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Missing performance? Is my system fried?

I feel like something on my system is holding me back. Some games I play like Call of duty WW2 I get way to massive drops of FPS IMO. I am talking alike going from 144 fps to 80 which seems like something is amiss. I understand some dips but that seems pretty harsh.

 

I had a electrical issue a while back that fried my M.2 SSD. My motherboard didn't appear to have any damage and loads up fine, but now I wonder if there is something causing other issues in my system.

 

I am thinking these things could be the cause; Old cpu, bad motherboard, bad psu, thermal issues etc

 

I want to update to the last ryzen and new gpus to use the newest techs anyways but worry that probably won't be that big of a upgrade besides my cpu.


Parts that could be at fault:

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PSU: CORSAIR  TX850 V2 850W (bought in 2012)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 (Its capped at 3000 mhz can't get it to max speed memory controller issues)

MOBO: Asus PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

CPU: Ryzen 1700x (userbenchmark says its above average might overclock)

CPU cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.86 CFM CPU Cooler (might be to old but not noticing any heat related shutdowns)

 

 

Full Specs:

 

Userbenchmark: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/34695128

 

Sidenote still haven't RMA'd my m.2 ssd. It got approved but haven't sent in yet, but lifetime warranty.

 

 

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What diagnostics have you done to determine that your machine somehow has electrical or components based failures that only manifest as frame drops despite frame drops being a very common issue across computers in general.

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14 minutes ago, kratox said:

XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB THICC III Ultra Video Card

This would be crazy at that price considering the lines recently released by both nvidia and AMD.

 

Its kind of confusiong what you want with your post.

 

Are you looking to spec a new system or troubleshoot your existing?

If you are at that point where you are ordering replacements, order it and be done with tsing slow performance on this one.

If you are trying to troubleshoot your existing system because it will be a while before you get a new one, then lets troubleshoot.

If thats the case, that you are trying to troubleshoot this system because it will be a while before you get the new one, i would say get us a hardware log with hwinfo and we can go from there.

Run the log while you play and then try to note how much time pasts from the point of frame drops to the point of you stopping the log so we can see what correlates in the log entries.

 

But again, troubleshooting the existing or spec a new system. One or the other. 🙂

Daily driver (looking to upgrade mobo and cpu spring of 2021)   --- The only time I sort by price from high to low is when I am shopping for CPU's and GPU's (looking for a cheap i7-7700k though)
Mobo: ASRock Z170 Extreme7+  CPU: i7-6700K @ 4.6MHz OC  Cooling: Corsair H115i Hydro  Memory: TridentZ 32GB @ 3600MHz  GPU: EVGA 2070 FTW3 ULTRA+ (OC'd 50/300)  
PSU: Corsair HX850i   Storage: 980 Pro 1TB, 950 PRO 512Mb, (2)ADATA SU800 1TB  Keyboard: Logitech G910  Mouse: Logitech G502   Headset: Logitech G930 UPS: APC Pro 1500 S

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GPU: MSI GTX 1650 4GT LP OC (passed through to Emby)  NIC: Intel I350-T4 4-port Gb (passed through to PFSense)  UPS: APC PRO 1000
Docker Containers: Emby and Home-Assistant-Core  Virtual machines: PFsense ( I love PFSense!)

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Mobo: Asus Prime H310M-E  CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F  Cooling: Deepcool Gammaxx 400  Memory: Teamgroup Elite Plus DDR4 16GB  Storage: Silicon Power 1TB NVMe M.2  
GPU: Asus GTX 1660 Super 6GB or EVGA 1070 FTW 8GB  PSU: Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+  UPS: APC XS 1300


As well as a number of other machines, a ton of parts, miles of cables, and who knows what else!
Private message me for quicker assistance. I also build and ship custom machines at a really fair price.

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10 minutes ago, cr8tor said:

This would be crazy at that price considering the lines recently released by both nvidia and AMD.

 

Its kind of confusiong what you want with your post.

 

Are you looking to spec a new system or troubleshoot your existing?

If you are at that point where you are ordering replacements, order it and be done with tsing slow performance on this one.

If you are trying to troubleshoot your existing system because it will be a while before you get a new one, then lets troubleshoot.

