3090 Animation/Simulation RIG

[jhzondervan]

Budget (including currency): 
€3500,- to €4000,-

Country:
Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:
3D animation, GPU Rendering, Fluid Simulations, Motion Design (In AE)

Parts (Exclusing the 3090): 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/2WPjf9

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (€704.22 @ Azerty) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€179.00 @ Azerty) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (€285.00 @ Azerty) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€483.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€179.00 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€129.85 @ Azerty) 
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case  (€143.95 @ Azerty) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS PX 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€159.90 @ Azerty) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€18.45 @ Azerty) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€18.45 @ Azerty) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€18.45 @ Azerty) 
Case Fan: *Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€18.45 @ Azerty) 
--------------------
Total: €2338.57
With €1550,- GPU ~€3888.57

Notes:
Oke so first some info.
I'm building a new PC for work. I'm an animator that works in Houdini, Cinema4D (With Octane renderer) and After effects primarily.
Because of this I'm going with the i9-10900K Since AE doesn't utelize a lot of cores and prefers speed > corecount.
Often the working files are stored on a local NAS, I know it's not the fastest but this way everyone can reach them, but since SATA storage aint very expensive I decided to add a 2nd drive to this system.
I choose the amount of RAM because of simulations in Houdini/AE and large scenes in C4D. This might be overkill though. I'm running 64GB at the moment, but still find myself running out on occasion (Not too often).
I've never done nay overclocking, but would like to try to do so at least a bit. (If you guys got good resources for teaching this that would be great)
I really dont care for RGB in this build. I rather have it clean then a party machine, haha.

A few questions I have right now:
Are there parts here that are overkill/lacking and will it work together. Also, where could I somehow save some money or gain a lot of extra performance without breaking the bank.

Thanks in advance!


Jim

[jaslion]

3 minutes ago, jhzondervan said:

Budget (including currency): 
€3500,- to €4000,-

Country:
Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:
3D animation, GPU Rendering, Fluid Simulations, Motion Design (In AE)

Parts (Exclusing the 3090): 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/2WPjf9

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (€704.22 @ Azerty) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€179.00 @ Azerty) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (€285.00 @ Azerty) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€483.85 @ Megekko) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€179.00 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€129.85 @ Azerty) 
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case  (€143.95 @ Azerty) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS PX 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€159.90 @ Azerty) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€18.45 @ Azerty) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€18.45 @ Azerty) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€18.45 @ Azerty) 
Case Fan: *Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€18.45 @ Azerty) 
--------------------
Total: €2338.57
With €1550,- GPU ~€3888.57

Notes:
Oke so first some info.
I'm building a new PC for work. I'm an animator that works in Houdini, Cinema4D (With Octane renderer) and After effects primarily.
Because of this I'm going with the i9-10900K Since AE doesn't utelize a lot of cores and prefers speed > corecount.
Often the working files are stored on a local NAS, I know it's not the fastest but this way everyone can reach them, but since SATA storage aint very expensive I decided to add a 2nd drive to this system.
I choose the amount of RAM because of simulations in Houdini/AE and large scenes in C4D. This might be overkill though. I'm running 64GB at the moment, but still find myself running out on occasion (Not too often).
I've never done nay overclocking, but would like to try to do so at least a bit. (If you guys got good resources for teaching this that would be great)
I really dont care for RGB in this build. I rather have it clean then a party machine, haha.

A few questions I have right now:
Are there parts here that are overkill/lacking and will it work together. Also, where could I somehow save some money or gain a lot of extra performance without breaking the bank.

Thanks in advance!


Jim

The watercooler is pretty overkill a dark rock 4 would do the trick and be cheaper.

Motherboard is also overkill.

If not going watercooling get a different case? The O11 is pretty empty without a costum loop (even a 360mm aio doesn't do much to fill it up) Since you also don't care about rgb the whole point of the O11 kinda goes away. Might as well just get a mesh box :P.

The arctic p12 fans are just a tiny bit worse than the noctua's but you can get 5 for the price of one noctua usually. (the value pack kit)

Pretty slow hdd aim for a 7200rpm one.

Since you are waiting for the 3090 anyways why not wait a little for ryzen 4000? Then you have the cores that all the other software will like a lot more and still have the single core speed for After effects.

Ram wise you could start with 64 and add later if you so wish. Totally up to you.

Ocing a 10900k is not a great idea. Basically locking it at 5ghz is about as far as you can push it but the powerdraw and heat output becomes insane. I do not recommend it.

[jhzondervan]

Thanks for this!
It's true that an aircool would do just fine, but since I was thinking of OC it I thought it would be usefull. Was thinking of a Noctua NH-D15 as a plan B.
In terms of the case. I really like how open it looks and doesnt seem to crammed in there, might put some light in it that's just white instead of RGB, but for sure a good recomendarion!
I didn't think of the hdd speed, TBH I never really understood the speed thing. Could anyone clearify this for me?
The RAM tip is also good, althouhg a bit scarry. I wanted to do the same thing with my PC now and bought another set of 64 GB but my PC wont recognize it. Did some research n it was about the speed or the number or something. So im worried I would run into the same issue.  
In terms of CPU, I wasnt aware that there were new Ryzens cumming up! Is there an ETA for the Ryzen 4000?

Thanks a bunch!

[jaslion]

Just now, jhzondervan said:

Is there an ETA for the Ryzen 4000?

You may also wanna take a look at this:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/After-Effects-CPU-performance-Intel-Core-10th-Gen-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3rd-Gen-1762/

 

Adobe did a lot of work on after effects making the 3950x basically identical in performance to a 10900k give or take 5% depending on the task. This would allow you to pick a 3950x if you need the system now and have a better cpu for the other tasks.

 

The ETA is fall 2020 so probably october when most sources point to the new amd gpu's coming out. Would not be too surprised if they launch ryzen too then. Might as well make a big event out of it. Either way the 3950x seems like the golden pick with potential to upgrade later if needed.

[jhzondervan]

That's some great info, thanks a bunch!

I'm not in a great rush, though would like to buy the system before 2021. (For tax. reasons, haha.)
This shouldnt be an issue then though! So I'll wait a bit and see what will happen.

BTW, why do you consider the Motherboard overkill?
The Motherboard is the one piece of hardwear I don't know a ton about, might need to read into it a bit more.

[SupaKomputa]

3950x would be the better choice for using multicores programs.

If you can wait for year end, go for the 4th gen.

Which will be 15% faster and maybe have more cores for the same price.

For SSD, wait for the new Sabrent or Samsung 980 which double the speed of the current offerings due to true PCIe 4.0 implementations.

And PCIe 4 only supported in AMD.

You may want to use double HDD for redundancy as loosing 6tb of data will hurt.