

have you seen: https://community.amd.com/t5/processors/system-unstable-ryzen-5-5600x-and-aorus-x570-crashing-on-games/td-p/424557

 

I'm going to point out the RAM overclock may have damaged their controllers.

Heat damages components, hope your CPU cooler is adequate and enough thermal paste.

It tells that after a restart, some setting reverted to previous.

 

This looks like hardware damage, somewhere where heat is a most intense.

I would have a basic newish ram stick, swap them around.

Try get  a usb nic or pcie nic, fairly cheap and replicate the issue.

 

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