If thats the case, that you are trying to troubleshoot this system because it will be a while before you get the new one, i would say get us a hardware log with hwinfo and we can go from there.

Run the log while you play and then try to note how much time pasts from the point of frame drops to the point of you stopping the log so we can see what correlates in the log entries.

 

But again, troubleshooting the existing or spec a new system. One or the other. 🙂

I actually forgot I did previously download this to do exactly that when i was trying to figure out my massive fps drops.

I am eventually going to upgrade I just wanted to see if I could resolve my issues.

 

If its my PSU i need to know to just buy a new one, but as far as I know you can't only truly diagnose that with special hardware and I need to buy another one plug it in and do test that way.

 

  

4 minutes ago, emosun said:

What diagnostics have you done to determine that your machine somehow has electrical or components based failures that only manifest as frame drops despite frame drops being a very common issue across computers in general.

I do not have any thing besides software to determine electrical issues. I ha e ran certain things checking for electrical and temperature issues but besides some small details I don't remember anything being hugely a red flag. I have a voltmeter but do not feel safe trying to mess with a power supply like that.

 

I only suspect electrical issues because the time my m.2 SSD got fried was when I was doing DIY  spray in a non ventilated area but thought I had it contained. I thought it was non conductive but was wrong.This combined with the old radioshack power bar from 1990-early 2000, left me trying to figure out if it was my doing, just the old hardware, or both. 

 

Thing is I don't know if it did more damage than what I originally thought.

 

I feel like it could be a issue were the stability of power draw isn't stable. I can't exactly test this though because I don't have the parts for it. I would need to buy it.

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Run a log for us while you play the game.

 

Download HWiNFO here - https://www.hwinfo.com/

 

When you open HWiNFO, choose the option for Sensors only, and if prompted, hit continue. 

Also if prompted, do not download the beta version.

 

How to create a log:

Open HWiNFO and choose sensors only.

Then in the bottom right there is an icon that looks like a spreadsheet with a green plus on it.

Click that button to start logging, the green plus will switch to a red X to let you know its saving data. 

It will also ask you for a file name and where to save it. I save them to my desktop, name it whatever you want.

Go play your game for a bit (10 minutes or until it experiences the issue a few times), then exit out and click the spreadsheet again so the red X turns back to a green + to stop the logging.

You now have a log file to view and share.

 

How to view the log file:

You can view the log using the GenericLogViewer addon here https://www.hwinfo.com/add-ons/

Download, extract, run GenericLogViewer.exe, click the open file button in the top right and point it to the log file you made above.

Use the dropdown in the upper right to choose which category to view

Daily driver (looking to upgrade mobo and cpu spring of 2021)   --- The only time I sort by price from high to low is when I am shopping for CPU's and GPU's (looking for a cheap i7-7700k though)
Mobo: ASRock Z170 Extreme7+  CPU: i7-6700K @ 4.6MHz OC  Cooling: Corsair H115i Hydro  Memory: TridentZ 32GB @ 3600MHz  GPU: EVGA 2070 FTW3 ULTRA+ (OC'd 50/300)  
PSU: Corsair HX850i   Storage: 980 Pro 1TB, 950 PRO 512Mb, (2)ADATA SU800 1TB  Keyboard: Logitech G910  Mouse: Logitech G502   Headset: Logitech G930 UPS: APC Pro 1500 S

Unraid box providing network routing, home automation services, and media services ( I love unraid!)

USB Key: SanDisk 16GB Ultra Fit  Mobo: Intel DX79SR Extreme+  CPU: i7-3820  Memory: 16Gb Kingston HyperX Predator  Storage: (cache)480gb Micron SSD (1)8TB HDD (1) 4TB HDD  
GPU: MSI GTX 1650 4GT LP OC (passed through to Emby)  NIC: Intel I350-T4 4-port Gb (passed through to PFSense)  UPS: APC PRO 1000
Docker Containers: Emby and Home-Assistant-Core  Virtual machines: PFsense ( I love PFSense!)

