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Budget (including currency): 6000 RON (5000 RON right now)

Country: Romania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mainly gaming, looking forward to trying Red Dead, Divinity Original Sin 2, Dark Souls, and oddities such as Noita and other Indie stuff

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I've started saving 3 months ago and in this time I've kept track of prices on pcgarage.ro, which seems to be my only option for parts here, and while the overall price hasn't gone up that much (RAM increased the most).

here is the list I was proposed by someone: it has no GPU since they're out of stock but originally it had a MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING X (which hasn't been in stock for 3 months here) but because of the GPU crisis that's happening I might save some more and get a 3000s series RTX (hopefully).
I do also need a monitor and keyboard, I've added the monitor, although 4k and 144hz would be amazing I'd rather have smooth output rather than visuals, and I'll find a keyboard around here, not that important.

I've been using a hand-me-down laptop for 5 years now, it's got a 1.5GHz processor, 6GB RAM, intel integrated graphics (you get the point, needs an update).

My concern is how much use for my buc I'm getting, It's really not an easy purchase for me (would've done it sooner otherwise) so getting the most value is definitely very important. Shipping costs are also a problem it seems since I have to rely on local shops (pcgarage.ro seems to be my best bet, tho I don't know how much to trust them) and also actually building it will be anxiety inducing because I've never built a PC before.

Honestly with how many downsides there are I'm leaning towards buying a prebuilt even if it costs more, I'd have to save up even more and not even get the most out of it but it'd be the safest choise and also the fastest because I wouldn't have to wait for GPUs to be back in stock, but on the other hand I'm interesting in giving PC building a shot... any words of wisdom?

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14 minutes ago, Danny797 said:

Budget (including currency): 6000 RON (5000 RON right now)

Country: Romania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mainly gaming, looking forward to trying Red Dead, Divinity Original Sin 2, Dark Souls, and oddities such as Noita and other Indie stuff

Other details:
I've started saving 3 months ago and in this time I've kept track of prices on pcgarage.ro, which seems to be my only option for parts here, and while the overall price hasn't gone up that much (RAM increased the most).

here is the list I was proposed by someone: it has no GPU since they're out of stock but originally it had a MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING X (which hasn't been in stock for 3 months here) but because of the GPU crisis that's happening I might save some more and get a 3000s series RTX (hopefully).
I do also need a monitor and keyboard, I've added the monitor, although 4k and 144hz would be amazing I'd rather have smooth output rather than visuals, and I'll find a keyboard around here, not that important.

I've been using a hand-me-down laptop for 5 years now, it's got a 1.5GHz processor, 6GB RAM, intel integrated graphics (you get the point, needs an update).

My concern is how much use for my buc I'm getting, It's really not an easy purchase for me (would've done it sooner otherwise) so getting the most value is definitely very important. Shipping costs are also a problem it seems since I have to rely on local shops (pcgarage.ro seems to be my best bet, tho I don't know how much to trust them) and also actually building it will be anxiety inducing because I've never built a PC before.

Honestly with how many downsides there are I'm leaning towards buying a prebuilt even if it costs more, I'd have to save up even more and not even get the most out of it but it'd be the safest choise and also the fastest because I wouldn't have to wait for GPUs to be back in stock, but on the other hand I'm interesting in giving PC building a shot... any words of wisdom?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/list/WyzzsX

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1011.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (641.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL20 Memory  (451.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (426.27RON @ PC Garage) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (290.90RON @ PC Garage) 
Case: Thermaltake S100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (281.53RON @ PC Garage) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte P GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (511.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Monitor: AOC C27G1 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (1155.88RON @ PC Garage) 
Total: 4772.14RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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This is a list I just put together, I am unsure how much you can get a GPU for, but I could not find anything. Overall your list is very good.

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37 minutes ago, Barn1356 said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/list/WyzzsX

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1011.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (641.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL20 Memory  (451.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (426.27RON @ PC Garage) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (290.90RON @ PC Garage) 
Case: Thermaltake S100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (281.53RON @ PC Garage) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte P GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (511.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Monitor: AOC C27G1 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (1155.88RON @ PC Garage) 
Total: 4772.14RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-20 00:01 EET+0200

 

This is a list I just put together, I am unsure how much you can get a GPU for, but I could not find anything. Overall your list is very good.

The timings on that ram are terrible. Also that Gigabyte psu should be avoided.

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3 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The timings on that ram are terrible. Also that Gigabyte psu should be avoided.

Sorry about the ram you should be looking for 3600 cl18 or ideally cl16, but that is a lot more expensive. However, I have only ever heard good things about that PSU what problems have you heard, it has been my go to PSU to suggest for a while now.

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5 minutes ago, Barn1356 said:

Sorry about the ram you should be looking for 3600 cl18 or ideally cl16, but that is a lot more expensive. However, I have only ever heard good things about that PSU what problems have you heard, it has been my go to PSU to suggest for a while now.

A 3200MHz CL16 kit would be fine.

 

https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/product/QBrYcf/kingston-hyperx-fury-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-hx432c16fb3k216

 

The Gigabyte unit has many issues.

 

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1305867-gigabyte-gp-pgm-issues-issues-issues/

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-gp-p750gm-750-w/

 

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7 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Thanks for letting me know with the PSU, however I do believe a 3600 kit would be better as he is going with a ryzen CPU.

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8 minutes ago, Barn1356 said:

Thanks for letting me know with the PSU, however I do believe a 3600 kit would be better as he is going with a ryzen CPU.

If he can get a 3600MHz CL16 kit for the same price then sure. A 3200MHz kit isn't going to be much different though in terms of performance. 

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