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WastefulGlint82
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Budget (including currency): £300ish

Country: United Kingdom (England)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for & Other details: 

I've always used a cheap laptop and have average 10-15 fps on most games, need a bit of a better PC, main reason is for college where I will be using visual studio and the office collection of apps however being able to play some, low intensity games, would be a bonus. I dont need a super high FPS, litterally 30 FPS at 1080p would be fine if its possible. I already have access to a copy of my OS so that will not be neccesary. RGB is not a neccesity however not a bad thing if its only a few pounds more for the same thing then it would be great. I have Amazon Prime and if applicable I do have a .ac.uk email for student discounts. I basically have no money haha so £300 is about my max +- about £50 probably. Here is a list I have created, however it is probably not very good - One of the HDD's can be removed, I only need one however I was unsure which was better so added both I will also need a wifi card, but I had no idea which to choose.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Pentium Gold G6400 4 GHz Dual-Core Processor £51.93 @ CCL Computers
Thermal Compound ARCTIC MX-4 2019 Edition 4 g Thermal Paste £4.93 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard £61.62 @ CCL Computers
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory £57.22 @ More Computers
Storage Gigabyte 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £15.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £36.78 @ Aria PC
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £36.16 @ Currys PC World Business
Case Xigmatek Scorpio MicroATX Mid Tower Case £24.99 @ Ebuyer
Power Supply GameMax GP 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £41.00 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 32/64-bit  
Software Microsoft Office Home & Student 2019 Software  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £330.62
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-28 22:31 GMT+0000  

Thank you so much for your time, any help will be greatly appreciated! :)

 

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Added an SSD
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go second hand AMD.

PC specs:

Ryzen 9 3900X overclocked to 4.3-4.4 GHz

Corsair H100i platinum

32 GB Trident Z RGB 3200 MHz 14-14-14-34

RTX 2060

MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge wifi

NZXT H510

Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

2 TB WD hard drive

Corsair RM 750 Watt

ASUS ROG PG248Q 

Razer Ornata Chroma

Razer Firefly 

Razer Deathadder 2013

Logitech G935 Wireless

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12 minutes ago, eeeee1 said:

go second hand AMD.

though with the amazon giftcard being a bulk of the spending that might not be viable

 

though @WastefulGlint82 I cannot recommend a gaming PC without an SSD for your operating system.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor £99.95 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £56.88 @ More Computers
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory £56.01 @ Amazon UK
Storage Silicon Power Ace A55 128 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £20.37 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £36.16 @ Currys PC World Business
Case Xigmatek Scorpio MicroATX Mid Tower Case £24.99 @ Ebuyer
Power Supply be quiet! System Power 9 400 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £42.89 @ More Computers
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 32/64-bit  
Software Microsoft Office Home & Student 2019 Software  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £337.25
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-28 22:31 GMT+0000  

I advise this change. Better integrated graphics, better PSU for future upgrades. Faster and cheaper ram, and an SSD for windows. I also removed the thermal paste, stock coolers come with paste pre-applied

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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48 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

though with the amazon giftcard being a bulk of the spending that might not be viable

where did you see amazon gift card? I might just be blind, but I only see amazon prime, not a gift card.

CPU - Ryzen 5 5600X | CPU Cooler - EVGA CLC 240mm AIO |  Motherboard - ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 | RAM - 16GB (2x8GB) Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 3600MHz CL17 | GPU - MSI RTX 3070 Ventus 3X OC | PSU -  EVGA 600 BQ | Storage - PNY CS3030 1TB NVMe SSD | Case - Cooler Master TD500 Mesh

 

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1 minute ago, Random_Person1234 said:

where did you see amazon gift card? I might just be blind, but I only see amazon prime, not a gift card.

