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Budget (including currency): max £1,200

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: COD Warzone, Cyberpunk, ETS2

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): See below

 

Current build is old,

 

CPU - Intel I7-3770

GPU - 1060 6GB ASUS STRIX

RAM - DDR3, probably 1600Mhz

 

Current frames are 60-80 on warzone, 1080p all settings low

 

Play on a 27" 1440p 144Hz Samsung monitor (but I can't hit 144Hz currently - not even at 1080p!)

 

Planning on upgrading to the below:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6Ttp8J

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900F 2.8 GHz 10-Core Processor  (£409.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z490-P ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (£149.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£59.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 64 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB DUAL Video Card  (£500.00) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite Full Range 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Monitor: Samsung C27HG70 26.9" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £1118.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-28 16:12 GMT+0000

 

What are peoples thoughts? Anyone know what sort of frames I'd expect in warzone on the new build as comparison?

 

Sticking with Intel rather than AMD on CPU because a) I just prefer Intel and b) Stability

 

I've opted for i9 as it has 2 more cores than the i7 - I've prefer to get onto socket 1200 to future proof, rather than buy a better 1151 socket.

 

Opted for RTX 3070 as a cheaper alternative, but still good performance.

 

Everything which says purchase for £0.00 I already have, and will be using all the parts in the new build.

 

Thanks

Joe

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On 10/28/2020 at 4:14 PM, Joe Down said:

Sticking with Intel rather than AMD on CPU because a) I just prefer Intel and b) Stability

the ryzen 5 5600x will beat the 10900f in gaming for cheaper. there are no stability issues, but if you still prefer intel, go for it. but you really don't need a 10900 to play at 1440p. a 10600k would be enough.

also that 212 evo can't handle a 10900f.

 

my advice generally would be to spend less on cpu and more on gpu. a 10600k or a r5 5600x wiith a 3080 would make more sense than a 10900 with a 3070.

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Keep in mind that AMD is going to launch their gpus soon as well. Their offerings are very competitive, with the 6800xt being cheaper, using 20 watts less, and beating the 3080 in certain games.

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On 10/30/2020 at 12:44 PM, boggy77 said:

the ryzen 5 5600x will beat the 10900f in gaming for cheaper. there are no stability issues, but if you still prefer intel, go for it. but you really don't need a 10900 to play at 1440p. a 10600k would be enough.

also that 212 evo can't handle a 10900f.

 

my advice generally would be to spend less on cpu and more on gpu. a 10600k or a r5 5600x wiith a 3080 would make more sense than a 10900 with a 3070.

Would a 5600X still play ok on 1440p?

 

Given the release of the 6000 series for AMD, and the price range being quite generous, a 5600X (£280 ish) and 6800XT (£500 ish). Is significantly cheaper than the intel and nvidia equivalent at £910. Would you recommend upgrading either, or is that combo well balanced and sufficient?

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18 minutes ago, Joe Down said:

Would a 5600X still play ok on 1440p?

 

Given the release of the 6000 series for AMD, and the price range being quite generous, a 5600X (£280 ish) and 6800XT (£500 ish). Is significantly cheaper than the intel and nvidia equivalent at £910. Would you recommend upgrading either, or is that combo well balanced and sufficient?

i would definitely go for the 5600xt, as there have been plenty leaks already showing that it's a very strong cpu, better than current gen amd and intel cpus.

as for the new amd gpus, there haven't been independent benchmarks yet. they seem to say the 6800xt is on par with the 3080, and the 6800 a bit better than the 3070. 

you also need to pay attention to stock levels. as of now, it's nearly impossible to get a nvidia 3000 series card, as it's out of stock everywhere. 

also, if you care about ray tracing, the nvidia implementation is likely better.

in summary, my advice would be to go with the 5600xt and whatever gpu you can find in stock between 6800, 6800xt, 3070 and 3080. they will all handle 1440p very well.

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How does this look?

 

Ryzen 5 5600X, B550 motherboard, and the GPU not incl in there would be the 6800XT.

 

Do you think (a) 16Gb is enough memory for AMD, and (b) 500W PSU is enough?

 

Thanks

Joe

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor £301.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler Purchased For £0.00
Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard £156.98 @ Aria PC
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory £68.85 @ CCL Computers
Storage Samsung 830 Series 64 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For £0.00
Case BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For £0.00
Power Supply Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite Full Range 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply Purchased For £0.00
Optical Drive Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer Purchased For £0.00
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Purchased For £0.00
Monitor Samsung C27HG70 26.9" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor Purchased For £0.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £527.34
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-06 13:27 GMT+0000  

 

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Joe Down said:

How does this look?

 

Ryzen 5 5600X, B550 motherboard, and the GPU not incl in there would be the 6800XT.

 

Do you think (a) 16Gb is enough memory for AMD, and (b) 500W PSU is enough?