Family machines
Mobo: Asus Prime H310M-E  CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F  Cooling: Deepcool Gammaxx 400  Memory: Teamgroup Elite Plus DDR4 16GB  Storage: Silicon Power 1TB NVMe M.2  
GPU: Asus GTX 1660 Super 6GB or EVGA 1070 FTW 8GB  PSU: Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+  UPS: APC XS 1300


As well as a number of other machines, a ton of parts, miles of cables, and who knows what else!
Private message me for quicker assistance. I also build and ship custom machines at a really fair price.

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4 hours ago, cr8tor said:

Run a log for us while you play the game.

 

Download HWiNFO here - https://www.hwinfo.com/

 

When you open HWiNFO, choose the option for Sensors only, and if prompted, hit continue. 

Also if prompted, do not download the beta version.

 

How to create a log:

Open HWiNFO and choose sensors only.

Then in the bottom right there is an icon that looks like a spreadsheet with a green plus on it.

Click that button to start logging, the green plus will switch to a red X to let you know its saving data. 

It will also ask you for a file name and where to save it. I save them to my desktop, name it whatever you want.

Go play your game for a bit (10 minutes or until it experiences the issue a few times), then exit out and click the spreadsheet again so the red X turns back to a green + to stop the logging.

You now have a log file to view and share.

 

How to view the log file:

You can view the log using the GenericLogViewer addon here https://www.hwinfo.com/add-ons/

Download, extract, run GenericLogViewer.exe, click the open file button in the top right and point it to the log file you made above.

Use the dropdown in the upper right to choose which category to view

I ran ww2 in the first half stressing my gpu at 400%.

 

Second half native resolution.

 

Both times I got similar performance in-game.

codww2.CSV

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Sorry if I am not making any sense but the issues I am dealing with could range from power supply, bad Motherboard, etc.

 

Like for one I can't hit 3200 mhz without system instability happening even with me using ryzen calculator settings.

It kept crashing my games like it was having issues with the memory controller.

 

My pc was shutting off do to heat, and when I tried to ramp up my cpu fans in BIOS, it was refusing to do so. I even tried it in the AI suite software.

 

Then stuff like this is happening randomly. Last time I had issues like this it was due to fault ram which was giving me wall hacks ingame.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415334040057413633/777969065921740821/unknown.png

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I believe its your PSU.

Your voltages are all lower than they should be, and in looking back you mentioned its 8 years old at this point.

Below are charts of your 12v, 3.3v, and 5v.

None are maintaining voltages where they should be which will do all sorts of fun stuff to the system.

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Daily driver (looking to upgrade mobo and cpu spring of 2021)   --- The only time I sort by price from high to low is when I am shopping for CPU's and GPU's (looking for a cheap i7-7700k though)
Mobo: ASRock Z170 Extreme7+  CPU: i7-6700K @ 4.6MHz OC  Cooling: Corsair H115i Hydro  Memory: TridentZ 32GB @ 3600MHz  GPU: EVGA 2070 FTW3 ULTRA+ (OC'd 50/300)  
PSU: Corsair HX850i   Storage: 980 Pro 1TB, 950 PRO 512Mb, (2)ADATA SU800 1TB  Keyboard: Logitech G910  Mouse: Logitech G502   Headset: Logitech G930 UPS: APC Pro 1500 S

Unraid box providing network routing, home automation services, and media services ( I love unraid!)

USB Key: SanDisk 16GB Ultra Fit  Mobo: Intel DX79SR Extreme+  CPU: i7-3820  Memory: 16Gb Kingston HyperX Predator  Storage: (cache)480gb Micron SSD (1)8TB HDD (1) 4TB HDD  
GPU: MSI GTX 1650 4GT LP OC (passed through to Emby)  NIC: Intel I350-T4 4-port Gb (passed through to PFSense)  UPS: APC PRO 1000
Docker Containers: Emby and Home-Assistant-Core  Virtual machines: PFsense ( I love PFSense!)

Family machines
Mobo: Asus Prime H310M-E  CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F  Cooling: Deepcool Gammaxx 400  Memory: Teamgroup Elite Plus DDR4 16GB  Storage: Silicon Power 1TB NVMe M.2  
GPU: Asus GTX 1660 Super 6GB or EVGA 1070 FTW 8GB  PSU: Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+  UPS: APC XS 1300


As well as a number of other machines, a ton of parts, miles of cables, and who knows what else!
Private message me for quicker assistance. I also build and ship custom machines at a really fair price.

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