Hey thanks for your reply, your right I didnt mention about using an amazon balance, however I do have about £50 on my amazon account that I was hoping to use, but I didnt mention that 😃 

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52 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

though with the amazon giftcard being a bulk of the spending that might not be viable

 

though @WastefulGlint82 I cannot recommend a gaming PC without an SSD for your operating system.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor £99.95 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £56.88 @ More Computers
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory £56.01 @ Amazon UK
Storage Silicon Power Ace A55 128 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £20.37 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £36.16 @ Currys PC World Business
Case Xigmatek Scorpio MicroATX Mid Tower Case £24.99 @ Ebuyer
Power Supply be quiet! System Power 9 400 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £42.89 @ More Computers
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 32/64-bit  
Software Microsoft Office Home & Student 2019 Software  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £337.25
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-28 22:31 GMT+0000  

I advise this change. Better integrated graphics, better PSU for future upgrades. Faster and cheaper ram, and an SSD for windows. I also removed the thermal paste, stock coolers come with paste pre-applied

Okay, thank you very much for your reply! If I could go up to about £370/400 what would you reccomend upgrading? Many thanks!

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2 minutes ago, WastefulGlint82 said:

Hey thanks for your reply, your right I didnt mention about using an amazon balance, however I do have about £50 on my amazon account that I was hoping to use, but I didnt mention that 😃 

Would that make your budget £350? If so:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor £99.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £54.98 @ Ebuyer
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory £56.47 @ Ebuyer
Storage Team GX2 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive £70.56 @ Amazon UK
Case Xigmatek Scorpio MicroATX Mid Tower Case £24.99 @ Ebuyer
Power Supply be quiet! System Power 9 400 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £42.89 @ More Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £349.88
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-28 23:30 GMT+0000  

You could save some money by getting a 120 GB SSD and a 1TB HDD.

CPU - Ryzen 5 5600X | CPU Cooler - EVGA CLC 240mm AIO |  Motherboard - ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 | RAM - 16GB (2x8GB) Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 3600MHz CL17 | GPU - MSI RTX 3070 Ventus 3X OC | PSU -  EVGA 600 BQ | Storage - PNY CS3030 1TB NVMe SSD | Case - Cooler Master TD500 Mesh

 

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1 hour ago, WastefulGlint82 said:

Okay, thank you very much for your reply! If I could go up to about £370/400 what would you reccomend upgrading? Many thanks!

if you improved your budget to about £400 this is the best you could get:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor £99.95 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard Gigabyte B450M S2H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £60.90 @ CCL Computers
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory £56.01 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive £78.98 @ Amazon UK
Case Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case £35.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Power Supply be quiet! System Power 9 400 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £42.89 @ More Computers
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 32/64-bit  
Software Microsoft Office Home & Student 2019 Software  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £374.20
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-29 00:12 GMT+0000  

Single 1TB SSD, you could add a hard drive at any time down the line (motherboard comes with multiple SATA cables)

Same decent PSU as before, motherboard has a nice little VRM heat sink so you could upgrade to even an 8 core Ryzen CPU with no issue.

Got a case with better airflow, and a nice side panel window to admire your handiwork. Adding fans in the future is recommended, maybe some RGB once you want the flair 

 

I left some wiggle room for VAT and shipping. I would imagine it would take you slightly over budget, hopefully not too much.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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7 hours ago, WastefulGlint82 said:

Okay, thank you very much for your reply! If I could go up to about £370/400 what would you reccomend upgrading? Many thanks!

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i3-10100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor £79.48 @ Ebuyer
Motherboard ASRock H410M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard £59.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage Gigabyte 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £15.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage Toshiba P300 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £34.99 @ AWD-IT
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card £147.67 @ More Computers
Case Xigmatek Scorpio MicroATX Mid Tower Case £24.99 @ Ebuyer
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE White V2 230V 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply £35.47 @ Scan.co.uk
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £398.58
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-29 06:59 GMT+0000  

Add a 1650.

CPU - Ryzen 5 5600X | CPU Cooler - EVGA CLC 240mm AIO |  Motherboard - ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 | RAM - 16GB (2x8GB) Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 3600MHz CL17 | GPU - MSI RTX 3070 Ventus 3X OC | PSU -  EVGA 600 BQ | Storage - PNY CS3030 1TB NVMe SSD | Case - Cooler Master TD500 Mesh

 

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