 

Thanks

Joe

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor £301.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler Purchased For £0.00
Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard £156.98 @ Aria PC
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory £68.85 @ CCL Computers
Storage Samsung 830 Series 64 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For £0.00
Case BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For £0.00
Power Supply Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite Full Range 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply Purchased For £0.00
Optical Drive Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer Purchased For £0.00
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Purchased For £0.00
Monitor Samsung C27HG70 26.9" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor Purchased For £0.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £527.34
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-06 13:27 GMT+0000  

 

 

 

 

Try to go for 3600Mhz ram. That should allow you to get the most out of your cpu. Also im not sure if 500W is enough for a 6800XT and 5600X

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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3 minutes ago, Downkey said:

Try to go for 3600Mhz ram. That should allow you to get the most out of your cpu. Also im not sure if 500W is enough for a 6800XT and 5600X

Thanks, I'll update. is 16Gb enough though?

 

I'll look at a 750W PSU.

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Thanks, I'll update. is 16Gb enough though?

 

I'll look at a 750W PSU.

yes 16GB should be perfectly fine for gaming. As long as it's around 3600mhz you should looking good. 750W should be enough aswell.

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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Thanks @Downkey and @boggy77

 

How does this now look? 6800XT to go in at c. £500.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£301.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£156.98 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£101.28 @ Newegg UK) 
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 64 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£99.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Monitor: Samsung C27HG70 26.9" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £659.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-06 14:35 GMT+0000

 

 

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1 minute ago, Downkey said:

Dang, I didn't know that kit was so expensive in the UK. This is CL16 3600mhz, but its $30 cheaper https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

Cheers will take a look.

 

Assuming brand doesn't matter, as long as I stick to 3600Mhz and CL 16? (Don't want higher than 16 I'm assuming for gaming).

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Cheers will take a look.

 

Assuming brand doesn't matter, as long as I stick to 3600Mhz and CL 16? (Don't want higher than 16 I'm assuming for gaming).

Well higher than CL16 will be fine, but its the most ideal situation for gaming. Also, brand name does matter, but Crucial is a very well known, trusted brand. You should be fine :)

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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9 minutes ago, Joe Down said:

Thanks @Downkey and @boggy77

 

How does this now look? 6800XT to go in at c. £500.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£301.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£156.98 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (£101.28 @ Newegg UK) 
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 64 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£99.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Monitor: Samsung C27HG70 26.9" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £659.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-06 14:35 GMT+0000

 

 

changed your ram for a cheaper kit, otherwise looks good

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor £301.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler Purchased For £0.00
Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard £156.98 @ Aria PC
Memory Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory £69.59 @ Amazon UK
Storage Samsung 830 Series 64 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For £0.00
Case BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For £0.00
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £99.98 @ CCL Computers
Optical Drive Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer Purchased For £0.00
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Purchased For £0.00
Monitor Samsung C27HG70 26.9" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor Purchased For £0.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £628.06
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-06 14:44 GMT+0000  

 

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6 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

changed your ram for a cheaper kit, otherwise looks good

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor £301.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler Purchased For £0.00
Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard £156.98 @ Aria PC
Memory Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory £69.59 @ Amazon UK
Storage Samsung 830 Series 64 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For £0.00
Case BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For £0.00
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £99.98 @ CCL Computers
Optical Drive Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer Purchased For £0.00
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Purchased For £0.00
Monitor Samsung C27HG70 26.9" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor Purchased For £0.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £628.06
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-06 14:44 GMT+0000  

 

Cheers both, I'll put that in. Also, how do you copy it so well from PCPartPicker?

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Also, the B550 has a warning about needing a BIOS update to run on a 5000 series. Although overclockers says it's ready to drop straight into the 500 series mobo, so assuming it's fine?

 

Not sure how I can update the bios without plugging in my Ryzen 5600X?

 

Last point then, do you think there will be much performance getting a Nvme drive to replace one of my samsung SSDs?

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3 minutes ago, Joe Down said:

Also, the B550 has a warning about needing a BIOS update to run on a 5000 series. Although overclockers says it's ready to drop straight into the 500 series mobo, so assuming it's fine?

 

Not sure how I can update the bios without plugging in my Ryzen 5600X?

 

Last point then, do you think there will be much performance getting a Nvme drive to replace one of my samsung SSDs?

it should come with the right bios. if not, that board has a bios flashback feature which means you can update the bios with a usb stick even without a cpu in.

 

as for nvme, it doesn't have a huge performance difference in gaming, but since one of your drives is 64gb and can barely fit anything on it, i'd recommend getting a new drive as well. maybe 500gb or 1tb.

7 minutes ago, Joe Down said:

Also, how do you copy it so well from PCPartPicker?

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just copy the highlighted link and paste it in here

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39 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

it should come with the right bios. if not, that board has a bios flashback feature which means you can update the bios with a usb stick even without a cpu in.

 

as for nvme, it doesn't have a huge performance difference in gaming, but since one of your drives is 64gb and can barely fit anything on it, i'd recommend getting a new drive as well. maybe 500gb or 1tb.

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just copy the highlighted link and paste it in here

Ahh right thanks,

 

Yeah my 64Gb drive is OS only.

 

250Gb for main games, and 1TB for the rest of the crap!

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