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I am looking for a cheap replacement, my R9 290X Lightning 4GB died. I have been looking for something a little better or close to it but still under 200$. I found two that look promising but I did a comparison between the two of them and the GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER WINDFORCE OC 4GB (169.99$) is better than GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 GAMING 8GB (184.99$). Am I not looking right or which one is actually better?

 

EDIT: Isn't 8GB of Vram better than 4GB?

 

GTX1650 Super

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1650-super-gv-n165swf2oc-4gd/p/N82E16814932231?Item=N82E16814932231&Description=1650 super&cm_re=1650_super-_-14-932-231-_-Product

 

RX 580

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-gv-rx580gaming-8gd-rev2-0/p/N82E16814932247?Item=N82E16814932247

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Do you need features that Nvidia offers? Do you want to use Shadowplay, Ansel, or any of the plethora of features that Nvidia offers? Then get the Nvidia card. If you want FreeSync, and don't necessarily care about CUDA or PhysX since none of your games can use them, then get AMD.

 

Also consider buying used: there are great deals to be had on eBay on used graphics cards; you might be able to find a great deal on a used GTX 1070 or 1080, or save money on a 1650 or 1660 compared to what you'd be spending buying new parts.

"Not breaking it or making it worse is key."

"Bad choices make good stories."

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those new prices are wack but theyre about equal. the 1650 super, gtx 1060, rx 580, and 5500xt are all in the same few percent in performance. each will do high settings 1080p at appreciable refresh rates, nothing fancy. more vram is nice but 4gb is fine for the textures youll see at 1080p high. 

 

e: gonna echo the used parts suggestion, a 1060/580 goes for ~130 used, a 1650 super ~150, a 1070 <200, etc. 

topics i need help on:

Spoiler

 

 

my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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7 minutes ago, Shadowkuo said:

EDIT: Isn't 8GB of Vram better than 4GB?

Like everything, it depends on what you're doing. If you're doing higher-resolution gaming (1440p, 1440p ultrawide, 4K, 5K, 6K, etc.), or you're analyzing giant datasets with GPU-acceleration in R or Python, then more VRAM helps a lot, since your GPU doesn't have to swap out data with the relatively slow system memory. If you're doing low-resolution gaming (1080p to 1440p), then you don't really need all of that VRAM. 

"Not breaking it or making it worse is key."

"Bad choices make good stories."

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2 minutes ago, kimsejin5 said:

Do you need features that Nvidia offers? Do you want to use Shadowplay, Ansel, or any of the plethora of features that Nvidia offers? Then get the Nvidia card. If you want FreeSync, and don't necessarily care about CUDA or PhysX since none of your games can use them, then get AMD.

 

Also consider buying used: there are great deals to be had on eBay on used graphics cards; you might be able to find a great deal on a used GTX 1070 or 1080, or save money on a 1650 or 1660 compared to what you'd be spending buying new parts.

I don't really need features, I mostly just play on a 1080i TV. 90% of the time I play Fallout 4 or Skyrim SE heavily modded. I would like a "new" compaired to "used" so if I have issues down the road its on me rather than being lied to. I just don't trust "used" when it comes to PC parts.

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20 minutes ago, Shadowkuo said:

I don't really need features, I mostly just play on a 1080i TV. 90% of the time I play Fallout 4 or Skyrim SE heavily modded. I would like a "new" compaired to "used" so if I have issues down the road its on me rather than being lied to. I just don't trust "used" when it comes to PC parts.

fair, i guess. the 1650 super is a great card and id go with whatever is cheapest between the 4 cards, favoring the 1650 super for its efficient power use (~100w under load i believe). the 1660 super and 5600xt are big jumps in performance though, and would up your framerates significantly. 5600xts have hit 220 bucks on sale a few times in the past week or two which would be a pretty good deal

topics i need help on:

Spoiler

 

 

my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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